I call it "WTF was that..." b/w my parents and the housekeeper (on wednesdays)... they are loud. I try to guess what made which noise.. it makes being awake not quite as bad.

3/24/2006 10:02:02 AM

oh you live with your parents? that is adorable!

3/24/2006 10:04:01 AM

yep, saves about $500 every month on rent.

3/24/2006 10:04:58 AM

I want to save money on rent too...

3/24/2006 10:33:33 AM

I hear there's a Gecko that can save you 15% on car insurance... but I haven't really looked into it... anyways... I'm enjoying the $6k that I'm saving a year 'til I find a girl who isn't a sociopathic kleptomaniac. Then when my grandmother kicks the bucket, I'll have a house overlooking the golf course (we are in the process of buying it.)

[Edited on March 24, 2006 at 10:37 AM. Reason : sp]

3/24/2006 10:37:19 AM

Nationwide doesn't have any geckos that I know about.

I play "How many times can I hit the snooze button?" I make it to about three before I get bored of the game and just turn the alarm off.

3/24/2006 10:41:23 AM

Living with the 'rents is worth it for a bit. Was able to save up about $15,000.

3/24/2006 10:51:51 AM

^yup, make all the fun you want, b/c all the money I make goes straight to the bank... they don't need a house this big awyway, and no one else is using the space.

It can be difficult to ask a girl "home" though...

"Hi mom, hi dad, this is Kristan... we're gonna go upstairs now and I'm gonna bang the living shit out of her ass."

The only downside I've found.

[Edited on March 24, 2006 at 10:57 AM. Reason : edit]

3/24/2006 10:55:13 AM

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"^yup, make all the fun you want"

Since you asked for it...

Grow the fuck up. Good lord. I couldn't imagine living with either of my parents at this point in my life. "Oh well, I'm saving money." Oh well, you're being a mooch too. Sounds like that's going to continue when "your grandmother dies." Man I hope I never have a kid with your attitude.

3/24/2006 11:06:12 AM

^good luck with those payments there, Spud. Why grow the fuck up, when I can lay the fuck down at night and save 6k... when you figure out the logic on that one get back to me.

3/24/2006 12:30:14 PM

The afformentioned lack of doing whatever the fuck I want

with whoever the fuck I want

would make me not give a shit about 6 grand. Thats chump change boss man.

3/24/2006 12:32:13 PM

^^You asked for it.

Personally, my logic would be that I would just be ashamed to still be mooching off my parents. My mom supported me as best she could for 18 years, the fuck if I'm going to be a lazy ass and put off "being in the real world" to be a burden on her for another couple of years. And if I was "forced" to still move back in with my mom, I wouldn't be bragging about it. I also wouldn't throw in how much nicer it will be when my grandma finally "kicks the bucket."

I'm going to make plenty of money when I get out of grad school anyways. So money I'm throwing away on rent right now isn't really figuring into my "big picture". And the whole bringing a girl back to the house that my parents still live in would actually be reason enough for me.

[Edited on March 24, 2006 at 12:37 PM. Reason : .]

3/24/2006 12:37:12 PM

^hahaha then touche' feel better now?

3/24/2006 12:39:05 PM

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"b/w my parents and the housekeeper "

Aw, you have a housekeeper.

3/25/2006 4:33:29 AM

*peers at you* You mean you'd actually *get* a girl to even CONSIDER dating, much less fucking you, whihle living off mommy and daddy who apparently have a housekeeper and a huge house?


Oh whatever.

3/25/2006 9:54:38 AM

I live with my parents as i'm moving to the UK next year. They were quite happy to have me live at home and were the ones to bring it up actually, I definitely don't mind since I get to spend time with my family before I move back (lived in the UK last year as well), I get to save money so that I'm able to move and not break the bank, and I have less distractions so I end up getting better grades... can't really lose.

3/25/2006 1:26:42 PM

Any way you look at it, 6k is 6k. If all I needed was a place to crash at night while I went to school or whatnot, heck yeah I'd be living at home.

3/25/2006 1:33:45 PM

I just get laid at her house... not much of a problem.

3/25/2006 2:11:23 PM

If I were single met a guy who said he lived with his parents after graduation or age 22, whichever comes first (exclusive of a dorm-liver who goes home during holidays) without paying rent, I'd probably realize that this relationship was a dead-end. This would include anyone I meet long after who admitted to such a thing. I'm sorry, but it makes me think of this person as exactly that: a mooch. It's an easy out, a very cheap and unappreciative way to abuse someone else's generosity. No matter how nice they are they "owe" you nothing after 18.

