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"I will soon post photographs of a "demonstration" (read: violent disruption) of Nick Lampson's news conference this morning in Sugar Land. Tom DeLay's campaign and a member of the State Republican Executive Committee called for volunteers to meet on the first floor of the parking garage and "wreck" Lampson's press conference. One elderly Democratic woman was slightly injured when she was assaulted by a DeLay protester. The male DeLay supporter first hit her in the face with a sign and then grabbed her hat and tried to pull it down over her eyes. Think about this: Your Congressman asked his supporters to go out and assault old women. Okay, "wreck" them. But, that's all right because one of the Democrats shoved the DeLay protestor away from the elderly woman. We ain't doing non-violent protests when it comes to protecting our elderly. "

http://www.brazosriver.com/

some pictures of the protest
http://www.brazosriver.com/april_6_nick_lampson_press_confe.htm

video of the woman getting her hat pulled over her face
http://www.brazosriver.com/marsha2.mpg

A direct quote from an email Chris Homan sent out --

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"We would meet tomorrow morning at 9:45 am on the first floor of the parking garage attached to the Marriott. Please get folks to call our campaign office 281.343.1333 and let us know they can do it – or e-mail Leonard Cash (in the cc field above) so that we can get some head count. Let’s give Lampson a parting shot that wrecks his press conference."

[Edited on April 7, 2006 at 11:48 AM. Reason : .]

4/7/2006 11:48:06 AM

its not their fault some asshat assaulted an old lady

4/7/2006 11:50:47 AM

I agree. they didn't tell them to go out and assault people. Nonetheless, they DID tell them to go out and wreck a press conference, and this is one person's way of doing that. What kind of politician tells people to do such a thing?

4/7/2006 12:02:28 PM

You're being way too histrionic.

This is like blaming a musician on stage for injuries in the crowd's mosh-pit.

4/7/2006 12:06:02 PM

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"they didn't tell them to go out and assault people. Nonetheless, they DID tell them to go out and wreck a press conference, and this is one person's way of doing that."

i'm not blaming them for the assault. personal responsibility is a factor in that. i'm blaming them for giving people the orders to "wreck" the press conference.

4/7/2006 12:07:02 PM

Once again, splitting hairs. Any rational person would assume he meant lawfully.

4/7/2006 12:09:30 PM

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"This is like blaming a musician on stage for injuries in the crowd's mosh-pit."

This is a little bit different, this is more like the musician saying, "hey look at that car, let's go have fun with it". Obviously he didn't directly tell that crowd to flip the car and set fire to it, but what he said pretty much caused it.

4/7/2006 12:21:47 PM

To me this sounds like what amounts to a protest got out of hand because ONE guy did something stupid.

BTW I fully condone knocking the old lady out, if and only if the guy screamed "MASTERSTROKE" when hitting her across the face with the sign

4/7/2006 12:24:30 PM

Yeah the guy was out of line for knocking that woman over, it's silly to lay that on whoever send out the email, but telling your guys to mess up a press conference of your opponent is a pretty shitty thing to do.

4/7/2006 12:27:18 PM

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"telling your guys to mess up a press conference of your opponent is a pretty shitty thing to do."

it wasn't that cool

However, the obvious association to be made here is that he somehow condoned the old-woman slaying

4/7/2006 12:30:13 PM

protesting is only ok if its for things that i agree with

4/7/2006 1:07:14 PM

Stay classy Sugarland.

4/7/2006 2:28:02 PM

^^ Protesting != Knocking Over Old Women

4/7/2006 2:30:00 PM

NO SHIT REALLY?1

4/7/2006 3:37:42 PM

Then apparently what this cat was doing wasn't protesting and thus, your statement is irrelevant to the thread.

Really.

4/7/2006 3:40:06 PM

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"This is like blaming a musician on stage for injuries in the crowd's mosh-pit."

It's more like that time that Fred Durst said "Let's burn this motherfucker down!" and then people started setting shit on fire.

