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TGD
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...unless it comes down to promoting one of their own. so spare me the sanctimony and stfukkthxbye

http://www.cnn.com/2006/POLITICS/02/14/senate.hackett.ap/index.html

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"Iraq vet Hackett drops out of Ohio Senate race
Tuesday, February 14, 2006; Posted: 10:53 a.m. EST (15:53 GMT)


NEW YORK (AP) -- Iraq war veteran Paul Hackett, a Bush administration critic who had been recruited by top Democrats to run for U.S. Senate, said Tuesday he was dropping his campaign and declared his political career over.

Hackett said he was pressured by party leaders to drop out of the Senate primary and run for the House instead.

National Democratic leaders, especially Sen. Charles Schumer, chairman of the Senate campaign committee, had told Hackett's top fundraisers to stop sending money, Hackett told The Associated Press on Tuesday.

"My donor base and host base on both coasts was contacted by elected officials and asked to stop giving," Hackett said. "The original promise to me from Schumer was that I would have no financial concerns. It went from that to Senator Schumer actually working against my ability to raise money."

Schumer, who represents New York, was not immediately available for comment.

"I made this decision reluctantly, only after repeated requests from party leaders, as well as behind-the-scenes machinations, that were intended to hurt my campaign," Hackett said in a statement announcing the end of his campaign.

The deadline for candidates to file for the May 2 primary is Thursday.

Hackett, a Cincinnati attorney and Marine Reservist, captured national attention last summer by blasting Bush's war policies, raising huge sums on the Internet and capturing 48 percent of the vote in one of the country's most conservative House districts. Republican Jean Schmidt won the special election in a tight race.

Hackett had declared his candidacy for Republican Mike DeWine's Senate seat after it appeared Democratic Rep. Sherrod Brown would not run.

A few days afterward, Brown announced that he would run, and national Democrats privately began urging Hackett to step aside for the more seasoned politician.

Democrats also considered Schmidt vulnerable in a rematch against Hackett. She was widely criticized for saying in a House floor speech about a troop pullout recommendation by Rep. John Murtha, a decorated Vietnam veteran: "Cowards cut and run, Marines never do."

But Hackett said he had already told other Democrats he would not enter the congressional race.

"I said it. I meant it. I stand by it," Hackett said Tuesday. "At the end of the day, my word is my bond and I will take it to my grave."

"Thus ends my 11-month political career," he said.

Ohio Democratic Party Chairman Chris Redfern said Hackett still has the popular support to have an impact.

"It is my hope that whatever disappointment he might feel about these circumstances, that he will seize a different moment in the future," Redfern said in a news release.

Copyright 2006 The Associated Press. All rights reserved.This material may not be published, broadcast, rewritten, or redistributed."

2/14/2006 8:02:58 PM

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How fucking stupid.

Your thread implies that they dropped him because he was a vet, which clearly, at least from the article you posted, isn't the case.

2/14/2006 8:25:49 PM

chembob
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I think what he's trying to say is they love it when a vet is against the war, but they don't have enough balls to back such a guy.

2/14/2006 8:39:26 PM

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tough shag

2/14/2006 8:41:51 PM

TGD
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"spöokyjon: Your thread implies that they dropped him because he was a vet"

ok out of all the interpretations to come up with for this thread, howtf did you come up with that one?

[Edited on February 14, 2006 at 8:46 PM. Reason : ---]

2/14/2006 8:46:28 PM

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"Hackett, a Cincinnati attorney and Marine Reservist, captured national attention last summer by blasting Bush's war policies"


I'm surprised he didn't get into some trouble. Maybe reservists are granted a little more leniency?

2/14/2006 9:07:33 PM

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Calling the fundraisers and encouraging them to pull support is low, but it's nothing unique to the Democratic party--and you know that. Another case of "t3h l3ft's shit stinks, but t3h r1ght's smells like roses" from TGD, but I'll play anyway.

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"ok out of all the interpretationsIraq War Veterans running as Democrats in '06 to come up with for this thread, howtf did you come up with that oneHackett?"


There are 9 other Iraq Veterans running for Congress as Democrats. Could you explain your thread title in that context?

An avowed neocon telling anybody to "spare the sanctimony" is like the pope telling someone not to preach.

[Edited on February 14, 2006 at 9:20 PM. Reason : ...]

2/14/2006 9:14:52 PM

TGD
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someone sounds a little sensitive. remember: ::breathe::



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"Gamecat: ok out of all the interpretations Iraq War Veterans running as Democrats in '06 to come up with for this thread, howtf did you come up with that one Hackett?"

I'd guess from you and the rest of teh L3ft wetting yourselves after his loss to Schmidt in that special election, and Cindy Sheehan-esque threads declaring "OMF Hackett is gonna kick y'alls ass!"

2/14/2006 9:40:10 PM

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oh look, another thread from this guy aimed at pissing off the left

youre like a more eloquent excoriator

2/14/2006 10:44:02 PM

spöokyjon

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"ok out of all the interpretations to come up with for this thread, howtf did you come up with that one?"