3/25/2006 4:12:21 PM

...and suppose you find out mom and dad make him pay rent?

living at home != mooch
there's a strong correlation, but saving money isn't the only reason people live at home. If he admits that's why he's living at home, then yes, time to skedaddle.

[Edited on March 25, 2006 at 4:35 PM. Reason : dlfkj]

3/25/2006 4:33:57 PM

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"I'm enjoying the $6k that I'm saving a year 'til I find a girl who isn't a sociopathic kleptomaniac. Then when my grandmother kicks the bucket, I'll have a house overlooking the golf course (we are in the process of buying it.)"

While living in your new house overlooking the golf course, make sure you complaiin long and loud about all those lazy fucks on welfare who never worked for anything. Because you, mate, will have worked very, very hard for everything you have and those welfare bums should be ashamed of living of handouts -- especially when those handouts are funded by your hard-earned wealth.

3/25/2006 5:41:12 PM

I plan on it, and I shall indocrinate your children with it as my students.



No. Not really. I teach impartially.

3/25/2006 6:05:58 PM

Don't you mean "impartiality"??

No wonder you're living at home.

And I guess you don't have to worry about the whole, "bring a girl back home to fuck while living with my parents" problem. Because I doubt this:







Could bring a girl back to fuck at a place with or without parents.

3/25/2006 6:13:13 PM

I like how whenever this discussion comes up, dissenters assume that everyone's parents are just like theirs


It's a smart move economically and it seems that both he and his parents are okay with it. Losing a little bit of fun now for a lot of security later is worth the tradeoff.

If your parents don't like the move, make it miserable for you, try to treat you like a teenager, etc... then it can be problematic.

3/25/2006 7:00:59 PM

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"Beardawg61: No. Not really. I teach impartially."

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"jbrick83: Don't you mean "impartiality"?? No wonder you're living at home."

jbrick83 obviously isn't the brightest. In fact, the exchange I just quoted is pretty embarassing.

Plus, I love the way he uses a picture of Beardawg61 ON A FUCKING BOAT in an attempt to illustrate Beardawg's inability to get the ladies.

[Edited on March 25, 2006 at 7:42 PM. Reason : sss]

3/25/2006 7:38:24 PM

They had to get used to buying Snackables, but that really pales in comparison to the carwash pits I dig out (and always have)... I don't know what the mexicans will do.

The sun was in my eyes so bad when they took that...

[Edited on March 25, 2006 at 7:43 PM. Reason : the pic.]

3/25/2006 7:40:56 PM

I like to play a game called "I'm better than everybody else"

3/25/2006 8:36:02 PM

You went to Duke?

3/25/2006 10:01:41 PM

I still live at home...just my dad and I...

I do have plans on moving out late junior/early senior year.

3/26/2006 3:40:09 AM

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"I'd probably realize that this relationship was a dead-end. This would include anyone I meet long after who admitted to such a thing. I'm sorry, but it makes me think of this person as exactly that: a mooch. It's an easy out, a very cheap and unappreciative way to abuse someone else's generosity. No matter how nice they are they "owe" you nothing after 18"

award for dumbest thing ever said. some people have really skewed perspectives. you know some parents LIKE their kids and not only wouldnt mind, but would welcome them moving back in for a year or two. plenty of parents are upset when their child moves to the other side of the country and they barely get to see them.

you are probably one of those people who thinks that having parents pay for school or an apartment is shameful as well. probably the same type of person who blames everyone on welfare for being lazy and poor. pride is such a retarded thing sometimes.

3/26/2006 9:02:41 AM

I live at home with my parents in Durham and commute. But this is because my dad is very sick and I help take care of him, and help out with my younger brother, since my mom also has many health problems.

Sure, I am missing out on my Freshman year of college, never being on campus, and living in a dorm, but it's worth the money I save. It's also easier because I kind of get a nip in the butt when they tell me I should be studying instead of playing video games/internet/watching tv. I also work 28 hours a week, but I pay my own credit card bills and just traded in my Eclipse on a BMW that has a better interest rate.

My parents are also foreign (my mom's from Germany, been in the country for 20 years, and my dad's parents are from Croatia, and no one in his family went to college), so they still have that "live with us until you're married" mindset. Come to think of it, I know lots of people with foreign parents who live at home.

