how shitty our fans treated our coach.


awesome

4/1/2006 11:04:36 PM

has ncsu ever had anything positive reported about fans

4/1/2006 11:05:35 PM

It wouldn't have been spun positively, regardless. Frankly, I don't give shit.

We made a 33 year old guy into a multimillionaire and got average results for 10 years. People are kidding themselves if they think he got a raw deal

[Edited on April 1, 2006 at 11:07 PM. Reason : dfsd]

4/1/2006 11:06:16 PM

No, I think he and Coach K are both right.

4/1/2006 11:07:10 PM

i want to be in a hostile work enviroment

4/1/2006 11:07:41 PM

Quote :

"Sendek leaving NC State to coach Arizona State Associated Press PHOENIX -- North Carolina State basketball coach Herb Sendek has accepted an offer to become the coach at Arizona State, an official with knowledge of the deal confirmed Saturday night. The official spoke on condition of anonymity because there has been no formal announcement. Arizona State athletic director Lisa Love, who attended the Sun Devils' spring football scrimmage Saturday in Tempe, was unavailable for comment. Sendek is 258-158 in 13 seasons as a head coach, the last 10 with North Carolina State, where he is 191-132. He spent his first three seasons with Miami of Ohio. Sendek led the Wolfpack to five straight NCAA Tournament appearances -- tying a school record set by the late Jim Valvano -- and reached the regional semifinals in last season. He has been named coach of the year in two conferences -- the Atlantic Coast Conference two years ago and the Mid-American Conference in 1995, when he coached at Miami of Ohio. The Sun Devils have been looking for a coach since March 10, when Love announced that Rob Evans would not return next season. Her first target reportedly was Pittsburgh's Jamie Dixon, who spoke with Sun Devils officials before accepting a contract extension from Pitt through 2012-13, at a significant pay raise. A few days later, Love's search took her to Milwaukee, where she met with former Utah coach Rick Majerus. She did not make him an offer. As she launched the search, Love said she was looking for candidates with college head coaching experience, NCAA Tournament success and familiarity with the West Coast. The 43-year-old Sendek was born in Pittsburgh and has not worked west of Lexington, Ky., where he served on Rick Pitino's staff at the University of Kentucky from 1989-93. Sendek also had been on Pitino's staff at Providence. But Sendek's résumé is filled with NCAA tourney experience, including an upset victory over Arizona in 1995 while at Miami of Ohio. In his second year as a head coach, Sendek led a No. 12 seed to a first-round victory over the fifth-seeded Wildcats, the school's first NCAA Tournament win since 1978. Arizona State has beaten Arizona, its archrival, once since 1995. After the 1996 season, Sendek left Miami for N.C. State. The Wolfpack failed to make the NCAA Tournament in Sendek's first five years but have made it each of the last five. This season, the Wolfpack drew a 10th seed, defeating seventh-seeded California in the first round before losing to second-seeded Texas. Despite the string of NCAA appearances, Sendek had come under criticism from Wolfpack fans, many of them angry at his 17-54 record against Duke, North Carolina and Wake Forest, the Wolfpack's three in-state ACC rivals. Duke coach Mike Krzyzewski understands better than most. He went 38-47 in his first three seasons with the Blue Devils and heard plenty of grumbling from fans, alumni and boosters, known as the Iron Dukes. "There are still some people I would never talk to from that," Coach K said nearly two weeks ago, when asked about Sendek's situation. "But I'll always talk to my president and my administration -- they didn't flinch. He's really one of the terrific coaches in our country. He's a proven winner. "Hopefully their people won't flinch, either." In the end, however, Sendek decided to leave on his own. "I can't say that I'm totally surprised, but I'm disappointed," said Mac Campbell Jr., president of the Wolfpack Club, the fundraising arm of the N.C. State athletic department. "I think it will be a good move for him. Herb is just a class individual.""

[Edited on April 1, 2006 at 11:17 PM. Reason : sd]

4/1/2006 11:16:40 PM

that paragraph says a lot

specifically

17-54

4/1/2006 11:18:45 PM

haha, they padded that stat by including wake

4/1/2006 11:19:52 PM

we lose to the best teams?

