dFshadow All American 9507 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "Rep. Boehner Elected House Majority Leader
Rep. John Boehner of Ohio was elected House majority leader Thursday to replace indicted Rep. Tom DeLay.
Boehner defeated fellow Republican Rep. Roy Blunt of Missouri, 122-109, after lagging behind his rival in a first, inconclusive vote of GOP House members. The third contender — John Shadegg of Arizona — withdrew after finishing last in the initial round." |
slaughter and boehner are probably the two coolest names in congress2/2/2006 3:02:35 PM |
terpball All American 22489 Posts user info edit post |
THIS motherfucker has the GOOFIEST VOICE 2/2/2006 3:16:12 PM |
Wolfpack2K All American 7059 Posts user info edit post |
It is pronounced BANE-er. You have a sick mind 2/2/2006 3:19:11 PM |
spöokyjon ℵ 18617 Posts user info edit post |
He's kept it low key for a while, but I'm looking forward to seeing his performance later in the session. I expect we'll have a raging Boehner on our hands. 2/2/2006 3:27:19 PM |
dFshadow All American 9507 Posts user info edit post |
^^ really? haha i took german for a bit and i could have sworn an o with an umlaut is pronounced so that his name would be boner 2/2/2006 3:47:47 PM |
DirtyGreek All American 29309 Posts user info edit post |
http://njdc.typepad.com/njdcs_blog/2006/02/new_gop_leader_.html
Ten Things Every American Jew Should Know About John Boehner
1. For School Prayer and Amending the Constitution: Rep. Boehner supported a school prayer amendment to the United States Constitution in 1997 (H.J.Res. 78), 1999 (H.J.Res 66), and 2001 (H.J.Res. 52); voted to permit school prayer "during this time of struggle against the forces of international terrorism" (House Roll Call Vote 445, Nov. 15, 2001); and voted to only allow federal aid to schools that allow prayer (House Roll Call Vote 85, March 23, 1994).
2. For Forced Religion in Anti-Poverty Programs: Rep. Boehner voted to permit taxpayer-funded anti-poverty programs to require aid recipients to join in religious activities. (House Roll Call Votes 16 and 17, Feb. 4, 2004)
3. 100% Against a Woman's Right to Choose: Rep. Boehner received a "0%" pro-choice score from NARAL Pro-Choice America in 2005.
4. For Religious Employment Discrimination: Rep. Boehner voted to permit taxpayer-funded anti-poverty programs to engage in federally-funded employment discrimination. (House Roll Call Votes 15 and 17, Feb. 4, 2004)
5. Against the Rule of Law in Ten Commandments Case: Rep. Boehner voted to prevent the Justice Department from enforcing a court order to remove a 5,000 pound Ten Commandments monument from Alabama's state supreme court. (House Roll Call Vote 419, July 23, 2003)
6. Against Common-Sense Environmental Safeguards: Rep. Boehner voted for oil drilling in the Arctic National Wildlife Refuge (House Roll Call Vote 122, April 20, 2005); voted to gut the Endangered Species Act (House Roll Call Vote 506, September 29, 2005); and voted to weaken the National Environmental Policy Act (House Roll Call Vote 242, June 15, 2004).
7. For More Religious Employment Discrimination: Rep. Boehner voted to permit taxpayer-funded job training programs to engage in religious discrimination when hiring and firing employees with federal funds. (House Roll Call Vote 46, March 2, 2005)
8. Against Confronting Proselytizing at the Air Force Academy: Rep. Boehner voted against an amendment to squarely address religious coercion and proselytizing at the United States Air Force Academy in Colorado. The amendment criticized "coercive and abusive religious proselytizing" of cadets at the Academy while observing that "expression of personal religious faith is welcome" throughout the military. (House Roll Call Vote 283, June 20, 2005)
9. Led the Effort to Inject Religious Employment Discrimination into Head Start: Rep. Boehner added a controversial amendment in September to a previously bipartisan School Readiness Act which would "allow federally funded early-child-care providers to discriminate on religious grounds," according to The Forward. The Forward notes, "The federal government transfers about $6.7 billion annually to 19,000 Head Start providers in 50 states, three territories and the District of Columbia." Jewish groups opposed to the measure, according to The Forward, include the "Anti-Defamation League, the Union for Reform Judaism, the American Jewish Congress, the American Jewish Committee and the National Council of Jewish Women."