As far as "WTF was that", it sucks ass when your MOM wakes you up and is like "I am paying good money for tuition now get your ass up and go to class!"

3/26/2006 9:34:46 AM

Ha! a girl that pays video games... but you're right, I would've gone to more classes.

BTW, I hope your father does well.

3/26/2006 10:36:40 AM

I think a lot of these haters should ask their "independent" friends who pays the bills. All but one of my friends live away from home, off-campus in an apartment where their parents pay the rent.

Another thing: students who do not get support from their parents often take out student loans. I don't see much difference between money from parents (pay back or not) and an actual loan.

At times, borrowing from and even relying on family is a good thing.

[Edited on March 26, 2006 at 11:28 AM. Reason : sss]

3/26/2006 11:23:07 AM

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"I don't see much difference between money from parents (pay back or not) and an actual loan."

You're dumb.





I would also like to add that I'm not saying there is anything wrong with having your education paid for by your parents. I don't want my kids to pay for a cent of their education. I also don't think there is anything wrong with living with your parents right out of school if you have to. It's your attitude about it that sets you apart. Don't act like its some awesome idea to save moneny. Don't use it as a crutch...at least make an effort to live on your own.

3/26/2006 12:33:28 PM

^You're missing one important word if you think that statement makes me dumb:

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"I don't see much difference between money from parents (pay back or not) and an actual loan."

The point I was making is that many of us do need help, and we all get it in different ways. I'm bothered by the fact that you would call me dumb because it took a lot of self-control for me not to call you a fucking idiot over this exchange:

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"Beardawg61: No. Not really. I teach impartially."

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"jbrick83: Don't you mean "impartiality"?? No wonder you're living at home."

I think it's funny how you went from looking down your nose at people not making it on their own to this:

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"I would also like to add that I'm not saying there is anything wrong with having your education paid for by your parents. I don't want my kids to pay for a cent of their education. I also don't think there is anything wrong with living with your parents right out of school if you have to. It's your attitude about it that sets you apart. Don't act like its some awesome idea to save moneny. Don't use it as a crutch...at least make an effort to live on your own."

Yeah, you better add that. Otherwise, you're just a judgmental (possibly bitter and jealous) prick.

(And, by the way, jbrick, Beardawg was exaggerating his "attitude" to piss you off.)

[Edited on March 26, 2006 at 1:46 PM. Reason : sss]

3/26/2006 1:44:52 PM

Look dumbass...

He could teach impartially (adverb), or he could teach impartiality (noun). I made a quick judgment and thought he was trying to use the noun. Either way works. I also didn't know he was a fucking teacher, which would better explain him teaching impartially. I made a rushed judgment, I admit it...but it's not half as bad as your statement.

There is "much" difference between money from parents and an actual loan. IF YOU TAKE OUT A FUCKING LOAN YOU HAVE TO PAY IT BACK. You don't get out of school with a clean slate. If you're in-state, you might have $40,000+ to pay off. If you're out-of-state, it's a lot more. I'm in grad school right now, and with scholarships, I'll still have to pay upwards of $75,000 plus interest when I get out. Which is a lot more than ZERO DOLLARS. When you have that much to pay back, you are put under a little bit of pressure. And with the job market the way it is, you can't just fuck around, you have to get at it.

Compare that with having your parents pay for your education (which again, there is nothing wrong with it, it's just your attitude about it)....and I hope you can see a difference.

And Beardawg never pissed me off. He just asked people to make fun of him...so I did...this is the wolfweb....deal with it or stay off the internet when you're on the rag.

3/26/2006 2:53:16 PM

Holy shit, this thread came so far from where I started it.


Poll... How many of you actually realized that I was purposfully being a douche?

3/26/2006 3:11:25 PM

^^Thank you, I see the difference now. So what you are saying is that, because you have to struggle so much, the rest of us should too?

I'm starting to see the issue here: bitter jealousy.

Good luck with that, man.

[Edited on March 26, 2006 at 5:31 PM. Reason : ]

3/26/2006 5:29:20 PM

^^ I think everybody noticed.

not that ambrosia's reading this drivel any more, but there's a big difference between mooching and paying rent when living at home - the only non-rent-paying I can excuse once you're out of college is in case of emergencies (>1month) or visiting from out of the area.


