http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20060318/ap_on_hi_te/apple_windows_hack;_ylt=AkH_8W0v81Clib8TxpnzpngjtBAF;_ylu=X3oDMTA5aHJvMDdwBHNlYwN5bmNhdA--

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"SAN JOSE, Calif. - As expected, hackers have found a way to run Microsoft Corp.'s Windows XP operating system on new Macintosh computers, winning an ad hoc contest and a $13,854 cash prize to boot. ADVERTISEMENT Or, make that dual-boot — the way to make a computer switch between two operating systems. Some users of Apple Computer Inc.'s Macs have clamored for such a solution since Apple said it would be switching its computers to Intel Corp.'s chips, putting the feat within reach. Their reasons vary, but a common denominator is that they would like to run Windows-based programs on their Macs. Colin Nederkoorn, a shipping broker in Houston, says he just wants to streamline his work: instead of using his Apple PowerBook computer for some programs and a Windows PC for other tasks, he'd like to just use one machine. That's why Nederkoorn, 23, started a contest back in January to goad programmers, soliciting donations for a cash prize for anyone who came up with a hack. Late Thursday, the prize went to two San Francisco Bay Area software developers, Jesus Lopez, 33, of Alameda, and Eric Wasserman, 41, of Berkeley. Lopez said he did most of the technical work — spending late nights and weekends on the challenge — while Wasserman, a devoted Mac user, introduced him to the contest in February and supported him in the process. Lopez, who never even owned a Mac computer until he had to get one to assume the challenge, said in an interview Friday his previous tinkering projects were all personal. "But this is something that I feel a lot of people could use, and that the tech community will benefit from this," he said. On Friday, Nederkoorn's Web site was busy with collaboration between developers working to improve upon Lopez' work. Nederkoorn said the so-called "Windows on Mac" project is open-sourced, meaning anyone can build on it. The hack, which is downloadable from the Web site, still takes some tedious labor and technical know-how, but Nederkoorn predicts an easier version for mainstream computer users might be available within a year. "It should be as easy as two clicks at some stage," he said. When Apple introduced its first Intel-based computer in January, company officials said Apple has no intention of selling or supporting Windows on its machines, though it has not done anything to preclude people from doing it themselves. "If there are people who love our hardware but are forced to put up with a Windows world, then that's OK," senior vice president Phil Schiller said at the time."

personally i think this is awesome, because i have been praying for a version of windows on apple because apple sucks compared to xp

3/18/2006 10:21:14 PM

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"personally i think this is awesome, because i have been praying for a version of windows on apple because apple sucks compared to xp"

either this is sarcasm or it's the dumbest post i've read



[Edited on March 18, 2006 at 10:29 PM. Reason : missing a word]

3/18/2006 10:28:20 PM

atleast i'm not the sorriest excuse for a troll

3/18/2006 10:32:16 PM

i forgot how i trolled you exactly, since i've only responded to you once.

3/18/2006 10:53:06 PM

I agree with Cheeze

3/18/2006 10:55:15 PM

I agree with Cheeze

3/18/2006 11:02:57 PM

I agree with Cheeze

3/18/2006 11:05:34 PM

I agree with Cheeze

3/18/2006 11:18:07 PM

http://www.brentroad.com/message_topic.aspx?topic=394624


still on the same page even.

3/18/2006 11:22:16 PM

you got to admit though

its like the best of both worlds

it can be on an apple computer but its windows xp

3/18/2006 11:41:52 PM

so whats good about apple, i thought it was its software.
and the computers look cooler too

3/18/2006 11:54:03 PM

yeah thats what i'm saying

you got the cool design of apple computers and the great xp software

best of both worlds

3/18/2006 11:54:53 PM

ahahaha

wtf

did kbbrown3 let drunknloaded use his account or something

[Edited on March 19, 2006 at 12:29 AM. Reason : ]

3/19/2006 12:29:14 AM

Apple is okay, but there's no point in dual-booting it with Windows.

Linux + Apple or Windows + Apple seems more practical

3/19/2006 12:54:54 AM

the only acceptable dual-boot is OS/2 + BeOS


[Edited on March 19, 2006 at 1:23 AM. Reason : .]