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"teh L3ft *loves* iraq war veterans...unless it comes down to promoting one of their own. so spare me the sanctimony and stfukkthxbye"

2/14/2006 10:49:28 PM

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ok out of all the interpretations to come up with for this thread, howtf did you come up with that one?"

its either what you were implying or you suck at english

2/14/2006 11:30:44 PM

Gamecat
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Hackett's clearly a victim here, but it's only incidental that he's a victim of t3h l3ft. He's more a victim of political miscalculation than anything else; something the right should have learned plenty about with Harriet Miers. But you didn't see me making threads about how "teh R1ght *loves* women...unless it comes down to promoting one of their own. so spare me the sanctimony and stfukkthxbye" because it would've been stupid.

The Democrats blew this one big time, though. There's no doubt about that. Brown's late decision was too Perot-ish to start a campaign with, and I doubt he's going to get anywhere because of it.

Hackett should have ignored the party leaders on principle. If I'd been managing his campaign, I would've called the DNC on its bluff and would have told him to continue his campaign despite their pressure like he said he'd do in the first place. I doubt they would've been able to defeat him in the primaries even after encouraging his donor base to stop giving.

As you've mentioned in those threads you despise so much, it was primarily his politics that brought him so close to winning the special House election; not his support from the big whig donors of the party. I highly doubt they would've been able to successfully pry his support from smaller individual contributions through MoveOn, Air America, and similar groups who were largely responsible for his rise to prominence in the first place; besides, he'd already achieved good recognition and had a better chance of beating DeWine anyway.

I think what's being lost in this story of old school politics is that in the end, Hackett was little different than his counterparts in a fundamental way. Sure, he may have said "At the end of the day, my word is my bond and I will take it to my grave," but he also said in no uncertain terms that no matter what kind of pressure the party put on him, he was going to run to the end.

I'm disappointed by the Democratic party (which isn't a surprise) for giving everyone another shining example of their political incompetence, and with Hackett for not sticking by his original convictions.

2/15/2006 3:21:31 AM

TGD
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"JonHGuth: its either what you were implying or you suck at english"

God bless you ppl, only in America could you and spöokyjon illustrate your lack of linguistic talent and then blame it on my failure at English

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"PinkandBlack: oh look, another thread from this guy aimed at pissing off the left

youre like a more eloquent excoriator"

And....is TSB worth more than that to you?

2/15/2006 7:36:05 AM

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"you suck at english"

2/15/2006 8:14:04 AM

TGD
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"teh L3ft (e.g. in general, but including teh L3ft on TWW with their pryderi-esque threads on 'OMF Hackett will kick yurrr ass!!1') *loves* iraq war veterans (e.g. Paul Hackett)...unless it comes down to promoting one of their own (e.g. career politician Sherrod Brown). so spare me the sanctimony and stfukkthxbye "

[yes], clearly the criticism that I suck at English means so much coming from someone who apparently can't understand a basic sentence. even after reading the article.

you've been spending too much time with MathFreak.

(although I suspect even MathFreak would have been able to figure that one out)

2/15/2006 9:13:08 AM

JonHGuth
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keep backpeddling, we will pretend like we dont notice

2/15/2006 10:40:11 AM

TGD
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"TGD: [yes], clearly the criticism that I suck at English means so much coming from someone who apparently can't understand a basic sentence. even after reading the article."

2/15/2006 10:52:25 AM

JonHGuth
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"keep backpeddling, we will pretend like we dont notice"

2/15/2006 10:53:25 AM

Woodfoot
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i'm gonna have to, shockingly, throw my hat in with the spook and jon crew

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"teh L3ft *loves* iraq war veterans...
...unless it comes down to promoting one of their own."


reads to me like you're suggesting that the left is incapable of supporting iraq war veterans, when it has already been shown they have several other horses in teh races

2/15/2006 10:59:29 AM

TGD
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well dammit fuck all 3 of you then

it wasn't "shown other Iraq vets were in teh races" until Gamecat's post an hour after spook's stupidity. my mistake for thinking "one of their own" -- especially given the topic, TWW history, and the actual contents of the fucking story -- would be construed as the obvious career-politician-who-talks-a-lot-about-loving-vets -but-never-actually-served -but-that-only-matters-when-its-a-Republican Sherrod Brown

[Edited on February 15, 2006 at 12:33 PM. Reason : ---]

2/15/2006 12:31:03 PM

boonedocks
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It's getting harder and harder to come up with good threads for your side, isn't it?



[Edited on February 15, 2006 at 12:48 PM. Reason : .]

2/15/2006 12:48:27 PM

TGD
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don't know, it's not like I'd actually consider this trying. to quote one of your own, "Of course you don't care when your worldview is getting pumped into every house through every TV every day of the week"...

2/16/2006 12:51:56 AM

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2/16/2006 6:39:17 PM

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