Honestly, I have always been a Herb supporter, but if it is true that he is seriously considering other jobs and "talking" to other schools -- that is discouraging...

So, my question is: who are realistic candidates to take over if Herb decides to leave?

Personally, I hope Herb will stay...

[Edited on April 1, 2006 at 2:15 PM. Reason : /]

4/1/2006 2:14:34 PM

Dave Odom

4/1/2006 2:15:30 PM

JARVIS

4/1/2006 2:15:44 PM

Quote :

"Don't make me suspend you."

4/1/2006 2:17:12 PM

I would never watch NCSU b-ball again if Odom replaced Herb.

4/1/2006 2:17:56 PM

Some have mentioned Johnny Dawkins. If he is good, would be nice to pay Duke back for stealing Bubas

4/1/2006 2:18:52 PM

Monty Towe

4/1/2006 2:23:34 PM

Only former player remotely qualified or good enough for the job is Nate McMillan.

4/1/2006 2:26:58 PM

McMillan doesn't have a degree. It isn't happening.

4/1/2006 2:27:45 PM

Well, first you go after the big guns, whether you think its realistic or not. After all, Norm Chow wouldn't have been our offensive coordinator Rivers' first year had we not asked.

Unrealistic (But I'd ask anyways):
Barnes
Few
Pearl
Calipari
Wright
T. Smith
Donovan

More Realistic:
Mike Montgomery
Steve Lavin
Greg Marshall

4/1/2006 2:29:23 PM

Lavin would be great if he could stay clean

dont think its gonna go over but if he could keep us clean as a program go for that

4/1/2006 2:30:30 PM

I thought UCLA hated lavin

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"Steve Lavin is going to be fired at the end of the season, if he makes it that long. Amid a ton of speculation and leaks, most likely from “ The Lavin Camp “, Steve Lavin was supposedly thinking about resigning. When I first read this in many west coast papers a smile formed on my face. I though to myself, finally the nightmare is over, the guy, at the very least, turned out to be decent, with the best interest of the kids in his heart. Wrong again, in his press conference yesterday he indicated that he never thought about resigning and would love the challenge of coaching the team next year. This guy is unbelievable, not only is he ruining the potential professions and dreams of some of his players by not making them better over there time at UCLA, but he continues to be selfish and out for himself. God forbid he resign and start the healing process to a program that he has single handedly trounced. Throughout his time at UCLA Steve Lavin has failed to realize why so many alumni and fans have wanted him out for so long. He thinks and gets most of the mass media to believe that UCLA fans have unattainable expectations. He raves about his sweet 16’s and writers compare his results in the tournament to Coach K. It is time to set the record straight about Steve Lavin. Steve Lavin makes over $500,000 dollars a year to coach the UCLA bruins. UCLA has not been ranked in the top 10, in the season ending poll, since 1997. In the past 6 years he has failed to win one Pac-10 Championship, the first time in UCLA history. He has the second worst winning percentage of any coach post Wooden, after inheriting a team that was one year removed from a National Championship, Walt Hazzard has the worst .621. He has not finished higher than third in the Pac-10 conference since he inherited Jim Harrick’s team his first year. He finished 6th last year in the Pac-10 the lowest ever at UCLA. He has lost the most games at Pauley Pavilion in 20 years. Steve Lavin has a chance to lose 20 games this year. He needs to win 5 games the rest of the regular season or 4 and win the pac-10 tourney to avoid the 20-loss mark. The most losses in one season, since John Wooden, are 14; and that is virtually a certainty. Steve Lavin will have the first losing season at UCLA in over 50 years. Steve Lavin has had at least one McDonald’s All-American on his team every year and at least 3 for the past 5 seasons and has yet to win a conference championship or make a final four. Steve Lavin has lost to some bad teams at Pauley Pavilion: Detroit, Cal State Northridge, Pepperdine, Gonzaga (before they were on the map) and this year alone to University San Diego and Northern Arizona. Steve Lavin’s teams have also been blown out of some games: 41 points by North Carolina, 36 points to Duke, 29 points to Pac-10 foes Arizona St., Cal, and Oregon, 26 points to Kentucky and 24 points to Iowa St. I am continually amazed that the mass media continues to defend a guy who has not accomplished much of anything at UCLA. Zero conference championships and Zero final fours. The simple fact that he has tried to make UCLA fans feel satisfied with Sweet 16’s is an affront to all UCLA fans. Sweet 16’s are fine if that is what your team’s potential is, but taking a preseason top 5 rated team (2001-2002) to the sweet 16 is a bad job and not one that should be appreciated. This year he has taken a top 25 rated pre-season team to a 4-7 record with a good chance to lose their next 5 games. In just 7 years Steve Lavin will have set almost every negative record in UCLA history since John Wooden, and that is not something that should be defended or praised. UCLA fans want a team that plays to its potential, a team that plays fundamentally sound basketball, a team that displays player development and work ethic. If these simple goals are accomplished the accolades of conference championships and final fours will take care of themselves. The saddest part of the entire scenario is that Steve Lavin has done a poor job and will be a Millionaire while the kids that he was supposed to help and mold into successful basketball players and men have been neglected and not given an opportunity to be the best that they could be. The only positive is that UCLA fans have at most 57 days more of Steve Lavin, and the countdown begins."

