http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2006/02/27/opinion/polls/main1350874.shtml

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"Poll: Bush Ratings At All-Time Low NEW YORK, Feb. 27, 2006 (CBS/AP) (CBS) The latest CBS News poll finds President Bush's approval rating has fallen to an all-time low of 34 percent, while pessimism about the Iraq war has risen to a new high. Americans are also overwhelmingly opposed to the Bush-backed deal giving a Dubai-owned company operational control over six major U.S. ports. Seven in 10 Americans, including 58 percent of Republicans, say they're opposed to the agreement. CBS News senior White House correspondent Jim Axelrod reports that now it turns out the Coast Guard had concerns about the ports deal, a disclosure that is no doubt troubling to a president who assured Americans there was no security risk from the deal. The troubling results for the Bush administration come amid reminders about the devastating impact of Hurricane Katrina and negative assessments of how the government and the president have handled it for six months. In a separate poll, two out of three Americans said they do not think President Bush has responded adequately to the needs of Katrina victims. Only 32 percent approve of the way President Bush is responding to those needs, a drop of 12 points from last September’s poll, taken just two weeks after the storm made landfall. Mr. Bush's overall job rating has fallen to 34 percent, down from 42 percent last month. Fifty-nine percent disapprove of the job the president is doing. For the first time in this poll, most Americans say the president does not care much about people like themselves. Fifty-one percent now think he doesn't care, compared to 47 percent last fall. Just 30 percent approve of how Mr. Bush is handling the Iraq war, another all-time low. By two to one, the poll finds Americans think U.S. efforts to bring stability to Iraq are going badly – the worst assessment yet of progress in Iraq. Even on fighting terrorism, which has long been a strong suit for Mr. Bush, his ratings dropped lower than ever. Half of Americans say they disapprove of how he's handling the war on terror, while 43 percent approve. In a bright spot for the administration, most Americans appeared to have heard enough about Vice President Dick Cheney's hunting accident. More then three in four said it was understandable that the accident had occurred and two-thirds said the media had spent too much time covering the story. Still, the incident appears to have made the public's already negative view of Cheney a more so. Just 18 percent said they had a favorable view of the vice president, down from 23 percent in January. Americans were evenly split on whether or not Cheney's explanation of why there was a delay in reporting the accident was satisfactory. ©MMVI, CBS Broadcasting Inc. All Rights Reserved."

2/27/2006 10:36:24 PM

i'd bet dollar to dollar he won't win again in 08

2/27/2006 10:39:31 PM

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"30 percent approve of how Mr. Bush is handling the Iraq war,"

Ive never met ONE of these people.

2/27/2006 10:44:47 PM

I'd imagine many of them don't approve of the handling of Iraq, but don't want to publically criticize the president when it comes to waging war.

Because then they'd be with the terrorists.

2/27/2006 11:06:51 PM

^yea, true.

2/27/2006 11:07:19 PM

"If you're not with us, you're against us."

2/27/2006 11:50:41 PM

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"Ive never met ONE of these people."

I know one. His name's Dad.

2/28/2006 12:10:14 AM

I know one. His name is TGD.

Uhm...does CBS's poll have a MOE? I'm not seeing one.

In any case, it's not that much of an outlier. Gallup's still got him under 40%, and most polls have him hovering around that number. Talk about lame duck syndrome (or buyer's remorse, take your pick).

2/28/2006 12:15:08 AM

Massive Straight-line Alert.......

I just can't understand why all the "polls are going down on Bush"

2/28/2006 1:02:10 AM

He never recovered from Katrina and there hasn't been a terrorist attack in the U.S.

2/28/2006 1:03:38 AM

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"Ive never met ONE of these people."

youve obviously not stepped foot outside of the "city" lately

hahah when i told my uncle i voted for kerry he called me a faggot.

2/28/2006 2:48:35 AM

my dad is a conservative from Boston so he doesnt call me a faggot....just a fucker.

2/28/2006 9:54:16 AM

ahahah my sexuality was defnitely questioned, like to the point where i felt like "holy shit this guy really thinks im queer"

it was amazing

2/28/2006 10:27:34 AM

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"Gamecat: Uhm...does CBS's poll have a MOE? I'm not seeing one."

