msbncsu All American 720 Posts user info edit post |
I picked up a Yamaha seca II (xj600) today and damn if it doesn't redline in fith gear around 75mph. Could it possibly have come stock this way? I don't see how, but the only thing I can think of is someone changed sprockets, but why? It rides fine, but it sucks to not even be able to keep up with traffic on the beltline on a bike. I've done a few online searches, but haven't come up with much about this bike, so does anyone have any ideas as to what to do? 5/2/2006 9:41:39 PM |
abbradsh All American 2418 Posts user info edit post |
http://www.motorbike-search-engine.co.uk/classic_bikes/yamaha_classic.html
lists it as 130mph 5/2/2006 10:01:08 PM |
msbncsu All American 720 Posts user info edit post |
that's what I thought too.......... but I was wrong, at first I thought I was still in 4th, but was definately in 5th already. 5/2/2006 10:04:52 PM |
Igor All American 6672 Posts user info edit post |
check if you still got the stock size srpockets (count the number of teeth on both sprockets)
the chances are the previous owner regeared it for betrer acceleration 5/2/2006 10:48:32 PM |
msbncsu All American 720 Posts user info edit post |
I'm going to check it tomorrow, but where would I find the stock numbers? 5/2/2006 10:50:21 PM |
JBaz All American 16764 Posts user info edit post |
http://member.melbpc.org.au/~tjhudson/page5.htm that says 117mph and says it has a 6th gear... 5/2/2006 10:52:59 PM |
Incognegro Suspended 4172 Posts user info edit post |
lol, have you tried to shift up to 6? 5/2/2006 10:53:47 PM |
toyotafj40s All American 8649 Posts user info edit post |
rofls, hey it's broke give it to me. my gsxr had a low top speed from aftermarket sprockets too. thus why i put the my new r6 back to stock . 5/2/2006 10:58:59 PM |
JBaz All American 16764 Posts user info edit post |
haha, new... my ass. 5/2/2006 11:01:29 PM |
msbncsu All American 720 Posts user info edit post |
http://www.totalmotorcycle.com/motorcyclespecshandbook/yamaha/1993-yamaha-XJ600DiversionS.htm
everything I've read up until the last two posts have said 5 gears, I definately tried to keep shifting up its a 1993 by the way, in case that makes a difference 5/2/2006 11:02:04 PM |
Igor All American 6672 Posts user info edit post |
16/48 sprockets for 92-03 according to kneedraggers.com 5/2/2006 11:06:17 PM |
toyotafj40s All American 8649 Posts user info edit post |
new to me. took down a srt4 today yay hahahahhaha 5/2/2006 11:08:08 PM |
JBaz All American 16764 Posts user info edit post |
I thought they had 5 gears, but that one website I found seemed fishy. 5/2/2006 11:46:01 PM |
anonymous All American 9627 Posts user info edit post |
my dad has the same bike couldnt tell you top speed or #gears i havent driven it and he is a slow ass driver so im sure he doesnt even know how fast it will go 5/3/2006 3:03:21 AM |
WMVlad007 All American 1212 Posts user info edit post |
jon had exact bike last year, his would hit at least a 100. i'll get back to you when i find out exactly where it topped. 5/3/2006 7:49:29 AM |
Woodfoot All American 60354 Posts user info edit post |
at what point are you shifting? at what RPMs are you redlining?
i mean, i can do 75 in second on my gs, around 11k
you gotta get up in that shit son 5/3/2006 10:04:10 AM |
msbncsu All American 720 Posts user info edit post |
actually, it does have 6 gears, so in 6th with it at redline according to the tach ~10krpms its at 70mph. I checked the rear sprocket today and its has 48 stamped on it, so its stock. I'm waiting right now for it to cool to get to the front sprocket to see if its stock. I'm amazed at this, it sucks honestly. 5/3/2006 4:42:42 PM |
Woodfoot All American 60354 Posts user info edit post |
dude
maybe one of your spark plugs isn't firing or something
thats absurd
you don't weight like 500 pounds do you? 5/3/2006 4:48:25 PM |
msbncsu All American 720 Posts user info edit post |
nope, 210lbs as of this morning. Absurd is pretty much how I feel, I'm going to go dig into it again and see what I can find 5/3/2006 4:59:23 PM |
Igor All American 6672 Posts user info edit post |
weight does not affect top speed unless you fat enough to create significantly larger frontal area 5/3/2006 6:18:04 PM |
abbradsh All American 2418 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "fat enough to create significantly larger frontal area" |
5/3/2006 6:33:18 PM |
JBaz All American 16764 Posts user info edit post |
perhaps your speed sensor isn't right. May say only 70mph, but you could be going 100mph. Get someone else to help you see if your going the right speed. 5/3/2006 7:46:10 PM |
slowblack96 All American 4999 Posts user info edit post |
well after reading this post i decided to go out and top my 00 yamaha R1 out in fith gear and it got to 153 at 10000 rpm still had 2k to go but i had to jump on the breaks. 5/3/2006 7:47:38 PM |
beethead All American 6513 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "new to me. took down a srt4 today yay hahahahhaha" |
Quote : | "get the srt4 raced one on the r6, it didnt win but it was fun!" |
http://thewolfweb.com/message_topic.aspx?topic=406183
well, which one is it??5/3/2006 7:54:31 PM |
Igor All American 6672 Posts user info edit post |
id you ever find if yours have a 6-speed tranny? cause some of them defenitely came with a 6 speed. 5/3/2006 8:02:56 PM |
cdubya All American 3046 Posts user info edit post |
^^ those sure seem to be saying the same thing to me. granted, he needs to learn when to use commas... but yeah
[Edited on May 3, 2006 at 8:39 PM. Reason : .] 5/3/2006 8:39:05 PM |
toyotafj40s All American 8649 Posts user info edit post |
nah ur right the srt pwned the r6 i couldnt keep up wit all dat boost 5/3/2006 8:51:50 PM |
beethead All American 6513 Posts user info edit post |
lol.. i must have stared at the computer too much today.. i cant even read right...