[Edited on April 1, 2006 at 2:34 PM. Reason : 465]

4/1/2006 2:32:26 PM

ahhhh random Herb babble

too bad

4/1/2006 2:37:36 PM

4/1/2006 2:39:46 PM

[whoopi goldberg in eddie fuck you tripid]

[Edited on April 1, 2006 at 2:46 PM. Reason : ]

4/1/2006 2:41:38 PM

See I want herb to peace out so we can have exciting basketball.

But

I know our school won't get anyone better and wil most likely get someone worse.

Glad I'm peacing out.

4/1/2006 2:45:14 PM

Mike Jarvis would be a good fit, and I've been saying that for years.

4/1/2006 3:13:43 PM

UCLA fans hated Lavin...however I do believe he took them to 5 straight Sweet 16's before being fired.


Unrealistic Candidates:
Bruce Pearl
Jay Wright
Mark Few (impossible, IMO)

More Realistic, not likely:
Rick Barnes
John Calipari (Just becuase I don't think he stays in Conf USA)

Could probably get them all:
Gregg Marshall
Mark Turgeon (Hot candidate for many jobs, wouldn't want him, personally. Methodical offenses dont work)
Karl Hobbs
Mike Montgomery (Don't think so, but some folks tend to think its a possibility)

That's a short list... I'm sure there's quite a bit more I'm missing. My "Hey, it could happen" list would probably be as follows.

1) Bruce Pearl... see if there's a way. He's always been my favorite, but we missed the boat on him
2) Place a call to Jay Wright and see if there's any way possible....
3) Calipari
4) Rick Barnes
5) Mike Montgomery
6) I'd probably say my favorite on the "probable" list is Gregg Marshall. His lack of "bigtime" coaching is a concern, but there's been many great coaches who have come from very small schools

I actually wouldn't mind Lavin, to tell you the truth. He wouldn't be my first, or 5th, but he'd be an upgrade, IMO

I also wouldn't mind giving a call to Johnny Dawkins, honestly. Even though he's a Dukie, I think he'd be someone we should consider. Bubas was an NC State alum and he worked out well for Duke.... let's return the favor.

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"Dave Odom "

Hell no. That would be 10 more years of the same thing.



[Edited on April 1, 2006 at 3:33 PM. Reason : ]

4/1/2006 3:21:15 PM

I would really have to look at Lavin's basketball product. Did his teams suffer from terminal problems that would prevent them from getting hot for 6 games at the end of a season.

4/1/2006 3:29:15 PM

I actually don't remember too much of Lavin, so I can't honestly answer that. I know he had some really good teams, but UCLA fans got to where we are now with the "If it was going to happen, it would have happened already" attitude.

4/1/2006 3:30:59 PM

Calipari wouldn't even talk to Indiana. Why would he consider coming here? I really doubt we have any chance at a BIG name coach.

4/1/2006 3:37:02 PM

I'm pretty sure that any coach replacing Herb would be his equal or worse.

Not better.

4/1/2006 3:53:00 PM

Who is Winthrop's head coach?

I heard that he doesnt want to leave there, but if the price is right, you never know.

He runs a very fast paced game, and it looks like he's turned some athletes into good basketball players.

I'd accept him...a young guy, not a proven winner in big time ball, but I'd give a guy like him a chance.

4/1/2006 4:00:25 PM

why don't you all just admit you want to play royboyball

4/1/2006 4:00:59 PM

I'm not even wanting Herb to leave at this point, but if we're gonna bring someone else in, they better not run some boring horse shit offense.

4/1/2006 4:02:15 PM

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"Who is Winthrop's head coach? I heard that he doesnt want to leave there, but if the price is right, you never know. He runs a very fast paced game, and it looks like he's turned some athletes into good basketball players. I'd accept him...a young guy, not a proven winner in big time ball, but I'd give a guy like him a chance."

