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Smath74
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There was no possible way the crews to the moon could have survived the intense radiation in the radiation belts that surround the earth (above normal orbiting levels.).

the skin of the apollo crafts were the thickness of aluminum foil in places, and would offer virtually zero protection against the radiation that is well above lethal levels.

additionally, the video of the astronauts on "the moon" is easily identified as fake for several reasons. first, the simulated gravity is all wrong. they were way too "heavy" to really be on the moon. if you look at the video, the way they move can by analyzed and the motions are consistent with a gravity environment of 50% that of on the earth. In reality, the moon only has 1/6th of the gravity of the earth, WELL below the "gravity felt by the astronauts".

Secondly, there is no atmosphere on the moon, but there are several things in the videos that show that there really IS air. on a video from apollo 14, for example, there is a flap on one of the astronaut's suits that is obviously being blown by the wind. you can see it yourself if you find the video.

3/31/2006 2:42:35 PM

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that's not all!

there's also no way the flag can waive like that on the moon

and and and

if you look real close, you'll notice something very important missing from the background: STARS

and and and

the mountains in the background never move even when the camera does

TOTALLY FAKED!!1

3/31/2006 2:44:13 PM

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not to mention off to the left side on a rock, you can see someone's coffee cup AND the boom mike at the top of the screen!

3/31/2006 2:45:37 PM

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yah! and also, when the lander takes off you can't see any fire from the rocket burning beneath it. all rockets burn fuel!! duh.

NASA must think we're a bunch of idiots or something...

3/31/2006 2:47:03 PM

CDeezntz
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didnt we go afterwards and hit golfballs.

3/31/2006 2:51:55 PM

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You can not land on the moon. Its cheeze surface is too irresistable. You would never leave it and therefore die.

Get it through your heads' guys.

[Edited on March 31, 2006 at 3:07 PM. Reason : correction]

3/31/2006 3:01:56 PM

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george bush is also an alien...really he is

3/31/2006 3:04:17 PM

30thAnnZ
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^^ OMG DON'T SAY CHEESE

EVEN IN A SERIOUS THREAD

3/31/2006 3:05:38 PM

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Are you kidding me Smath?

This is as old as Jeebus. Let me hunt the site down for your dumb ass...

http://pirl[link]http://www.lpl.arizona.edu/~jscotti/NOT_faked/[/link]

I don't know if that's the best one, but its one anyway.
http://www.lunaranomalies.com/fake-moon.htm



http://www.clavius.org/

[Edited on March 31, 2006 at 4:35 PM. Reason : and another]

3/31/2006 4:28:32 PM

JonHGuth
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the radiation belt would have killed them

3/31/2006 4:31:40 PM

CDeezntz
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i wish they would send smath to the moon

3/31/2006 4:38:59 PM

Smath74
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well that's a mean thing to say

3/31/2006 5:21:19 PM

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3/31/2006 6:01:32 PM

Skack
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I got whipped with a radiation belt in the 1st grade for stealing the teacher's pencil and I'm still alive. It did leave some nasty red marks though.

3/31/2006 6:05:41 PM

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http://www.lunaranomalies.com/fake-moon.htm

Quote :
"The problem: the sun, in the lunar helmet reflection pictured here, appears much larger (and therefore closer!) than it possibly could. Our explanation for this remarkable observation is firmly grounded in our investigation of the REAL conspiracy that NASA has worked so hard, for over 40 years, to cover-up: the presence of ancient, glass-like ruins on the Moon."


uhhhhh, huh?

3/31/2006 6:47:48 PM

CDeezntz
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HAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAaa

4/2/2006 12:54:24 PM

Pyro
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Hardy har har Smath's trolling again.

4/2/2006 1:41:13 PM

Gamecat
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Oh great. Now they're gonna fake BUILDING A BASE on the moon...

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2006/03/25/AR2006032500999_2.html

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"U.S. Planning Base on Moon To Prepare for Trip to Mars
Scientists Hard at Work On Technological Hurdles

HOUSTON -- For the first time since 1972, the United States is planning to fly to the moon, but instead of a quick, Apollo-like visit, astronauts intend to build a permanent base and live there while they prepare what may be the most ambitious undertaking in history -- putting human beings on Mars.