on a side note, i saw a SRT that would have given you a run for you money at the drag strip last weekend. 5/3/2006 8:59:09 PM |
JBaz All American 16764 Posts user info edit post |
kyle, damnit. Learn how to use the comma and a period. They are your friend... 5/3/2006 9:30:31 PM |
msbncsu All American 720 Posts user info edit post |
Ok, definately 6 gears (and yes, i shifted into 6th), stock sprockets and the speedometer couldn't possibly be off by 40 miles per hour.
Any other ideas? At this point I kinda just want to drive it off a bridge 5/3/2006 10:12:40 PM |
Igor All American 6672 Posts user info edit post |
i can prolly look at it tomorrow evening or friday or something holla 5/3/2006 10:30:00 PM |
Jeepman All American 5882 Posts user info edit post |
i'll buy it fo 2 dollaz! 5/3/2006 10:37:58 PM |
JBaz All American 16764 Posts user info edit post |
Never know, those olds bikes should have a mechanical speed sensor located on the front forks. It might not be rotating correct or something to that effect. 5/4/2006 3:18:45 PM |
toyotafj40s All American 8649 Posts user info edit post |
i wish the hawk had a 6th gear.. sob 5/4/2006 5:15:28 PM |
ECTurboGSX Veteran 185 Posts user info edit post |
If you are redlining it in 6th gear, regardless of weight/wind resistance/etc, the gearing is still the same and you should be at the stock top speed as long as the gearing is stock. The only explination is that your gearing has been changed by a large amount or your speedo is off by a lot. 5/5/2006 1:12:12 AM |
msbncsu All American 720 Posts user info edit post |
did they make a different gear set for the transmission? Because the sprockets are stock, so that's the only thing left that I could be as far as gearing is concerned 5/5/2006 5:09:43 AM |
Mark VII All American 2003 Posts user info edit post |
Could be jetted horribly and jsut not making any power?
I know I had a size too large main jet for awhile, and at WOT it would only go 80, if I used part throttle I could ease it up to 100+
[Edited on May 5, 2006 at 7:04 AM. Reason : .] 5/5/2006 7:04:28 AM |
ECTurboGSX Veteran 185 Posts user info edit post |
When you made this top speed run, did you actually run it all the way to redline? The point is that if the engine is spinning a certain speed, the gearing is spinning a certain speed, and the rear tire is spinning a certain speed, all of which are independent of power output, drag, etc. The only way to be going slower in this case is to have the rear tire in a constant slip which I don't think was happening here. Did you let Igor take a look at it yet? 5/5/2006 9:22:25 AM |
msbncsu All American 720 Posts user info edit post |
so i think I figured out what the problem is, the clutch was adjusted too far, so I loosened it up and it would easily do 100, so I rode it around a little bit and when I got gas I adjusted it back some. It ran fine for maybe 5 miles and while on the beltline I looked down the tach was way past redline, so i limped it home and no matter what i adjusted the clutch to it was back to how it was originally.
so, at least I know what it is, any ideas on why it all of a sudden went back to how it was after it rode fine for a few miles? 5/6/2006 1:33:09 PM |
ECTurboGSX Veteran 185 Posts user info edit post |
You may need to get a new clutch pack. That is pretty crazy if your clutch is slipping that much. Once it is to that point, a good chance that adjustments aren't going to do anything. 5/6/2006 1:55:33 PM |
ZXPhantom New Recruit 7 Posts user info edit post |
my first bike was a 92 xj600, it did pretty good but it wouldn't do more than about 120 wound all the way out in 6th 5/9/2006 2:17:37 AM |
1 All American 2599 Posts user info edit post |
120 >> 75 5/9/2006 10:52:46 AM |