3/19/2006 1:23:15 AM

apple is not an operating system

3/19/2006 2:10:47 AM

it took 15 posts for someone to state this

also,

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"Apple is okay, but there's no point in dual-booting it with Windows. Linux + Apple or Windows + Apple seems more practical"

...?

[Edited on March 19, 2006 at 11:20 AM. Reason : too early]

3/19/2006 11:19:24 AM

^ i had a wtf moment with that quote too.

[Edited on March 19, 2006 at 11:22 AM. Reason : i came up with one explanation, but it was a dumb one.]

3/19/2006 11:21:46 AM

Dual-booting is great, but I'm hoping for some sort of good virtualization. Maybe VirtualPC will suddenly become awesome without the hardware emulation layer slowing it down, but I'd like to see something even more transparent.

The reasoning behind wanting to run Windows on Apple hardware:
I like OS X. I like all the apps on OS X. I can't run Unigraphics or Catia on OS X. Gotta have Windows to do that. And I don't want to buy a whole new machine just to run two or three specific apps.
I'm not sure why I'd want to run Linux at all.

3/19/2006 11:57:48 AM

at this point youd be better off running XP native and OSX through the virtual machine

3/19/2006 12:07:08 PM

you could run unigraphics and catia on unix

3/19/2006 1:27:11 PM

gsx server

3/19/2006 1:37:01 PM

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"great xp software"

wow that's just priceless

3/20/2006 4:22:39 PM

can someone please figure out how to make osx run on a windows machine

3/20/2006 6:02:08 PM

People already hacked OSX to run on Beige Boxes, but unless you have supported hardware, it is pretty pointless. You are better off just buying a new mac and being done with it. OSX on non apple hardware sucks pretty bad.

3/20/2006 7:24:42 PM

3/22/2006 10:32:34 AM

^pretty much true, except if you were the two guys that got the $13K

3/22/2006 10:39:08 AM

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"You are better off just buying a new mac and being done with it."

no i wouldn't, cause the point of running os x on my machine is getting os x but not having to pay for the overpriced apple stuff

3/22/2006 10:41:20 AM

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"Apple is okay, but there's no point in dual-booting it with Windows. Linux + Apple or Windows + Apple seems more practical"

Oops, mistyped that.

I meant to say "Linux + Apple or Linux + Windows"

3/22/2006 10:44:47 AM

Explain how either of those combinations are more practical. OS X is already *nix based. Why would you need two?

3/22/2006 10:47:30 AM

Reports out today that the MacBook Pro runs photoshop in XP faster than other comparable XP-based notebooks.

http://www.macworld.co.uk/news/index.cfm?NewsID=14171

3/22/2006 6:29:43 PM

my favorite operating system is microsoft!!

3/22/2006 6:36:21 PM

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"I agree with Cheeze"

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"I agree with Cheeze"

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"I agree with Cheeze"

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"I agree with Cheeze"

Not engineers, I assume?

3/23/2006 1:17:26 PM

haha you wish. try again.

3/23/2006 2:27:00 PM

A *nix based system is more "engineer friendly" than any MS OS.

3/23/2006 2:41:30 PM

I wouldn't mind being able to dual-boot XP on my Mac, although I'm just as happy running it in a virtual PC since I don't do games or anything that needs direct hardware support... If it could be faster on the Intel platforms, I'd even be happier.

3/23/2006 2:52:30 PM

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"Not engineers, I assume?"

what is that supposed to mean

3/23/2006 5:07:25 PM

just a Windows fanboy talking out of his ass, I wouldn't pay him any attention

3/23/2006 7:02:14 PM

how-to: http://www.macworld.com/2006/03/firstlooks/xpmini/index.php?lsrc=mwtoprss
via digg

3/24/2006 10:12:15 AM

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"haha you wish. try again."

Design students? CHASS, maybe?

3/24/2006 5:55:34 PM

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"TGD: haha you wish. try again."

3/24/2006 9:11:02 PM

Please explain how *nix is more friendly to anyone outside of MAYBE ECE/CSC?

3/25/2006 12:29:25 PM