10. Pushed Ohio Schools to Embrace "Intelligent Design:" People For the American Way reports that Rep. Boehner and fellow Ohio Republican Rep. Steve Chabot wrote to the Ohio school board claiming that legislative language required that references to "Intelligent Design" be included in Ohio's science standards. In fact, such language was removed from the relevant education bill before it became final. 2/3/2006 10:25:22 AM |
spöokyjon ℵ 18617 Posts user info edit post |
Wow, what a piece of shit. 2/3/2006 1:12:18 PM |
Excoriator Suspended 10214 Posts user info edit post |
I stopped reading at this:
Quote : | "2. For Forced Religion in Anti-Poverty Programs: Rep. Boehner voted to permit taxpayer-funded anti-poverty programs to require aid recipients to join in religious activities. (House Roll Call Votes 16 and 17, Feb. 4, 2004)" |
He supported government funding for faith-based initiatives. You can't deny that your little list is deliberately worded to make him seem horrible.2/3/2006 1:41:25 PM |
DirtyGreek All American 29309 Posts user info edit post |
i merely reposted it irresponsibly without researching it. can't say whether it's done deliberately or not, but i'm sure it's biased. duh 2/3/2006 1:45:10 PM |
Excoriator Suspended 10214 Posts user info edit post |
oh come on. the issue in the bill that he supported was known as "faith-based initiatives"
going from that to the wording that I just quoted can not possibly be anything other than deliberate
[Edited on February 3, 2006 at 1:49 PM. Reason : s] 2/3/2006 1:48:59 PM |
Gamecat All American 17913 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "7. For More Religious Employment Discrimination: Rep. Boehner voted to permit taxpayer-funded job training programs to engage in religious discrimination when hiring and firing employees with federal funds. (House Roll Call Vote 46, March 2, 2005)" |
Sounds like a winner to me.2/3/2006 2:23:23 PM |
Excoriator Suspended 10214 Posts user info edit post |
Again, given the list's track-record the real situation is most likely a far cry from how they described it.
He probably just voted to grant some funding to churches that were doing outreach in some communities or something like that.... "OMFG HE'S FORCING ALL EMPLOYERS EVERYWHERE TO FIRE NON-CHRISTIANS" 2/3/2006 2:53:21 PM |
GrumpyGOP yovo yovo bonsoir 18191 Posts user info edit post |
I'm still trying to figure out why American Jews in particular would be especially horrified by that list, unless Judaism is no longer a religion. Or maybe it is a religion that holds caribou to be sacred and mandates frequent abortions while not believing in the Ten Commandments or Genesis. But if they made that change I didn't get the memo.
Dammit, Jews, I thought I signed up for your listserve! 2/3/2006 4:00:14 PM |
Mr. Joshua Swimfanfan 43948 Posts user info edit post |
I wish that it was Boner from Growing Pains.
At least I can dream. 2/3/2006 4:02:53 PM |
spöokyjon ℵ 18617 Posts user info edit post |
^^ Well, Judaism doesn't have the same regard regard for the ten commandments as Christianity, in general, does. First of all, the Hebrew word that we have translated to "commandment" is actually a word that means "saying", or "thing". But "The 10 Sayings" or "The 10 Things" wouldn't be that great of a movie title. The decalogue is a much better way of describing it in English. Also, they are numbered differently in the Torah.
Jewish law, by the way, has 613 commandments.
The first one's a pretty big one, though, right? It wouldn't be different? RIGHT?!?
