http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/2006/baseball/mlb/03/06/news.excerpt/index.html?cnn=yes

New book coming out that details Bonds' steroid use accroding to the BALCO investigation notes and testimony. Authored the SF Chronicle journalists who broke the story.

http://gameofshadows.com/

We shall see.

3/7/2006 1:16:25 PM

where are all the naive fools who swore Bonds was innocent now?

3/7/2006 1:49:41 PM

There is a difference between swearing someone is innocent and saying you cannot justly assume someone is guilty with nothing more than circumstantial evidence.

3/7/2006 1:51:27 PM

^^ You misunderstood those peoples points from the beginning so it's no surprise you still do.

I was NOT in favor of penalizing him (i.e.- * record / no HOF) unless we had concrete, real evidence he used DURING his big years. If what this says is true then I'm right there with you...

[Edited on March 7, 2006 at 1:52 PM. Reason : f]

3/7/2006 1:51:54 PM

*

3/7/2006 1:53:29 PM

hahahaha

so theres still people that want to see hard factual evidence...oh man if you saw him shooting steroids into his biceps at home plate on national tv you'd find some way to justify it

3/7/2006 1:57:37 PM

Rome was talking about this on his show today. Pretty blunt stuff. Bonds = garbage

3/7/2006 1:59:25 PM

This is America. You can't punish people based on hunches and thoughts. You're missing the point.

It isn't about whether or not we think or know he used. We all KNOW he did. You simply can't punish him without proof, just like in any other case..

You're not a moron so I'm sure you're just being difficult because this concept isn't hard to grasp.

3/7/2006 2:00:10 PM

Quote :

"BALCO tracked Bonds' usage with doping calendars and folders -- detailing drugs, quantities, intervals and Bonds' testosterone levels -- that wound up in the hands of federal agents upon their Sept. 3, 2003 raid of the Burlingame, Calif., business."

from SI.

we know it

he did it during the year he set the home run record

to hell with bonds

*

3/7/2006 2:05:13 PM

he's screwed - he'll be waiting as long as pete rose for the HOF - i bet he retires almost immediately

3/7/2006 2:05:43 PM

i hope he actually keeps playing until he breaks the record...just to cause chaos.

3/7/2006 2:06:30 PM

^YEAH FROM ALL THE STUFF I HAVE HEARD TODAY IT DOESN'T LOOK GOOD FOR BARROID!!

3/7/2006 2:06:55 PM

Barroid - good one. Rafael Palmeroid is my favorite. I really, really hope he does not break Hank's record. Aaron is one of the great sports figures in history (IMO) and I'd hate for a shit canister like Bonds to replace him at the top of the greatest record in sports (again IMO).

3/7/2006 2:10:13 PM

All he really cared about was passing whitey anyways.

3/7/2006 2:16:38 PM

NyM410 I would completely agree with you if this were a criminal trial or something...about innocent until proven guilty...but its not...everybody knows he juiced for awhile...I'm far from the only person who had seen all I needed to about Bonds years ago to know he was roided

3/7/2006 2:22:28 PM

God, I almost can't wait for when Bonds will be eligible for the Hall of Fame. All the talk and ranting and articles will be even better than what goes on now.

3/7/2006 2:22:29 PM

His HOF chances are gone....long live Hank aaron and the babe.

By the way it was quoted from federal documents that he testified before a grand jury to using the substances, but he said he didn't know what they were......RIIIIIIIGHT Good thing the immunity didn't cover perjury.

3/7/2006 3:58:08 PM

73*
70*

3/7/2006 4:02:42 PM

66*?

3/7/2006 4:22:59 PM

704*****************

3/7/2006 4:23:51 PM

james bond used steroids??

3/7/2006 4:24:45 PM

I still do not believe this book is going to change anything. It still will not provide concrete proof that he indeed used the steroids. I believe he used them, and I believe a lot of the players were using them a few years ago, but you have to have concrete proof to add an '*' to the record books and/or bar him from the HoF.

It's sad really, even before he got "buff" he was an all-star and put up pretty good numbers. He wouldn't have broken any of the records but he'd still have been HoF worthy and a long-time all-star.

3/7/2006 6:05:47 PM

Barry Bonds' biggest crime is that in a time when everyone did steroids, he happened to be an asshole.

3/7/2006 6:23:15 PM

^^

Quote :

"In secret grand jury testimony obtained by the authors, Bonds testified that he did not know what the substances were that Anderson gave him and he put in his body, saying at one point, "It's like, 'Whatever, dude.'" Bonds testified under a grant of immunity, though he was told the immunity did not extend to perjury."

I don't understand why you don't think there is concrete proof he used roids

3/7/2006 6:39:42 PM

this book wont change anything. everybody already knew before this book that he was on roids and this book still does not give an officially cited source that baseball could use against him. yeah, grand jury testimony is pretty official, but not the way its coming out in the public.

bonds would have made the hof anyways, and as far as the record books, no one is gonna forget anytime soon that he used steriods. asterick or not, his records will always be questioned. i think that alone cheapens his achievements.

3/7/2006 7:27:16 PM

You'd think that a sport full of drug addicts would be more exciting...

3/7/2006 8:00:05 PM

Quote :

"you have to have concrete proof to add an '*' to the record books and/or bar him from the HoF"

why do you have to have concrete proof to add him to the HoF? you dont think plenty of people wont vote for him because of all the controversy?

3/7/2006 8:06:32 PM

You could knock me over with a feather. Surely, this is unfounded hate speech against the greatest player of all time!

3/7/2006 8:22:06 PM

^^^ hahahah excellent point

3/7/2006 11:54:54 PM

I said you'd have to have proof to BAR him from the HoF, meaning, not allow him to be included in any vote.

And you're right, the media has definitely made everyone aware of the idea that he uses steroids, so I don't expect many of the voters to vote in his favor, but at least he'd be allowed to be voted in.

3/8/2006 12:48:59 AM

Quote :

"Bud Selig is expected to announce next week that he is beginning a formal investigation into Barry Bonds' steroid use, opening the door to possible sanctions against the embattled slugger. Sources said he was still deliberating on whether to appoint an outside investigator or have Major League Baseball officials run the probe. -- New York Daily News "

3/16/2006 12:42:40 PM

in other news, bud selig is doing an investigation to whether or not the sky is blue

3/16/2006 12:46:44 PM

Quote :

"In secret grand jury testimony obtained by the authors,"

it always shocks me that somehow the media manages to find everything .... even secret documents of our nations highest court :x

is it so much to ask to have just a few no crooked people in power?

3/16/2006 1:14:23 PM

Quote :

"Barry Bonds' biggest crime is that in a time when everyone did steroids, he happened to be an asshole"

couldn't have said it better myself

3/16/2006 1:20:54 PM