It's not my opinion that everyone "has" to suffer because I do or someone else does, but I do think that not taking advantage of someone else's money is definitely a good thing to learn. At risk of sounding like my grandparents, people who have everything handed to them for nothing don't understand the real value of a dollar. By "real value" I don't mean stuff like $1 buys a loaf of bread kind of value - I mean what it represents - achievement. To a single parent raising two kids in a trailer keeping food on the table is an achievement, something that's just taken for granted if you don't truly understand what it's like to worry. Plus then there's just the whole taking advantage of people thing ... not a fan.

3/26/2006 6:04:39 PM

yet another thread that i agreed with bridget until she tried to be a bitch (he's right, there is a big difference_

[Edited on March 26, 2006 at 6:14 PM. Reason : calm that estrogen down girl]

^ again completely off base. plenty of people come from an affluent homes and still work hard. often they learn this in other ways such as studying hard in school or practicing an instrument/sport to amazing levels. theres a lot to be said of things other than just busting your ass for spending money.

you are acting like anyone who gets money just slovenly sits around on the couch and calls up mom for some cash now and then. it is a dumb assumption and showcases the negatives of forcing your kids to work for everything: bitterness. people get this undue pride about them and assume everyone not working as hard as they is a lazy/worthless piece of shit. this in turn makes none of us like said people and they use that to confirm their biases.

[Edited on March 26, 2006 at 6:22 PM. Reason : .]

3/26/2006 6:13:51 PM

nah, i'm reading it

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"but I do think that not taking advantage of someone else's money is definitely a good thing to learn."

I totally agree...which is why I was somewhat OK with paying my parents rent when I lived at home (what I did mind is because that's not why they made me pay rent it. They were broke, and needed money. After high school, we had an agreement: If I'm not in college (full-time) and I am living at home, I'll pay rent. After I came back to school, and quit working full-time, they decided that they were still going to charge me "rent". For several months, my rent payments were more than half of the mortgage payment. By god, if you need money that badly, ask me for it. I'd have happily given it without pretenses like that).

I only made the point that I did, in the way that I did, because you seemed to be willing to judge anyone living at home, no matter what the circumstances are.
It's very true that a good way to wise up to the realities of being on your own is to live on your own, but it's not the only way. Living at home also doesn't keep a person from learning self-sufficiency and appreciating what they have.

I don't agree with this:

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"the only non-rent-paying I can excuse once you're out of college is in case of emergencies (>1month) or visiting from out of the area."

It's not okay to live with your parents rent-free if you're there because they've asked you to be? It's not okay to do it it's an investment of sorts (i.e., the money you're saving is allowing you to get a higher degree, and you've accepted that you'll be their caretakers when they need it, and that higher education will allow you to do this?)

It doesn't seem to me like you're willing to consider all the circumstances that would have people living at home, and are viewing only one type of person who does this as completely representative of all the others.

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"plenty of people come from an affluent homes and still work hard. often they learn this in other ways such as studying hard in school or practicing an instrument/sport to amazing levels. theres a lot to be said of things other than just busting your ass for spending money."

There's a big difference between working hard to keep a roof over your head while staying in school and working hard at extracurriculars/personal enrichment. She's not presenting her case very well, but I see both where she's coming from, and agree to an extent, and where you're coming from, and I agree with that stance sometimes.
I don't think mom and dad should throw money at their kids and say "Here, this is for college" without any sort of expectations except for good grades, but I also don't think 18year-olds should be going into college without any sort of safety net. Going to school is definitely a privilege, but managing to do so shouldn't involve several jobs if mom and dad are capable doing something for you.

3/26/2006 6:22:07 PM

i understand im being a bit far on the other side of the spectrum, but thats only to counter. i agree with you amb for the most part.

3/26/2006 6:34:40 PM

^^ I said it in far fewer words

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"dissenters assume that everyone's parents are just like theirs"

3/26/2006 6:46:27 PM

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"So what you are saying is that, because you have to struggle so much, the rest of us should too?"

Reading comprehension is so underrated. Oh well, I tried.

3/26/2006 10:09:51 PM

^Dude, explain it to us. Explain how you think you think it's "shameful" to live with your parents after the age of 18 (22, in your case--although it's not clear what you mean). Explain how living with your parent(s) is automatically a "burden" on them.