You have to load the PDF version for that info:

http://www.cbsnews.com/htdocs/pdf/poll_bush_022706.pdf

Republicans: 289
Democrats: 381
Independents: 348
Margin of Error: ±3%

2/28/2006 10:27:53 AM

so if they turned that number around, it would be like 45-50 % if the percentages were in favor of republicans...

Thats BS...

I approve of what is going on, but dissapprove of the BS media feeding shit to the public.

2/28/2006 10:54:57 AM

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"jackleg All American 134900 Posts user info edit post ahahah my sexuality was defnitely questioned, like to the point where i felt like "holy shit this guy really thinks im queer" it was amazing"

This is what bothers me most about voters, on both sides. That is, how they will vote on a very narrow set of issues and are totally close-minded about what else they are getting. Of course, most people aren't exactly beacons of intelligence.

2/28/2006 11:22:21 AM

I used to be a big Bush supporter. But with this current issue of GIVING AWAY OUR PORTS I've fucking had it with Bush.

I don't know what the fuck he's doing, but its pretty clear he doesn't give a shit about the well being of this country.

2/28/2006 1:49:36 PM

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"so if they turned that number around, it would be like 45-50 % if the percentages were in favor of republicans..."

If they made it 50/50 by party every president would always have a 45-55% approval rating. Duh.

They randomly sampled people, and apparently a significant amount of people have bailed from the GOP.

2/28/2006 2:07:51 PM

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"TGD: Republicans: 289 Democrats: 381 Independents: 348 Margin of Error: ±3%"

I see the first three figures in the .pdf, just like I did the first time. What I still don't see is that fourth. Where's the MOE listed?

[Edited on February 28, 2006 at 4:37 PM. Reason : ...]

2/28/2006 4:37:40 PM

^
it's the fine print at the bottom of page 9

2/28/2006 4:58:38 PM

Ah ha! Thanks.

BTW - Drudge is openly wondering why so many Dems were polled. IIRC, don't most polls include more Dems due to their portion of the public?

2/28/2006 5:03:05 PM

^
yeah, but there's almost never a 10%+ Republican-Democrat gap

according to the Pew Research Center, party identification is only about 3%ish in Democrat favor (30 Rep to 33 Dem to 37 Ind/other)

2/28/2006 5:12:43 PM

Ah. Then I was rightly suspicious of a poll that buried its MOE. Still, Gallup--who certainly didn't err that way--has him at 39%. Not a hell of a lot better.

2/28/2006 5:27:27 PM

Upon further review, the poll does reveal something pretty telling even though it was overweighted with Democrats. His approval ratings with Republicans tumbled a full 11 percent. Hard to blame that on the sample...

3/1/2006 1:29:31 AM

well if CBS says it, it must be true... afterall they have no history of making up false stories or exagerations to get Bush...

Anyway, by now you'd think people would have learned that Bush is
not going to change just because the media is having another hissy-fit. If Bush was somebody that was pushed around by the current political hubris then we wouldn't ever have gone to Iraq. Where is the political gain in that? I don't see it, the only reason I can understand him standing by his decision is that
he honestly believes it is the correct course of action to insure the long-term security of the US. In short, Bush doesn't care about Polls because he's not running again.

3/1/2006 3:14:42 AM

It's the media that has a case of hubris?

o rly?

3/1/2006 3:33:19 AM

its funny to see TGD post, I mean ppl in chit chat are stupid and they know it

but TGD really thinks he knows what he is talking about, I feel for ya man

3/1/2006 7:40:03 AM

haha ouch, you hurt my feelings there kid

3/1/2006 8:16:09 AM

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"Ive never met ONE of these people."

Lets see....you go to one of the most republican schools in the country. I'd say its a good bet that you have met someone. Ever heard of the silent majority. The ones that you say something to and they nod like they agree but really they are thinking leave me alone.

3/1/2006 8:39:05 AM

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"you go to one of the most republican schools in the country."

is that true? are there some statistics to show that? or are you just making it up?

3/1/2006 10:30:07 AM

its in the south

duh it must be republican

3/1/2006 10:33:29 AM

i no right

just look at unc.

