Franklin Co. Animal Control has eliminated the cruel gas chamber and now uses lethal injection to euthanize pets. I am sooo happy. The animals no longer have to suffer. They can rest in peace! My little girl Emma is still up for adoption by the way. She was rescued from this facility along with 3 other puppies when the gas chamber was still employed. She is 4 months now. Make sure to click on her photo gallery. I am updating her pictures soon! http://search.petfinder.com/petnote/displaypet.cgi?petid=5791629

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4/18/2006 11:22:45 PM

A little "did you know" section from the website. http://www.spcafc.org/animalcontrol.htm


North Carolina euthanized over 885,453 potentially adoptable animals from 1996-2000.



Franklin County euthanized over 2,680 in 2004 at a cost to taxpayers of $200,069.



An estimate of 95% of that were adoptable.

4/18/2006 11:31:00 PM

Nevermind

[Edited on April 18, 2006 at 11:36 PM. Reason : nevermind]

4/18/2006 11:36:21 PM

if they actually were adoptable they probably would have been adopted

or maybe im just naive and they actually are that sadistic that they go gassing puppies for giggles

4/18/2006 11:45:33 PM

adobtable simply means they pass the aggression test

they can still be ugly, deformed, or gimpish

no one will adopt shitty animals

4/18/2006 11:50:11 PM

given time a good majority of the animals that pass through the shelters could be adopted, but the shelters run out of space

^ what was that dog.. voted the world's ugliest, think he recently passed.. but his owner loved him.. to each his/her own, but there is a great likelyhood that there is a match for all dogs.. and there were very few "ugly, deformed, or gimpish" dogs when I volunteered in the Orange County Shelter while in high school..

I think it is a two week stay limit, and unless they're a really nice dog they're put down..

what was the reasoning for the gas room in the first place? I would think lethal injection would be cheaper, and it seems to be costs that runs the majority of decisions.. esp. in places with limited funding like animal shelters..

4/18/2006 11:57:29 PM

Most animals at shelters are great. The problem is that there are so many animals at shelters, and so few people who are actually willing to go to a shelter to get a pet--they would rather get a kitten or a puppy from their friend, who's cat/dog just had a litter.
Instead of doing that, please try to get your next pet from an animal shelter! You'll definitely be saving their life.

4/19/2006 9:44:58 AM

Saying that if they were adoptable then they would get adopted is a crock! There are hundreds of wonderful dogs and cats at shelters that die everyday b/c people think that shelter animals are trash. All of my animals are rescues and they are all wonderful animals! People are also under the false impression that only mixed animals are at shelters. This is wrong as well. Shelters house animals of all ages, pure bred animals, and mixed animals. Some "breeders" will drop off whole litters of full blooded animals to shelters or will "retire" their breeding stock to shelters. Franklin Co is a huge county with many animals! they don't kill the animals for giggles, but b/c there just isn't enough room. They only have like 10 runs for dogs and a few cat cages. The reason why they gas is b/c they could just throw in a lot of dogs at one time and knock them out quickly.

4/19/2006 9:53:50 AM

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"The problem is that there are so many animals at shelters, and so few people who are actually willing to go to a shelter to get a pet--they would rather get a kitten or a puppy from their friend, who's cat/dog just had a litter."

The problem is there are more dependents than there are people willing to take on dependents. Just reshuffling who gets pets from where wouldn’t solve that problem. A successful campaign to get people not to take any pets from their friends litter would only result in more animals heading to shelters from the friends who can’t get rid of the dependents any other way.

And I’m all for having less painful deaths for animals. But being “sooo happy” that puppies and kitties can be killed b/c they’re unwanted in a less painful way is still being killed b/c they’re unwanted.

“They can rest in peace!”
Atleast that’s true… all dogs do go to heaven.

4/19/2006 10:50:37 AM

The animals in Franklin County no longer have to suffer when they die. A great evil has been banished from the world.

4/19/2006 10:57:44 AM

i heard a long time ago that lethal injection felt like you were buring from the inside out...

they wont have to suffer...

4/19/2006 11:03:49 AM

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"The animals no longer have to suffer. They can rest in peace! "

PLEASE tell me what part of the gas chamber makes the animal suffer? It just makes them fall asleep and die - ohhhh the suffering. It's not like they gag up bile and bleed to death.

People are entirely oversenstive to this whole gas chamber thing.

4/19/2006 11:13:14 AM

When they are killed by lethal injection they go to sleep. it is quick and seems painless. Of course we will never know b/c the animal can't speak and all people killed this way, die and can't tell us. It seems peaceful unlike the gas where they scream until they die.
as far as the friends' litters. If people would sterilize their pets and only allow show or working animals to reproduce, then we wouldn't have the problems.