HOW OUTRAGEOUS

4/1/2006 11:20:31 PM

nm holy redundant batman

[Edited on April 1, 2006 at 11:20 PM. Reason : ]

4/1/2006 11:20:35 PM

If we hit a home run with the hire, this probably goes away. If we don't (more likely IMO) it is just going to get louder.

4/1/2006 11:23:55 PM

same thing they basically said on the news just now. and of course 3 douche' bags get on and reinforce what the sports guy said. high five guys

4/1/2006 11:25:14 PM

^^^^somebody suspend this fucking douche

[Edited on April 1, 2006 at 11:26 PM. Reason : .]

4/1/2006 11:26:09 PM

4/1/2006 11:36:39 PM

every story

4/1/2006 11:48:43 PM

^^?

4/1/2006 11:54:37 PM

Quote :

"He's a proven winner."

AAAAAAAAAHHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

lemme get some of that crack you & your lacrosse team is hittin'!

4/1/2006 11:55:01 PM

dont worry about what the media thinks

in fact, WHO GIVES A FUCK WHAT THE MEDIA THINKS

lets get a good coach, have a better team, and then the media can be on his nuts

(case in point a certain college football coaching change last year)

4/1/2006 11:56:24 PM

^let's try thinking a little bit

potential coaching canidates will care what the media thinks, and this could turn some off

4/2/2006 12:42:16 AM

let's just offer $2.5 mil to a REAL COACH and get a baller up in here

we have the money, let's do it big

4/2/2006 12:43:47 AM

^^ HS players also care what the media thinks

and their parents

they sure as fuck aren't gonna listen to the only contrary opinions, those of the fans that ran herb out of town on a rail

4/2/2006 12:45:17 AM

N & O wont be satisfied untill we win championships, in which case they will run the coach off for beating UNC too often.


The media never has anything good to say about us, so the coach can escape a lot of the media criticism....much the way sendek has. He took a lot of heat at the end there, but now all of the reporters are blaming the fans.....in perfect fucktard media fashion.

4/2/2006 12:45:54 AM

^ ^who cares? what's the alternative? HERB STAYING.

[Edited on April 2, 2006 at 12:46 AM. Reason : ^]

4/2/2006 12:46:15 AM

^ you are going to be SORELY DISAPPOINTED when we get someone from the MAC or CUSA or another midmajor

a lot of people will be

as Mr Grace said in some other thread, it's like quitting your job without another one lined up

[Edited on April 2, 2006 at 12:49 AM. Reason : -]

4/2/2006 12:48:12 AM

look outside of raleigh is going to care/talk about/even remember this once a new coach is in here doing his thing

its not like this is going to demage recruiting for the next 90 years, there is no curse of herb sendek...shit fucking happens

its time to move on...lets draw a few ncaa football comparisons....two schools fired "successful" coaches, hired new people, had good seasons, and had great recruiting campaigns....AMAZINGLY PEOPLE WANTED THE JOB AND KIDS STILL WANTED TO GO THERE

4/2/2006 12:51:01 AM

this is hardly notre dame

4/2/2006 12:52:32 AM

No Tally, I'm not.

I'll happily watch our guys w/o expectation next season because I know that if Herb stayed 20 more years we'd never hang a banner. We HAVE NOTHING TO LOSE.

[Edited on April 2, 2006 at 12:54 AM. Reason : nn]

4/2/2006 12:53:26 AM

or florida

but the point is still the same

nobody is going to fucking care once you get past this little transition time. this shit happens all the time

4/2/2006 12:53:29 AM

^^ are you saying that "anything is better than herb?"

and wait, now that herb is gone all the high expectations are gone too?

i thought that was the whole point.

[Edited on April 2, 2006 at 1:01 AM. Reason : -]

4/2/2006 1:00:35 AM

obviously we're heading for the final four...

4/2/2006 1:01:28 AM

Quote :

"obviously we're heading for the final four..."

its a step in the right direction, we're probably closer now than anytime in the past 10 years.

4/2/2006 1:08:18 AM

k

4/2/2006 1:29:08 AM

Obviously not "anything is better than Herb", but we can't get better 'til he leaves.

If our administration is smart, we hire a coach that's superior to Herb. Whether they do or not, is up to them. Anyway you cut it, it can't get any worse than 0 banners in 10 years.

