Because, you know, they'll probably transfer now that we ran Herb off

4/1/2006 9:15:46 PM

probably not

4/1/2006 9:16:07 PM

CARZIN, BEARDIZAWG

DO YOUR THING

4/1/2006 9:16:14 PM

atsur will follow herb

4/1/2006 9:16:41 PM

4/1/2006 9:16:52 PM

ernie for sports talk mod

4/1/2006 9:17:14 PM

maybe we'll get some american players

4/1/2006 9:17:16 PM

Some folks have said Simmons and Fells were unhappy with Herb after the season, actually.

4/1/2006 9:17:19 PM

Bethel also didn't seem to confident about the coaching situation.

4/1/2006 9:18:46 PM

CAM, ILIAN, AND TONY AREN'T COMING BACK NEXT YEAR!!!!! DAMN YOU FOR RUNNING OFF HERB!!!!!

4/1/2006 9:28:18 PM

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"atsur will follow herb "

if we could only be so lucky

4/1/2006 10:18:51 PM

that would be awesome is Atsur followed.

4/1/2006 10:19:14 PM

any new coach worth anything would bring him in off the bench

4/1/2006 10:23:33 PM

I'd like to think the young guys will all stay. They have a chance to prove themselves to a new coach who might utilize them better. Everyone has a fresh start..... yatta yatta yatta but there is truth to starting fresh with a new coach...

4/1/2006 10:47:26 PM

nobody is going to leave, recruits or players until a new coach is announced. if we get a big name then they will stick around, if not, the # of players that leave is going to be equally proportional to how shitty the coach is.

4/1/2006 10:49:23 PM

usually most players/recruits don't leave after a coaching change.

they may talk about it, but eventually they calm down, meet the new guy, like him, and it's all cool.

4/1/2006 10:53:32 PM

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"Some folks have said Simmons and Fells were unhappy with Herb after the season, actually."

Some of us folks are disappointed in the way Simmons finished the year too.

4/1/2006 10:57:57 PM

he cant do anything when the offense is designed to avoid him.

4/1/2006 10:59:12 PM

and players who dont have a clue about how to get him the ball or help him out when he has the ball

4/1/2006 11:00:43 PM

Josh8315 is officially the biggest sports talk troll for the time being

4/1/2006 11:23:10 PM

those players won't leave. this coaching change is the best thing that could happen for them, since they will most likely end up with a coach that understands how to coach the talent he has.

4/1/2006 11:27:21 PM

simmons will go pro
grant will transfer
wright won't come

fells may actually stay
atsur will stay
ferguson will stay
mccauley may stay
costner will stay

the rest, who knows? but i think it's pretty obvious we are fucked

4/2/2006 1:47:57 PM

That is total speculation.

The only thing I am pretty sure of is that we will lose Wright... but I could be pleasantly surprised..

4/2/2006 1:49:23 PM

^^okay chicken little.

nothing bad will happen.

4/2/2006 1:51:53 PM

^yeah we'll see

just wait til we fall apart and truly become mediocre. what will you say then?

4/2/2006 1:53:58 PM

I hope everyone that is forecasting doom will fess up to how wrong they are when the next coach comes in and wins 20+ games his first season.

4/2/2006 1:54:37 PM

TRANSFER TO FUCKING ASU ALREADY

IF HERB MEANS MORE TO YOU THAN ANYTHING ELSE

LEAVE

JESUS CHRIST QUIT WHINING.

4/2/2006 1:54:39 PM

it's not herb, it's the success of our program. losing herb means our program is going to shit. we are going to lose a lot of players over this and we will not make the tournament next year. in fact, i don't think we will go to 5 tournaments in a row again within the next 10 years.

the ONLY way we can keep from losing everyone is if we hire a great coach IMMEDIATELY, and that aint gonna happen, because nobody great will EVER come here so they can get stuck in the shadow of K and Roy. we will get a mid-major guy from say, miami of ohio or some shit that will be a complete gamble, kind of like herb was.

honestly, i hope we hire mike davis, so all you fucking rednecks will shit yourself over a black guy being our coach.

