more specifically Thomas Bangalter

As you may know, Thomas Bangalter is 1/2 of Daft Punk, and no offense to Guy, but Bangalter happens to be most of the production brains behind it as shown by his other releases under different names such as Thomas Falcon, Thomas Bangalter, Together, and Stardust.

I know these are all samples, but there is a difference between the way bangalter used a sample to make an original track and the way these artists used the sample to make the exact same song bangalter made and simply sold it to a bigger label than Roule.

Eric Prydz - Call On Me Thomas Falcon - Valerie
Thomas Falke - High Again (High On Emotion) Thomas Falcon - High Again
Freeloaders Feat. The Real Thing - So Much Love To Give Together - So Much Love To Give

not so blatant:
Busta Rhymes - Touch It Daft Punk - Technologic (really just on the style of the hook)

I made this on another message board after hearing Thomas Falke's new rip off of my favorite Bangalter song, but I felt that it may be appreciated here as well.

2/16/2006 10:03:15 PM

Call on me...worst song ever.

2/16/2006 10:10:14 PM

can you really rip off your own songs?

[Edited on February 16, 2006 at 10:38 PM. Reason : e]

2/16/2006 10:38:42 PM

i did immediately think daft punk when i heard that busta song (as im sure many ppl did), but i like busta so who cares.

it isnt like digitized voice hasnt been used before in a song, though it is a bit too close.

2/16/2006 10:48:25 PM

Valerie isn't Thomas Falcon, it's Steve Winwood.

2/16/2006 11:16:05 PM

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"Call on me...worst song ever."

It was great before it was played to death. I rip out the B-sides on it all the time.

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"can you really rip off your own songs?"

I'll assume you are talking about thomas falke, which I knew wasn't Bangalter and Queme simply because Bangalter wouldn't release any of his non-daft releases on a label other than Roule. Turns out it's some german producer who worked with Tube and Berger on some stuff.

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"it isnt like digitized voice hasnt been used before in a song, though it is a bit too close."

I thought it was more simlar in the words it used "blank it, blank it, blank it; blank it" like in Technologic. But I have no problem with the busta song as it is different enough and it's for a different genre/audience.

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"Valerie isn't Thomas Falcon, it's Steve Winwood."

The winwood song is the one he sampled, but I assure you Thomas Falcon released Valerie as well, I own it. Some guy came into the record store and dumped off a whole load of Bangalter stuff. I got it, Music Sounds Better With You, Spinal Scratch, Outrage, High Again, some Romanthony, etc. $2.50 each.

2/16/2006 11:38:59 PM

yeah, I wasn't saying that Thomas Falcon hadn't done a version of Valerie, just that it was originally performed by Steve Winwood. It's just funny to me when people get all stoked when they hear the chorus of Valerie because they think it's Eric Prydz, then they get all confused and pissed off when it isn't as familiar as they'd thought. Nothing beats hearing someone say, "Who the hell is doing a crappy cover of 'Call on Me'?"

2/16/2006 11:56:05 PM

You guys should check out the podcast, "Ze Mixx" if you like Daft Punk.

2/16/2006 11:57:34 PM

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"I wasn't saying that Thomas Falcon hadn't done a version of Valerie, just that it was originally performed by Steve Winwood."

Oh, I knew that, it cites all the samples on the sleeve.

2/17/2006 12:10:35 AM

might as well.

2/17/2006 12:19:56 AM

that Busta song IS tight tho

2/17/2006 2:40:12 AM

has daft punk complained about this? otherwise, busta paid them.

2/17/2006 3:28:41 AM

i'd complain

that busta song sucks bad

2/17/2006 11:45:00 AM

holy crap

i accidently loaded the busta song

jesus

2/20/2006 11:49:44 AM

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"can you really rip off your own songs?"

John Fogerty went to court over it.

2/20/2006 3:32:11 PM

if the samples clear and they pay for them, nobody is gonna complain or sue cause you've already arranged the details

2/20/2006 3:33:21 PM

you dont think the Busta song is good? the bass is amazing in it. good "club song" i think.

[Edited on February 20, 2006 at 5:12 PM. Reason : .]

2/20/2006 5:11:35 PM

everybody knows daft punk rips off of video games, see: Sonic the Hedgehog, and Star Fox, haha

2/21/2006 6:43:18 PM

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"if the samples clear and they pay for them, nobody is gonna complain or sue cause you've already arranged the details"

It is kind of messed up to sample a song and produce the same song someone else did sampling and not give the original producer of the same song any credit. The original sample of "High Agian"was from "Chris De Burgh - High On Emotion", but Thomas Falcon did something completely different with a small vocal sample, however Thomas Falke pretty much did the exact same thing as Thomas Falcon, he simply put it on a bigger label and had it marketed better.

2/21/2006 10:30:57 PM

Peaches has a remake of Technologic also. I don't enjoy it. Its like she's trying to use a "sexy" girl voice to resell it.

2/22/2006 1:15:12 AM

peaches

2/22/2006 1:17:38 AM

The peaches no logic remix of of technologic is on the single, I like it, it's not the best remix on the single (that goes to Vitalic), but I still like it. It's kind of like her Knock Out Mix of Le Tigre - TKO (which kicks ass), but not quite as good.

2/22/2006 1:35:52 PM