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foreverclear
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^

also i've been holding off on buying a new tv waiting for 1080p to make a stronger presence. I think i'm just gonna go buy a 720p lcd instead.

Thoughts on 1080p?

2/17/2006 3:43:01 PM

V0LC0M
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save the money

go with 720

2/17/2006 3:43:53 PM

foreverclear
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On top of that, i've heard that for screens smaller than 40"... 1080p won't be a noticeable difference, especially when compared to the step from 480i to 720p

2/17/2006 3:45:59 PM

moron
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^ People who say that don't know what they are talking about.

Sure, some people won't be able to see the difference, but a lot of people will. If you're the kind of person to notice something like picture quality, then you'll see the difference.

2/17/2006 4:08:30 PM

Quinn
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find me 10 channels that broadcast 1080p in raleigh in the next month and ill buy your tv

hell, find me 20 that broadcast 720p




I think you should wait for the video source before you buy the display

I mean that makes sense

That being said

Go waste your money on whatever you think will be popular in 2 years

2/17/2006 5:51:13 PM

smheath
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^ Both 1080p and 720p monitors are capable of displaying 1080i, 720p, 480p, and 480i.

2/17/2006 10:20:33 PM

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i don't get you backwards ass poor people.

If 1080p can do everything a 720p screen can do and more. why buy 720p now and 1080p 6-12 months from now? save yourself the money and just get whats going to last without having to upgrade.

2/17/2006 10:30:59 PM

smoothcrim
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a 1080p native monitor will look like garbage displaying less than 1080p*


*not including crts

2/17/2006 10:32:01 PM

smheath
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Well, then, a 1080p monitor would always look like garbage, because no one is broadcasting in 1080p.

2/17/2006 10:42:22 PM

wolvesdin
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Well... if i wasn't so damn poor... i might buy a $500 hd-dvd player... or a $1000 bluray player after the HDCP fiasco ends.

Better yet, since the PS3 will support dual 1080p displays, i should break down and buy 2 right. And while we're at it, name one display that accepts 1080p signals (through HDMI) that i can buy in person in the triangle area.

The sony xbr sxrd displays have a pretty decent upconvert to 1080p so most things look pretty decent.

2/17/2006 11:11:30 PM

cyrion
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im perfectly happy with my cheap-ass 1080i tv

2/18/2006 10:08:50 AM

Quinn
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"Both 1080p and 720p monitors are capable of displaying 1080i, 720p, 480p, and 480i."



Explain to me how a LCD or DLP based TV displays 1080i, oh yeah, it deinterlaces then scales it, and in doing so usually makes it look like shit.

Look kid, i like your attempt at cute commentary and i some what appreciate the effort, but in all seriousness don’t fuck with me in tech talk, and not about tvs.


There is a reason high end video users buy scalers upwards of 800$ to drive their projectors , and that reason is simply that the 4$ IC you got at national or maxim just doesnt cut it at >40" .

If he is buying this for a smaller LCD, then you dont need 1080p anyways.



[Edited on February 18, 2006 at 12:51 PM. Reason : .]

2/18/2006 12:46:48 PM

teh_toch
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"Look kid, i like your attempt at cute commentary and i some what appreciate the effort, but in all seriousness don’t fuck with me in tech talk, and not about tvs."


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2/18/2006 4:43:04 PM

Pi Master
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There's an advantage to not having money: you don't have to worry about even being tempted to waste money on being on the cutting edge.

2/18/2006 4:51:24 PM

cyrion
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plus it encourages you to buy a sexy but heavy crt.

2/18/2006 5:11:26 PM

Quinn
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Well, CRT is my favorite anyways. I dont normally move or lift a TV i watch, so weight doesnt matter.

2/18/2006 7:13:17 PM

Pi Master
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I do

I say Barnabas, there's a baby in this refuse bin!

2/18/2006 9:27:12 PM

wolvesdin
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i'm actually saving up for one of those sed displays

http://www.engadget.com/2006/01/08/sed-up-close-and-personal/

2/19/2006 12:05:31 AM

RhoIsWar1096
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you don't need an "HD DVD player" - just buy a dvd player with progressive scan and component outs - $30 at any major retailer should do it.