Christianity: I am the Lord your God, and you shall have no other gods before me. (more or less)
Judaism: I am the Lord your God, who brought you out of the land of Egypt and out of the house of slavery. (once again, more or less)
Kind of different. 2/4/2006 4:33:56 PM |
abonorio All American 9344 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "haha i took german for a bit and i could have sworn an o with an umlaut is pronounced so that his name would be boner" |
I thought the o with an umault was pronounced "ah" so it would be pronounced like bonner or "BAH-ner"2/4/2006 6:41:22 PM |
GrumpyGOP yovo yovo bonsoir 18191 Posts user info edit post |
^^We usually call it the Decalogue at church, but here I thought it would have sounded pretentious.
And the Jewish version of the first one sounds awfully similar to one I hear a lot there, too. Not that it matters. The point stands that the Decalogue is featured in both religions and I still don't understand why its presence would especially offend Jews. 2/4/2006 7:20:23 PM |
dFshadow All American 9507 Posts user info edit post |
^^meh i dunno
you're probably right. it's been a while] 2/4/2006 7:20:27 PM |
spöokyjon ℵ 18617 Posts user info edit post |
Also, why does the first set of ten commandments get preference?
Quote : | "The LORD said to Moses, "Cut two stone tablets like the former, that I may write on them the commandments which were on the former tablets that you broke.
........
Observe thou that which I command thee this day: behold, I drive out before thee the Amorite, and the Canaanite, and the Hittite, and the Per'izzite, and the Hivite, and the Jeb'usite.
Take heed to thyself, lest thou make a covenant with the inhabitants of the land whither thou goest, lest it be for a snare in the midst of thee:
but ye shall destroy their altars, break their images, and cut down their groves:
for thou shalt worship no other god: for the LORD, whose name is Jealous, is a jealous God.
Lest thou make a covenant with the inhabitants of the land, and they go a whoring after their gods, and do sacrifice unto their gods, and one call thee, and thou eat of his sacrifice;
and thou take of their daughters unto thy sons, and their daughters go a whoring after their gods, and make thy sons go a whoring after their gods.
Thou shalt make thee no molten gods.
The feast of unleavened bread shalt thou keep. Seven days thou shalt eat unleavened bread, as I commanded thee, in the time of the month Abib: for in the month Abib thou camest out from Egypt.
All that openeth the matrix is mine; and every firstling among thy cattle, whether ox or sheep, that is male.
But the firstling of an ass thou shalt redeem with a lamb: and if thou redeem him not, then shalt thou break his neck. All the firstborn of thy sons thou shalt redeem. And none shall appear before me empty.
Six days thou shalt work, but on the seventh day thou shalt rest: in earing time and in harvest thou shalt rest.
And thou shalt observe the feast of weeks, of the firstfruits of wheat harvest, and the feast of ingathering at the year's end.
Thrice in the year shall all your men children appear before the Lord GOD, the God of Israel.
For I will cast out the nations before thee, and enlarge thy borders: neither shall any man desire thy land, when thou shalt go up to appear before the LORD thy God thrice in the year.
Thou shalt not offer the blood of my sacrifice with leaven; neither shall the sacrifice of the feast of the passover be left unto the morning.
The first of the firstfruits of thy land thou shalt bring unto the house of the LORD thy God. Thou shalt not seethe a kid in his mother's milk." |
And then Moses said "Jigga WHAT? That's completely different!" And then God was like "It's my hot body I do what I want."
But you are right, there is no real reason it should particularly offend Jews specifically because they are Jews. It's just that I'd rather talk about the bible than about some dude whose name sounds like boner.2/4/2006 7:38:38 PM |
Protostar All American 3495 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "He probably just voted to grant some funding to churches that were doing outreach in some communities or something like that" |
The government should not fund ANY church of ANY religion. The church and state are separate entities and should stay that way.2/4/2006 8:09:02 PM |
abonorio All American 9344 Posts user info edit post |
Yes, fuck people who have a common religion who want to help people! Fuck those people who are doing what the government isn't doing in the community. Fuck them for feeding people. Getting a grant from the government DOES NOT ENDORSE A RELIGION!