[Edited on March 1, 2006 at 10:36 AM. Reason : d]

3/1/2006 10:35:07 AM

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"Anyway, by now you'd think people would have learned that Bush is not going to change just because the media is having another hissy-fit."

Harriet Miers
Hurricane Katrina
NSA Domestic Spying Scandal
Social Security Reform
UAE Port Transfer
...

mathman needs to share whatever the fuck he's smoking...

And minus about 30 points for another tired reference to the CBS memogate scandal. This is a poll. They didn't make up the responses to the fucking questions, or the proportions of respondents who answered a certain way, regardless of what the mediocre radio talk show blowhards are telling you...

[Edited on March 1, 2006 at 2:26 PM. Reason : ...]

3/1/2006 2:25:01 PM

I ment state, not country.

3/1/2006 3:44:48 PM

Numbers and wording changed slightly by me,

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" 1.Harriet Miers 2.Hurricane Katrina 3.NSA Terrorist communication monitoring "scandal" 4.Social Security Reform 5.UAE Port Transfer "

I don't think his choices on any of the above modulo possibly 2. had much to do directly with
the assorted media blitzes on these topics,

1. that was completely because of the outcry of crazy fundies like me

2. perhaps, but Bush has not exactly been fiscally conservative on other disasters either. Even the
ones that the media hasn't been as vocal about.

3. did He stop or even admit it was wrong? Did I miss something? I thought that they
were continuing to monitor such communications because in their view it falls under the
catagory of national security and as such they need no FISA guidance necessarily.

4. he never stopped,granted he admitted defeat ( by his foes in congress), and I seem to recall
him indicating it was not a dead issue in the State of the Union address.

5. I'm not completely up to date, but I don't recall him really changin position on this either. Didn't
congress take some action or something?

I've not had the pleasure of listening to Rush or Sean Hannity for a while so I'm not sure what relevance that has to this...

And Rathergate has everything to do with this poll ( again not that I really care about polls, really
I just care about arguing about polls...) why shouldn't I question the validity of the source? Not only were they wrong, they defended the fraud and fought hard before apologizing for the lies. These are the same people in charge of "unbiased" data collection. Once Fox news does a Poll with 34% I'll believe it. They have no interest in slandering the president.

3/1/2006 6:38:53 PM

Ratings of a 2nd term, who gives a shit?

3/1/2006 9:43:31 PM

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"Lets see....you go to one of the most republican schools in the country. I'd say its a good bet that you have met someone. Ever heard of the silent majority. The ones that you say something to and they nod like they agree but really they are thinking leave me alone. "

exactly. you just stated you had to be partisan to say that bush is handling the war well. talk to a real person, off the record, and they would never say the war is going well.

3/1/2006 10:19:23 PM

It's about time for another terror alert, isn't it?

3/2/2006 12:57:10 AM

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"It's about time for another terror alert, isn't it?"

i didnt know it was a presidential election year

3/2/2006 1:33:01 AM

^Well, he has to help his friends once in a while.

[Edited on March 2, 2006 at 2:18 PM. Reason : ]

3/2/2006 2:17:31 PM

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"I've not had the pleasure of listening to Rush or Sean Hannity for a while so I'm not sure what relevance that has to this... "

if you get all your news and opinions form pundits, you should just go ahead and put a bullet in your haed now

3/2/2006 3:48:53 PM

He's still got my vote!

3/2/2006 4:55:35 PM

what fucking vote

3/2/2006 5:00:04 PM

the one I gave him to hold a second term.

3/2/2006 5:01:31 PM

hmm, well. learn some english k?

3/2/2006 5:03:02 PM

If he got it before, then he still has it fucktard.

3/2/2006 5:07:35 PM

leave the soapbox

3/2/2006 5:08:36 PM

Maybe I'll stay...depends on what else the incompetents are bitching about.

3/2/2006 5:11:08 PM

SET EVERYONE STRAIGHT

3/2/2006 5:14:58 PM

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"the one I gave him to hold a second term."

Wow! You're part of the Electoral College?

3/2/2006 6:03:35 PM