YOUR FUCKING QUOTE:

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"Personally, my logic would be that I would just be ashamed to still be mooching off my parents. My mom supported me as best she could for 18 years, the fuck if I'm going to be a lazy ass and put off "being in the real world" to be a burden on her for another couple of years. And if I was "forced" to still move back in with my mom, I wouldn't be bragging about it."

You can't say shit like this without criticism...

Clearly, you aren't familiar with family members than can help and support one another without "burden" at all...

[Edited on March 27, 2006 at 12:22 AM. Reason : aaa]

3/27/2006 12:11:40 AM

Here's what you keep missing...

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"And if I was "forced" to still move back in with my mom, I wouldn't be bragging about it. "

and...

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"It's your attitude about it that sets you apart. Don't act like its some awesome idea to save moneny. Don't use it as a crutch...at least make an effort to live on your own."

might as well add this...

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"I would also like to add that I'm not saying there is anything wrong with having your education paid for by your parents. I don't want my kids to pay for a cent of their education. I also don't think there is anything wrong with living with your parents right out of school if you have to."

You dumb bitch. Don't speak of what you don't know:

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"Clearly, you aren't familiar with family members than can help and support one another without "burden" at all..."

I've experienced both sides of the fucking spectrum. I've got a mom who would give me every last cent of her money if I would let her. I've got a dad who only gives me what the court is forced to give me and a stepdad who stopped giving a long time ago. I had my undergrad paid for because of scholarships and because the divorce papers made my dad pay for it. My mom had enough money left over (from working three friggin jobs) after taking care of my grandparents financially to help me with my books. Other than that, I've paid all my rent/clothes/bills by myself for the past 5 years.

You know what though...big fucking whoop! I know people who pay every cent of their tuition working their way through school who have it 1000 times worse than I did. I would assume I have it pretty easy compared to most kids because I assume most kids took out loans in undergrad (although my law school loans will probably trump most in-state undergrad loans). I'll repeat it again so you don't miss it...IT'S ALL ABOUT YOUR ATTITUDE. If your parents pay for everything...tuition/rent/books/spending money/etc....then that's great. I hope to do the same thing for my kids one day.

But don't use your parent's money as a crutch (which is what a couple of people have said a few posts up). Don't be a lazy ass just because "you have a free place to stay." Respect that you have that as a safety net and work hard so that you don't have to use it.

3/27/2006 1:25:36 AM

A fat guy who is slothful? PERISH THE THOUGHT

3/27/2006 3:36:06 AM

^^Jbrick83, those two things that I "keep missing"...those were ideas that you shared AFTER I challenged you. This is always happening on TWW. One kid gets a little out of hand, spewing a bunch of bullshit. I say something to call him out. Then it's, "DUMB BITCH 'THIS', AND DUMB BITCH 'THAT.' Oh, let me change the entire premise of what I'm talking about. If can just put my words in accordance with what everyone else is saying, then that will be justification for the bullshit I said earlier." Wrong.

JUST STOP! It's okay to admit you were wrong. It's okay to admit that you didn't bother thinking things through before. I see all the recent things your posting, and they aren't too controversial...but you've yet to explain any of your initial bullshit:

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"Personally, my logic would be that I would just be ashamed to still be mooching off my parents. My mom supported me as best she could for 18 years, the fuck if I'm going to be a lazy ass and put off "being in the real world" to be a burden on her for another couple of years. And if I was "forced" to still move back in with my mom, I wouldn't be bragging about it."

ashamed, mooching, lazy ass, burden, forced...?

YOU WENT FROM THE QUOTE ABOVE TO YOUR MOST RECENT QUOTE BELOW:

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"I'll repeat it again so you don't miss it...IT'S ALL ABOUT YOUR ATTITUDE. If your parents pay for everything...tuition/rent/books/spending money/etc....then that's great. I hope to do the same thing for my kids one day."

I'M DONE WITH THIS THREAD. JBRICK83 HAS SEEMINGLY CHANGED HIS OPINION. I'M GLAD.

3/27/2006 12:21:15 PM

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""Hi mom, hi dad, this is Kristan... we're gonna go upstairs now and I'm gonna bang the living shit out of her ass.""

hahahaha, yeah right dude, don't act like you get any pussy at your parents house

[Edited on March 27, 2006 at 12:33 PM. Reason : well maybe from the housekeeper]

3/27/2006 12:32:12 PM

Set 'em up for more freeloading fun

3/27/2006 12:41:58 PM