4/2/2006 1:58:02 PM

mike davis sucks as a coach

secondly

the program is not going to go to shit

it was already shit

The players are not going anywhere

the vast majority of them were sick of Herb.

[Edited on April 2, 2006 at 2:00 PM. Reason : .]

4/2/2006 1:59:20 PM

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"it was already shit"

That is at worst a lie and at best a total exaggeration and you know it. The program was NOT shit. The program at worst had leveled off. It was definitely NOT shit. The recruiting was top notch still and the results were far above average still.

Does that mean the fanbase should settle for those results? No. But to say the program was shit is ridiculous...

4/2/2006 2:01:12 PM

Grant WILL NOT leave

4/2/2006 2:03:09 PM

yeah people said that about herb too

4/2/2006 2:15:42 PM

Quote :

"The recruiting was top notch still and the results were far above average still."

the recruiting was a lot better than the results, and there is no excuse for that. All future players will see from that is a coach who doesn't produce real results or develop them for the next level of play.

4/2/2006 2:16:22 PM

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"yeah people said that about herb too"

there is a big difference here

from what I understand all the players minus the likes of Atsur were upset with Herb.

the marjority were about to transfer.

so get off this chicken little bullshit.

4/2/2006 2:19:18 PM

Proof please?

I didn't hear anything about that and never even READ ABOUT it on here or packpride until now..

4/2/2006 2:20:56 PM

^Well, it was becoming obvious that fells was pissed over his playing time. During his recruiting Herb pumped him up to be the next Hodge, and so acording to grant (via interviews) fells was not handleing that well.

4/2/2006 2:24:41 PM

One guy a bit upset about playing time /= the majority of the team about to transfer.. seems like hyperbole to me..

4/2/2006 2:25:35 PM

Quote :

"losing herb means our program is going to shit."

i just can't understand why people think this - especially w/out knowing who the new coach is going to be.

4/2/2006 2:32:31 PM

now that he's gone, the players will be safe to say what they want about Herb. They couldn't do that while he was still the head coach. You can expect a lot to come out about the subject matter next week.

4/2/2006 2:33:06 PM

I think it could be possible to get a great coach, yes he would be in the shadows of K and Roy, but at the same time he is on the doorstep to prove something to the rest of the country.

4/2/2006 2:54:06 PM

i just saw atsur riding his bike towards campus as i was leaving.

4/2/2006 2:56:42 PM

Quote :

"atsur will follow herb"

he couldn't if he wanted too, he only has one more year, and he would have to sit it out if he transfered.

4/2/2006 3:17:23 PM

^you are a dumbass. you don't lose a year of eligibility when you transfer, you just have to not play for a year. so yes, if he wanted to, he could.

4/2/2006 3:20:39 PM

We can only hope atsur will follow herb.

4/2/2006 3:22:59 PM

actually both of you are wrong

if a coach leaves u dont have to sit out a year, u can transfer i believe its to any school and not lose a single year

I know Florida has been lookin at a good # of our guys now that Herb is gone

[Edited on April 2, 2006 at 3:25 PM. Reason : d]

4/2/2006 3:24:32 PM

that is not true

4/2/2006 3:29:08 PM

The only people who can "transfer" without penalty would be the incoming class.... if our Athletic Department decided to release them from thier LOI.

4/2/2006 3:34:53 PM

Why the hell would they leave...i really doubt fells and grant liked playing the offense they were forced to play with Herb...just look at how much fun they had at the end of the 1st half of the texas game.

4/2/2006 3:40:28 PM

ahhh true true, thought at the time that were talkin about the new class

but i see now they actually kept to the thread topic, wow..amazing

4/2/2006 3:40:55 PM

The players loved Herb so much

They rolled over and died on him at the end of the season.


Er I'm sorry, I meant "injuries"

4/2/2006 3:53:17 PM