4/19/2006 11:15:11 AM

if you are referring to people rather than animals in "screaming when they die" then duh, of course they do. they "know" they are dying. they are screaming because of that.

but sure, i'm all for not causing animals added pain (i don't really see the gas chamber doing that tho). the real issue is people's lack of responsibility. if you can't care for the pups, get your animal spayed or neutered before that is an issue. if you cannot financially take care of an animal, vet bills and all, don't get one.

4/19/2006 12:41:38 PM

i was talking about the animals screaming when they were dying.

4/19/2006 12:51:58 PM

^makes me think of this dead bird pic
http://themot.org/gallery/d/845-1/noobird.jpg

4/19/2006 2:31:53 PM

look, it makes NO difference WHAT SO EVER if I get a cat from a shelter or from a litter my friend has. if my friend doesn't get rid of their kittens, where do you think they will end up anyway?

4/19/2006 3:43:50 PM

They used the gas chamber because it's more efficient, you can kill off 10 dogs at once instead of injecting them one at a time. Also it means that the shelter employees don't need direct contact to put down dangerous/agressive dogs.

4/19/2006 4:05:42 PM

the people who support lethal injection apparently want to drive out the good employees by making them deal with dangerous animals up close & making them more emotionally screwed up by having to kill them directly, & make the animals die alone away from other animals.

They can rest in peace! after gas or lethal injection. Dead is dead. Its cold & uneventful for animals after they die regardless of how it happens. If theres less pain in the killing process then its a good thing, but still not something to get happy over.

4/19/2006 4:11:48 PM

^ shut up please

there is reason to get excited over this. its a more humane way to put animals to sleep. 5 BILLION dogs and cats are put to sleep everyear. the reason Franklin Animal Control (AC) had a gas chamber versus lethal injection was because its CHEAPER. the AC is located at a landfill and is extremely outdated. they only have 12 runs and one cat kennel. I've been there when it was extremely overcrowded with 30 + animals including 3 litters of puppies. once the AC is full they start putting animals down immediately. they could put multiple animals in the chamber at once. including litters of puppies. the animals are freaking out, clawing, and doing damage to themselves and others. the gas takes signicantly longer and doesnt always get all the animals in the first go around. so its an agonizing traumatic experience for any livng creature to go through. if you have a compassionate bone in your body you must feel some pity for these animals. would you like to die this way?

but who cares. no one wants them and they're gonna die anyways.




i've pulled (and helped others pull) 12 puppies from here. those puppie were scheduled to be gassed that day if no one came to adopt them. all but 1 (emma) have been adopted into great homes.


and if it was so simple to convince people to spay/neuter their pets we wouldnt have this problem.


[Edited on April 19, 2006 at 6:24 PM. Reason : s]

4/19/2006 6:14:43 PM

it's true.

there is emotional labor in lethal injection.

we sure care a lot about dogs/cats.

what happened to fighting for the rest of the animal kingdom?

[Edited on April 19, 2006 at 6:25 PM. Reason : .]

4/19/2006 6:25:01 PM

http://www.petatv.com/tvpopup/video.asp?video=yadkin_county&Player=wm&speed=_med



got to that website and tell me that isnt a cruel way to die....

4/19/2006 6:32:57 PM

i'm all in favor of loving animals, and caring about their comfort...until a certain point.

They're gonna die. If part of the reason that they're going to die is lack of space/funding/staffing, switching to a more expensive and labor-intensive method of extermination doesn't seem like the wisest course of action.

Then again, what do I know? I'm not someone who thinks I can change the world just by caring intensely.

If this was something that mattered to you, congratulations. Whatever makes you happy and feel less burdened...just don't expect everyone else to be as happy as you are

4/19/2006 7:12:05 PM

Haha you people that complain about gas chambers should shift focus from shelters to YOUR OWN UNIVERSITY. Do you even realize the amount of animals gased a day right here on campus? No you don't. Because chickens and quail aren't cute and cuddly.

Y'all think you are such animal lovers but you need to broaden your horizons. Get involved on your own campus if you are so self righteous. And fix the 'tude you all have in this thread because you are just going to drive people away from adopting with a higher-than-thou attitude that you are broadcasting in this thread.


By the way, I'm not saying I disagree with gasing avian species like they do in Scott Hall pretty much every week, if not daily. A lot of good research has come from there that you ALL benefit from.


And on a side note, you all must have NEVER had to hold an animal still while you inject them. They still know they are dying and they still cry, only this time, they are in your arms. Yeah, that's a lot better.