I really hate it when people blow the establishment clause out of context. 2/5/2006 2:08:26 AM |
spaced guy All American 7834 Posts user info edit post |
yeah, that list sounded very slanted.
but i liked his performance on Meet the Press this morning...he was like "yeah, so i got a few free trips to scotland, so what?" then on Jack Abramoff, first he said "i may have met him," then "he doesn't like me," then "i don't know him".....and i said "but he knows you well enough to know that he doesn't like you? hmmm." 2/5/2006 11:27:01 AM |
billyboy All American 3174 Posts user info edit post |
Yeah, I think a few of the Republicans in the House shit themselves when he was talking today. 2/5/2006 11:41:33 PM |
Gamecat All American 17913 Posts user info edit post |
I missed it. Fill me in plz. 2/5/2006 11:44:25 PM |
billyboy All American 3174 Posts user info edit post |
Here are a couple of points in the interview:
Quote : | "MR. RUSSERT: When you say you have your doubts, many point to your own behavior. From 535 members of Congress, John Boehner ranked number 10 according to PoliticalMoneyLine, which did analysis of this. Over the last five years they say John Boehner received trips which would equal $157,000, privately funded. And they point out where you went, which is—and here’s, here’s a list,. Congressmen Boehner: White Sulpher Springs, West Virginia, where the Green Briar Resort is, eight times; Boca Raton, Florida, six times; Scottsdale, Arizona, four times; Monterey/Pebble Beach, California twice; Edinburgh, Scotland, home of St. Andrew’s Golf Course, twice. Foreign travel: Rome, Venice, Brussels, Paris, Barcelona.
To the American people looking at that, they’re saying those aren’t exactly the global hot spots in terms of conflict. But they are places that you’d want to go and relax or play golf.
REP. BOEHNER: People want—people invite me to give speeches. And, and as you know Tim, you know, I’ve got 11 brothers and sisters, my dad owned a bar. What you see is what you get. And I’ve got a very open relationship with lobbyists in town, with my colleagues, with the press, and with my constituents. And, and as a result, you know, people invite me to go give speeches, and I go give them. And you also learn a lot about these industries. It’s easy to point out where I’ve gone around the world, but when you start to look at the people that I’ve worked with—you know, going to, to Scotland with the Transatlantic Policy Network. Now, understanding the relationship between members of the European Union and members of Congress, and trying to build closer ties, this is something that’s very beneficial for members of Congress. And I believe that—that—that privately funded travel ought to be pre-cleared. There ought to be a good public purpose in members going on a trip, and if there isn’t, then they shouldn’t go.
MR. RUSSERT: Many voters will say, Congressman, rather than going to a plush resort, why don’t you just meet these guys in your office?
REP. BOEHNER: These industry meetings occur in nice places. And—and that’s where the—that’s where the events are, that’s where the speeches are. And if you get invited, you got to decide whether you can go or not go, or whether it’s worthwhile." |
Quote : | "MR. RUSSERT:REP. BOEHNER: No. Those tribes gave money to my political action committee. It had nothing to do with Jack Abramoff. I didn’t know Jack Abramoff. I may have met him once. I had no relationship to him, and the money that I raised from those tribes had nothing to do with him. I worked with those Indian tribes and others on education issues, on labor issues, and he had nothing to do with it, so why would I—why would I give the money back?
MR. RUSSERT: But had you ever received a nickel from those tribes before they were represented by Jack Abramoff?
REP. BOEHNER: I have no idea.
MR. RUSSERT: The answer’s no.
REP. BOEHNER: I—well, no. Other people represented those tribes as well. Understand, Jack Abramoff, knowing that I...
MR. RUSSERT: But they didn’t give you—they didn’t give you money until they were represented by Abramoff." |
For the entire transcript, go to http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/11160479/
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