4/7/2006 3:46:06 PM

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"Then apparently what this cat was doing wasn't protesting and thus, your statement is irrelevant to the thread. Really."

no my statement is very relevant, c'mon you are smarter than this

here i will walk you through it
1. nick lampson announces press conference
2. delay's campaign call for protesters to disrupt the press conference
3. protesters disrupt conference
4. one misguided asshat acting on his own douchebaggary slugs a woman

calling for a protest (something that while sometimes tasteless is certainly allowed and protected) is not calling for people to assault old women

trying to imply some kind of connection is retarded

4/7/2006 3:50:03 PM

I actually didn't see anywhere that DirtyGreek or anyone else claimed the protest wasn't ok.

Thus, your statement was irrelevant.

4/7/2006 3:59:32 PM

he wouldnt have made the thread if he didnt want to imply some degree of guilt

its pretty transparent, its not rocket science

4/7/2006 4:01:33 PM

Call me crazy, but it appears to me that he was pointing out that these protesters who were sent by the Delay campaign turned out to be thugs. Whether they were directed to be thugs is rather irrelevant, too. Doubly so, since it's a point DirtyGreek didn't make.

[Edited on April 7, 2006 at 4:06 PM. Reason : ...]

4/7/2006 4:05:46 PM

and thats not trying to imply some guilt how?

he was either trying to imply guilt, or criticizing a protest. my statement is actually more relevant for the latter.

4/7/2006 4:07:16 PM

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"JonHGuth: and thats not trying to imply some guilt how?"

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"DirtyGreek: they didn't tell them to go out and assault people. Nonetheless, they DID tell them to go out and wreck a press conference, and this is one person's way of doing that."

4/7/2006 4:08:41 PM

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"JonHGuth:protesting is only ok if its for things that i agree with"

4/7/2006 4:10:37 PM

And how do any of DirtyGreek's statements lead you to believe he doesn't think protesting in favor of a GOP position or against a DNP position is ok?

4/7/2006 4:16:22 PM

you're right, that flaming hippie is just against civil protest in general

4/7/2006 4:18:14 PM

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"Gamecat: And how do any of DirtyGreek's statements lead you to believe he doesn't think protesting in favor of a GOP position or against a DNP position is ok?"

4/7/2006 4:22:48 PM

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"you're right, that flaming hippie is just against civil protest in general"

4/7/2006 4:23:53 PM

And how do any of DirtyGreek's statements lead you to believe he doesn't think civil protesting is ok?

4/7/2006 4:28:57 PM

well i actually thought he was only criticizing one type of protesting because it was tom delay. you pointed out that he might also criticize protesting against a dnp position

4/7/2006 4:30:20 PM

And how do any of DirtyGreek's statements lead you to believe he doesn't think protesting in favor of a GOP position or against a DNP position is ok?

4/7/2006 4:31:48 PM

well he is criticizing these protesters

4/7/2006 4:48:24 PM

And how do any of DirtyGreek's statements lead you to believe he doesn't think protesting in favor of a GOP position or against a DNP position is ok?

4/8/2006 2:19:42 AM

I'm on the "It was a shitty thing for Delay's campaign to do" but "It wasn't his fault some jackass assaulted the hippie" and "Fred Durst is a douche" platform here.

4/8/2006 3:02:41 AM

I got an ulcer reading this thread.

4/8/2006 11:33:57 AM

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"I'm on the "It was a shitty thing for Delay's campaign to do" but "It wasn't his fault some jackass assaulted the hippie" and "Fred Durst is a douche" platform here."

only thing to add to this is that "the hammer" is also a douche.
otherwise, great platform.

4/8/2006 8:48:05 PM

That's pretty much where I've stood since I first read the article.

Calling JonHGuth on his unfounded mischaracterization of DirtyGreek's position was a sidenote.

4/8/2006 8:50:16 PM

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"DirtyGreek: Nonetheless, they DID tell them to go out and wreck a press conference, and this is one person's way of doing that. What kind of politician tells people to do such a thing?"

4/8/2006 9:26:17 PM

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"Gamecat: And how do any of DirtyGreek's statements lead you to believe he doesn't think protesting in favor of a GOP position or against a DNP position is ok?"

4/8/2006 9:32:24 PM