[Edited on April 19, 2006 at 8:01 PM. Reason : add]

4/19/2006 7:58:41 PM

actually lethal injection and gassing costs about the same once they're being used in a facility

a gas chamber costs more to build and implement than injection (start up costs)

but injection requires some training. (not much.. a vet basically teaches the staff how to do it correctly and determine dosages) (time consuming)

so it evens out.

regardless the place is still a kill-shelter. the unwanted animals will still be put down once space runs out. there arent enough people looking for animals in shelters (or anywhere for that matter)
luckily this control facilty has received more attention due to the facts that 1) it gassed and 2) the county its in and lack of resources the facility has.


I feel like i'm doing my part to help. I'm in contact with the 2 main volunteers who maintain the petfinder website for franklin county. they take pictures and put them online and contact rescue organizations and people (like me) who can help in pulling and transport and such. i'm also a member on a few online groups.


yea i felt horrible when i gassed chickens in Carms class. and i dont think their life is any less valuable than a dog or cat.... its just their purpose is different. not that poultry cant make good pets too.

and i apologize if i seem like i have an attitude. its just that i've been involved with Franklin County AC and have helped push for legislation dealing with gassing animals.


and as far as lethal injection. i've held quite a few animals for vets and held my own cat who had to be put down. it broke my heart. and its just as hard because the animals have the same fate. but the experience of lethal injection is much favorable to gassing.

[Edited on April 19, 2006 at 8:09 PM. Reason : g]

4/19/2006 8:00:27 PM

animals are animals.

4/19/2006 8:10:15 PM

but they're still dead

4/19/2006 8:39:51 PM

who the fuck cares if they are gassed. once they die it doesn't matter how they died. same goes for humans too, btw. i'm not biased

4/19/2006 8:46:56 PM

"^ shut up please"

Oh, we're doing this then.

NO, you shut up!

[Edited on April 20, 2006 at 4:54 PM. Reason : .]

4/20/2006 4:53:46 PM

Quote :

"who the fuck cares if they are gassed. once they die it doesn't matter how they died."

4/20/2006 5:17:05 PM

I've never gassed mammals, but I have a poultry degree so I've been around a lot of birds being gassed. it is a very quick death.

4/20/2006 6:24:25 PM

I grew up in franklin county...the people who lived across from us had their house condemned and left, leaving an unneutered male cat unspayed female dog, after two years their was a wild dog pack running the neighborhood, killing my family pets, and others, constantly reproducing. The cats have slowed down because my mother has started catching them, spaying them, and releasing them, but they are still there. The reason their are so many dogs and cats are in shelters is not because of pet stores and back yard breeders. It is irresponsible people.

4/20/2006 7:07:43 PM

^pet store employees and back yard breeders ARE irresponsible people. i don't think there's wild packs of dogs and cats running around in big cities, but they have tons of animals in shelters...

4/20/2006 7:32:04 PM

^^^

But you can't exactly compare an avian response to the mammalian though. What with the air sacs and such. I've never seen a mammal put down with gas but I have heard it takes much longer and the process is stressful. It's depressing to both make them suffer and then kill them.

4/20/2006 7:38:45 PM

Quote :

"They can rest in peace! after gas or lethal injection. Dead is dead. Its cold & uneventful for animals after they die regardless of how it happens. If theres less pain in the killing process then its a good thing, but still not something to get happy over."

4/20/2006 7:55:36 PM

For those of you who are not interested in animal welfare why are you posting? This thread is suppose to be celebratory & educational for animal lovers. Like my Mom use to say "if you don't have anything nice to say, then dont say it at all."

Pictures of Emma taken at Fletcher Park today!


flower girl


Cute spotted tounge!


Tug-a-war!


She plays well with other dogs.

http://www.brentroad.com/photos/00453559.jpg[/image]
Being snuggly with my kitty.



[Edited on April 20, 2006 at 9:40 PM. Reason : .]

4/20/2006 9:11:43 PM

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"if my friend doesn't get rid of their kittens, where do you think they will end up anyway? "

4/20/2006 10:25:21 PM

Franklin County has 2 Momma dogs each with 6 pups.

http://search.petfinder.com/petnote/displaypet.cgi?petid=6130001
http://search.petfinder.com/petnote/displaypet.cgi?petid=6130252

And one hound very pregnant & about to give birth to a litter
http://search.petfinder.com/petnote/displaypet.cgi?petid=6129938

And ooooh my goodness look at this little furball!
http://search.petfinder.com/petnote/displaypet.cgi?petid=6124941

4/20/2006 10:28:42 PM