2/19/2006 8:51:16 AM

cyrion
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i am a 138lbs man quinn. i may not move a tv much, but it is a factor. my new tv is 150 which aint so bad for me and someone else, but is approaching the border for me. i didnt buy a decently priced sony 36" cuz it weighed 200+ lbs heh. but yeah they do look sexy and last forever.

2/19/2006 9:04:25 AM

Shaggy
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http://esupport.sony.com/perl/model-home.pl?mdl=KV40XBR800

it weighs like a bazillion pounds.

but it was cheap and will probably never move from its spot ever.

2/19/2006 9:30:00 AM

qntmfred
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pwnt
http://arstechnica.com/tech-policy/news/2010/09/claimed-hdcp-master-key-leak-could-be-fatal-to-drm-scheme.ars

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"High-bandwidth Digital Content Protection (HDCP), the copy protection system used to prevent the making of perfect digital copies of audio and video data sent over DisplayPort, HDMI, and DVI interfaces, may have been blown out of the water if a post made to pastebin.com yesterday is what it claims to be. The post purports to contain the HDCP "master key," a 40×40 matrix of 56-bit numbers, which is used by the HDCP licensing company, Digital Content Protection (DCP), to generate the private keys used in all HDCP devices."

9/14/2010 4:53:27 PM

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Nifty

9/14/2010 6:30:17 PM

wwwebsurfer
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I'm rockin' a 720p plasma; love it's color depth and clarity.

If I was in the market right now I'd get around 32-36" plasma with the apps. Might consider a Vizio for their cooler apps, but still a fan of panasonic plasma.

And HDCP sucks balls; both as a content producer and consumer.

9/14/2010 8:08:54 PM

Nighthawk
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^I will swear by Panasonic Plasma. Love my 42". Although I will say my 23" Samsung LCD gives it a run for the money on my computer.

9/14/2010 9:55:35 PM

Noen
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^too bad they all have a fatal flaw in the backlight that causes them to go permanently to about 50% brightness after a year of usage.

9/14/2010 11:41:50 PM

kiljadn
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^Samsungs do? Or Pannys?



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"don’t fuck with me in tech talk,"




lol Quinn tuff ITT

9/15/2010 12:42:52 AM

El Nachó
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noen's talking about the panasonic plasmas.

http://www.engadget.com/2010/02/04/panasonic-cops-to-rising-black-levels-in-its-plasma-hdtvs-but-q/

I didn't read much about this when that article was released (which was like a week after my dad bought a G1, so I was mildly interested at the time) but I would have thought they could have fixed the issue with a firmware update or something, but it looks like it's more complicated than that. I assume (?) that newer models don't have this issue. but I don't know for sure.

9/15/2010 12:54:16 AM

Noen
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It's been prevalent in EVERY plasma they make since 2008.

It's not fixed in the 2010 models either.

I was choosing between Samsung and Panasonic, and the 100 page threads about this on AVSForum are what ultimately steered me to Samsung. Panasonic plasmas are the best out there ( Pioneer is out of the plasma game), but I am pretty damn impressed with Samsung.

They (Samsung) have been really damn good about regular firmware updates to fix and improve their sets. I havent' needed anything, pretty much in love with my 7000 series plasma.

[Edited on September 15, 2010 at 1:42 AM. Reason : .]

9/15/2010 1:40:29 AM

El Nachó
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"It's not fixed in the 2010 models either."


That really baffles me. I guess the percentage of people that would care about this issue are so small that they can continue to make them the same way and not lose enough to make it worth fixing.

9/15/2010 2:12:09 AM

Stein
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"Panasonic plasmas are the best out there ( Pioneer is out of the plasma game)"


Pioneer Plasmas: Unnoticeably better black levels with a better chance for burn in all for the low, low price of 3x as much money!

9/15/2010 8:45:20 AM

wwwebsurfer
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The panasonic problems come only to the people who are running the thing at 100% brightness in the first place. Mine sits around 65% and I've never seen this varying backlight issue.

These are probably the people who like to see green and red at 2000% saturation instead of a calibrated setting.

9/15/2010 2:18:29 PM

Quinn
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we still don't have any 1080p channels. It's been four years. Outside of sports there isn't much point I suppose .


my favorite tv is JUSTIN tv.

[Edited on September 17, 2010 at 8:03 AM. Reason : the compression artifacts means they care]

9/17/2010 8:01:37 AM

Stein
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If a 720p channel is in 3D, it's 2160p.

9/17/2010 8:37:52 AM

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