4/2/2006 1:33:44 AM

oh i garuntee you it can.

4/2/2006 1:34:24 AM

you can't have fewer banners than zero.

you can sure as hell have fewer wins than we've had.

4/2/2006 1:36:54 AM

nobody cares about wins

Think anybody cares about LSU...now?

Nope. Nobody will remember their "final four run". Championships matter. Syracuse had a HORRIBLE season yet win the Big East Title. That speaks.

4/2/2006 1:38:47 AM

I care about losing to Clemson twice

4/2/2006 1:40:27 AM

great fucking job herb haters, people like you are the reason why we get no respect, great job running of the best b-ball coach weve had in years, now our b-ball program will suck ass for AT LEAST 5 more years, fuckin cuntrags

4/2/2006 1:41:59 AM

it would be awesome if all the people that pledged money to buy out sendek's contract started a trust to help get a baller coach

but thats not going to happen

4/2/2006 1:42:00 AM

next year should have no expectations, maybe the year after too

give the guy a year or so to settle and just be happy you aren't getting all hyped up like NCSU is gonna "win it this year!" only to get Herb'd

Quote :

"now our b-ball program will suck ass for AT LEAST 5 more years,"

I hate to alert you, but this is PRECISELY what would have happened w/ Herb here another 5 years. At least now there's a chance for that to not be the case.

[Edited on April 2, 2006 at 1:42 AM. Reason : .]

4/2/2006 1:42:08 AM

yeah, those last 3 seasons were real losers

4/2/2006 1:45:27 AM

pay me 800,000 a year and i'll let fans talk all the crap they want about how they hate me. I like herb but i think enough is enough and this is a welcome change. i just hope it doesn't change chris wright's decision to come here

4/2/2006 1:52:43 AM

HERB SENDEK IS NOT COMING BACK, SO STFU YOU WHINY LITTLE BITCHES

4/2/2006 1:55:25 AM

I mean shit...im so glad he left...so what...hes a average coach..NC State is supposed to be a power house in Basketball.

4/2/2006 3:04:45 AM

Quote :

"NC State is supposed to be a power house in Basketball."

O RLY?

4/2/2006 3:06:49 AM

Quote :

"yeah, those last 3 seasons were real losers"

Thanks captain obvious.

And yes, NC State should be a powerhouse. Less than 15 schools in D-1 history have 2+ National Titles. We're one of them. With the right coach we could perform just like UNC did (thanks to Smith) or Duke has (thanks to K). For awhile we were the team-to-beat on tobacco road.

4/2/2006 3:09:30 AM

There is almost always national media backlash when a coach is runoff/leaves. Life goes on.


Remember, the media is not there to have the best interests of your school at heart.

[Edited on April 2, 2006 at 6:39 AM. Reason : .]

4/2/2006 6:36:56 AM

http://www.newsobserver.com/122/story/424537.html

"Win-Win Situation for Sendek, Pack"

4/2/2006 7:55:14 AM

I read something talking about this somewhere earlier in the thread, but Im too lazy to quote it.

I was wondering, I would think coaches would expect that a large and fairly athletically competitive team like NC State would put high expectations on their coaches. It seems like a coach knows that they would be expected to win, especially against rivals (and thus memorable and more important games), and that if they didnt, of course they would come under fire. I think our players are good enough that it's not terribly difficult for us to get into the tournament, so I wouldnt imagine that it would be the difference between a mediocre coach and and great coach that would be able to treak and tune a team and its gameplay to get us to any kind of championship-level playing.
I think Herb's a good guy, and an alright coach. I think he could act well in bringing a shit team up do a decent standing, but I dont really think he has the coaching acumen necessary to really take good players to that next level and compete on the kind of levels required with the kind of team and players we have to work with.
So back to the original point. Someone said us being unhappy with Sendek would discourage other coaches from coming here. Do you think thats true? Personally, I feel like any coach would expect someone with a pretty bad rival record to be criticized on that level. I think any coach who would consider coming here would know these expectations, and not be scared or intimidated by them.

4/2/2006 12:04:15 PM

^^ not a bad article

4/2/2006 12:23:30 PM