President Bush in 2004 announced to great fanfare plans to build a new spaceship, get back to the moon by 2020 and travel on to Mars after that. But, with NASA focused on designing a new spaceship and spending about 40 percent of its budget on the troubled space shuttle and international space station programs, that timetable may suffer.

Still, NASA's moon planners are closely following the spaceship initiative and, within six months, will outline what they need from the new vehicle to enable astronauts to explore the lunar surface.

"It's deep in the future before we go there," said architect Larry Toups, head of habitation systems for NASA's Advanced Projects Office. "But it's like going on a camping trip and buying a new car. You want to make sure you have a trailer hitch if you need it."

Scientists and engineers are hard at work studying technologies that don't yet exist and puzzling over questions such as how to handle the psychological stress of moon settlement, how to build lunar bulldozers and how to reacquire what planetary scientist Christopher P. McKay of NASA's Ames Research Center calls "our culture of exploration."

The moon is not for the faint of heart. It is a lethal place, without atmosphere, pelted constantly by cosmic rays and micrometeorites, plagued by temperature swings of hundreds of degrees, and swathed in a blanket of dust that can ruin space suits, pollute the air supply and bring machinery to a screeching halt.

And that says nothing about the imponderables. Will working in one-sixth of Earth's gravity for a year cause crippling health problems? What happens when someone suffers from a traumatic injury that can't be treated by fellow astronauts? How do people react to living in a tiny space under dangerous conditions for six months?

"It's like Magellan. You send them off, and maybe they come back, maybe they don't," said planetary scientist Wendell W. Mendell, manager of NASA's Office for Human Exploration Science, during an interview at the recently concluded Lunar and Planetary Science Conference here. "There's a lot of pathologies that show up, and there's nobody in the Yellow Pages."

In some ways, the moon will be harder than Mars. Moon dust is much more abrasive than Mars dust; Mars has atmosphere; Mars has more gravity (one-third of Earth's); Mars has plenty of ice for a potential water supply, while the moon may have some, but probably not very much.

Still, the moon is ultimately much more forgiving because it is much closer -- 250,000 miles away, while Mars is 34 million miles from Earth at its closest point. If someone needs help on the moon, it takes three days to get there. By contrast, Mars will be several months away even with the help of advanced -- and as yet nonexistent -- propulsion systems.

Not having to pay as dearly for mistakes is one key reason why the moon is an integral part of the Bush initiative. The other, as even scientists point out, is that if the United States does not return to the moon, others will.

"The new thing is China, and they've announced they're going to the moon. The Europeans want to go; the Russians want to go; and if we don't go, maybe they'll go with the Chinese," Mars Institute Chairman Pascal Lee said in an interview. "Could we bypass the moon and go to Mars while India and China are going to the moon? I don't think so."

Bush's 2004 "Vision for Space Exploration," by calling for a lunar return and a subsequent Mars mission, set goals, which, if achieved, would keep the United States in the forefront of space exploration for decades.

Since then, mishaps and delays with the space shuttle and the space station programs have shrunk both the moon research budget and the rhetoric promoting the mission.


In this artist's conception, two astronauts on a rover embark on a science mission on the moon with the help of a robotic assistant. All their equipment is to be carried by the two vehicles.
In this artist's conception, two astronauts on a rover embark on a science mission on the moon with the help of a robotic assistant. All their equipment is to be carried by the two vehicles. (Nasa)
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Instead, NASA Administrator Michael D. Griffin has focused agency attention and resources on the design and construction of a new "crew exploration vehicle" and its attendant rocketry -- the spacecraft that will push U.S. astronauts once again beyond low Earth orbit.

Despite the moon's current low profile, however, NASA continues to plan a lunar mission and to promote the technological advances needed to achieve it. Toups, one of the moon program's designers, said NASA envisions that a lunar presence, once achieved, will begin with two-to-four years of "sorties" to "targeted areas."

These early forays will resemble the six Apollo lunar missions, which ended in 1972. "You have four crew for seven to 10 days," Toups said in a telephone interview. "Then, if you found a site of particular interest, you would want to set up a permanent outpost there."

The south pole is currently the top target. It is a craggy and difficult area, but it is also the likeliest part of the lunar surface to have both permanent sunlight, for electric power, and ice, although many scientists have questions about how much ice there is. Without enough water, mission planners might pick a gentler landscape.

Site selection will mark the end of what McKay calls Apollo-style "camping trips." "There's got to be a lot more autonomy, so we keep it simple," McKay said. "We're going to be on Mars for a long time, and we have to use the moon to think in those terms."