Quote :

"6) I'd probably say my favorite on the "probable" list is Gregg Marshall. His lack of "bigtime" coaching is a concern, but there's been many great coaches who have come from very small schools "

4/1/2006 4:02:23 PM

^thanks

Winthrop plays good D too.

4/1/2006 4:03:17 PM

Gregg Marshall is a great coach and I definitely think if ncsu gave him 10 years that he would win conference and go past the sweet sixteen...not that he will need that long though

4/1/2006 4:12:51 PM

how in the fuck can any of you think we cant do better than Herb??? Did you also think we couldnt do better than Mike O'Cain?

4/1/2006 4:26:24 PM

We fucked up by not going after Mike Anderson from UAB

His 40 minutes of hell would have fit in well at this school.

4/1/2006 4:26:50 PM

I think Anderson would have been a good hire as well.

4/1/2006 4:29:04 PM

I think Lavin would be an excellent recruiter

4/1/2006 4:58:04 PM

I have no confidence at all in us hiring the coach that we need. The market sucks right now, and I hate that we're going to have to go into the midmajor market again.

This is not good...

4/1/2006 5:03:36 PM

agreed.

4/1/2006 5:04:18 PM

Quote :

" : "Dave Odom " Hell no. That would be 10 more years of the same thing. "

how would that be the same thing

odom can't even make an NCAA in a weaker conference



[Edited on April 1, 2006 at 5:16 PM. Reason : k]

4/1/2006 5:07:22 PM

What's Nolan Richardson up to these days?

4/1/2006 5:15:38 PM

realistic or not

we should gun for Izzo

he probably likes where he is too much

but if I was a bigtime $ donor

i'd call him anyway

Izzo is the only person in the nation I think can regularly beat Roy and K

4/1/2006 5:34:39 PM

jim calhoun

he has funny excuses

4/1/2006 5:35:55 PM

I detest Rick Barnes and John Calipari. I'd have a hard time pulling for any team coached by those guys -- especially Calipari.

4/1/2006 5:40:32 PM

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"I have no confidence at all in us hiring the coach that we need. "

Seconded...find that link to the NY Jets draft history video....thats gonna be EVERY State fans reaction to who we hire if this plays out.

4/1/2006 5:46:58 PM

Quote :

"I think Lavin would be an excellent recruiter"

we need a coach, not a recruiter. Herb was not a bad recruiter.


It at least doesn't hurt to ask big name coaches like Izzo to see if there is any room for movement.

4/1/2006 5:59:10 PM

What about Jim Laranaga?

4/1/2006 6:01:23 PM

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"Calipari wouldn't even talk to Indiana. Why would he consider coming here? I really doubt we have any chance at a BIG name coach."

Go read the Memphis boards. They believe Calipari has interviewed for the Oklahoma job.

Quote :

"Calipari to talk to OU about the coaching job? Any truth to this"

Quote :

"yes, unfortunately there is. I have a friend that live in Oklahoma City and is a HUGE OU fan. He called me last night and told me that Cal and one other coach, I forget who, had accepted interviews for the job. "

I think it's as unlikely as you do, but all they can say is no. Again, I don't think Calipari stays in Conference USA

[Edited on April 1, 2006 at 6:06 PM. Reason : ]

4/1/2006 6:03:31 PM

Quote :

"Did you also think we couldnt do better than Mike O'Cain?"

O'Cain's last 3 years at State: 6-5, 7-5, and 6-6.

Remind me our record the last 3 years.

SHUT THE FUCK UP ALREADY.

HERB IS OUR BASKETBALL COACH NO MATTER IF THERE ARE 1000000000 THREADS!

4/1/2006 7:20:35 PM

4/1/2006 7:29:51 PM

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"Calipari wouldn't even talk to Indiana. Why would he consider coming here? I really doubt we have any chance at a BIG name coach."

ACC hype. A lot of coaches would love the opportunity to turn a has-been program (with a lot of tradition) into a giant-killer... especially in the same backyard as UNC and Duke.

4/1/2006 7:39:10 PM

YEP, WE SURE ARE HAS-BEENS

4/1/2006 7:40:24 PM

well, the glory days are long gone. Doesn't mean they can't come back.

4/1/2006 7:42:24 PM

4/1/2006 7:43:01 PM

Sean Miller....you heard it here first

4/1/2006 8:31:31 PM