The templates, cited frequently by moon mavens, are the U.S. bases in Antarctica, noteworthy for isolation, extreme environment, limited access, lack of indigenous population and no possibility of survival without extensive logistical support.

"The lunar base is not a 'colony,' " Lee said. " 'Colonization' implies populating the place, and that's not on the plate. This is a research outpost."

Once planners choose a base, the astronauts will immediately need to bring a host of technologies to bear, none of which currently exist. "Power is a big challenge," Toups said. Solar arrays are an obvious answer, but away from the poles 14 days of lunar sunlight are followed by 14 days of darkness, so "how do you handle the dormancy periods?"

Next is the spacesuit. Apollo suits weighed 270 pounds on Earth, a relatively comfortable "felt weight" of 40 to 50 pounds on the moon, but an unacceptable 102 pounds on Mars. "You can't haul that around, bend down or climb hills," Lee said. "Somehow we have to cut the mass of the current spacesuit in half."

And the new suit, unlike the Apollo suits or the current 300-pound shuttle suit, is going to have to be relatively easy to put on and take off, and to be able withstand the dreaded moon dust.

After three days, Apollo astronauts reported that the dust was causing the joints in their suits to jam, "and we're not talking about three outings," Lee said of the next moon missions. "We're talking about once a week for 500 days -- between 70 and 100 spacewalks."

Dealing with dust is also a major concern in building shelters on the lunar surface. Toups said it might be possible to harden the ground by microwaving it, creating a crust "like a tarp when you're camping." Otherwise, the dust pervades everything, and prolonged exposure could even lead to silicosis.

Dust also makes it virtually impossible to use any kind of machinery with ball bearings. Civil engineer Darryl J. Calkins, of the Army Corps of Engineers Cold Regions Research and Engineering Laboratory, warned that the combination of dust, low gravity, temperature swings and the high cost of flying things to the moon is going to define the lunar tool kit in unforeseen ways.

"You can't put a diesel up there; you can't put a 20,000-pound bulldozer up there; and none of our oils or hydraulic fluids are going to survive," Calkins said in a telephone interview. "We may have to go back to the 19th century to find appropriate tools -- use cables, pulleys, levers."

And even then, it will be difficult to level a base site and haul away the fill because there's not enough gravity to give a tractor adequate purchase. Instead, Calkins envisions a device that can "scrape and shave" small amounts of soil and take it away bit by bit.

But in the end, "you have to learn how to do it, with real people," McKay said. "This is hard, but we can learn it. And if we do it right on the moon, we will be able to answer my ultimate question: Can Mars be habitable? I think the answer is 'yes.' ""


IMPOSSIBLE!11

4/4/2006 12:09:25 AM

Smath74
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ANOTHER THING


if Neil Armstrong was the first person to set foot on the moon as they claimed, WHO IN GOD'S NAME OPERATED THE CAMERA SHOWING HIM COMING OUT OF HIS MOON-MOBILE???

4/4/2006 4:53:07 PM

Smath74
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ANOTHER THING


if Neil Armstrong was the first person to set foot on the moon as they claimed, WHO IN GOD'S NAME OPERATED THE CAMERA SHOWING HIM COMING OUT OF HIS MOON-MOBILE???

4/4/2006 4:54:57 PM

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ANOTHER THING


if Neil Armstrong was the first person to set foot on the moon as they claimed, WHO IN GOD'S NAME OPERATED THE CAMERA SHOWING HIM COMING OUT OF HIS MOON-MOBILE???

4/4/2006 5:28:09 PM

Sputter
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it was a dramatization

4/4/2006 9:15:38 PM

Gamecat
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Aliums?

4/4/2006 10:54:42 PM

Smath74
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i can't believe people still think the moon landing is true (like global warming)

5/31/2014 12:35:49 AM

A Tanzarian
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The LEM is in Ron Howard's office.

5/31/2014 12:41:00 AM

Dentaldamn
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We fake the other ones too?

5/31/2014 8:47:26 AM

Førte
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we didn't, but someone else did

5/31/2014 2:24:55 PM

Smath74
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^i loved that documentary.

5/31/2014 4:22:56 PM

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6/2/2014 7:30:57 PM

smc
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^Ad hominem.

6/3/2014 1:19:26 AM

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