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http://www.wral.com/news/9163901/detail.html

[Edited on May 4, 2006 at 10:36 PM. Reason : .]

5/4/2006 10:35:35 PM

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http://www.wral.com/news/9163901/detail.html

5/4/2006 10:37:48 PM

nastoute
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you have sex with a girl, who's not your girlfriend, who's too drunk

you're asking for trouble

5/4/2006 10:56:29 PM

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"This latest investigation comes just days after a stinging report about the drinking culture among Duke students"


As opposed to all the other dry campuses right?

5/4/2006 10:56:56 PM

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5/4/2006 11:10:13 PM

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Impaired consent is no consent...

Bottom line, don't have sex with drunk bitches, they can always claim rape.

5/4/2006 11:19:26 PM

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Bottom line, don't have sex with drunk bitches, they can will always claim rape.

5/4/2006 11:23:13 PM

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"Bottom line, don't have sex with drunk bitches, they can always claim rape"

why doesn't this law, & ones like it that imply women are weaker, bother women more? saying they are the only sex able to be mentally impaired by alcohol, they are the only sex that can be raped (men can only be sexually assaulted - a lessor offence legally), they are the only sex thats not required to sign up for the draft, they are the only sex banned from the special forces, etc

5/4/2006 11:28:52 PM

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^ I always figured it was like how affirmative action victimizes minority groups. Even if it does this, because those laws are an advantage to those groups, most people who are receiving benefits from them will just ignore the implications of the laws and go on with their lives. Ignorance is bliss, I guess.

[Edited on May 4, 2006 at 11:42 PM. Reason : -]

5/4/2006 11:41:45 PM

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I thought this mean the got another girl preggers

5/4/2006 11:53:03 PM

Muzition00
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"If ignorance is bliss, then smack the smile off my face."

5/5/2006 12:10:13 AM

Grapehead
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women are ok with the double standard when it benefits them.

duh.

5/5/2006 8:20:23 AM

abonorio
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yep. If the double standard helps them, fuck equality. They don't really want that anyway. They just want it to where they have all the "good rights" that men have, not "all rights" that men have.


With rights comes responsibility.

5/5/2006 9:18:44 AM

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this is just a thought/question...when did the law get revised that stated if a woman was drunk/had alcohol in her system that it was considered rape b/c she's not of sound mind to give consent? i'm wondering if it coincides with the rise of date rape drugs.

5/5/2006 9:25:02 AM

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"why doesn't this law, & ones like it that imply women are weaker, bother women more?"


i don't think that a law saying "if you're drunk, your judgement is impaired" implies weakness, it's true of both sexes. for instance, i'm pretty sure if you sign a contract when you're drunk or drugged, it's not legally binding.

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"saying they are the only sex able to be mentally impaired by alcohol"


what?? no. the law doesn't imply that. men get DUIs, too.

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"they are the only sex that can be raped (men can only be sexually assaulted - a lessor offence legally)"


i'm pretty skeptical of the truth of this statement. i bet if you were sodomized against your will, you could press rape charges.

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"they are the only sex thats not required to sign up for the draft, they are the only sex banned from the special forces, etc"


yes, this is bull shit.

5/5/2006 9:55:38 AM

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"i bet if you were sodomized against your will, you could press rape charges."


Nope. In North Carolina, you can only be raped through the pussy. Everything else is sexual assault.

5/5/2006 10:07:14 AM

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if you videotape
she can't say rape

5/5/2006 10:25:18 AM

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"themetr0: Bottom line, don't have sex with drunk bitches, they can will always claim rape."


AHA, themetr0 doesn't know shit about women or college. They will always claim rape???

5/5/2006 10:44:56 AM

Oskar
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N.C. General Statute 14-27.2 on First Degree Rape.
http://www.ncleg.net/EnactedLegislation/Statutes/HTML/BySection/Chapter_14/GS_14-27.2.html

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"ยง 14-27.2. First-degree rape.

(a) A person is guilty of rape in the first degree if the person engages in vaginal intercourse:

(1) With a victim who is a child under the age of 13 years and the defendant is at least 12 years old and is at least four years older than the victim; or

(2) With another person by force and against the will of the other person, and:

a. Employs or displays a dangerous or deadly weapon or an article which the other person reasonably believes to be a dangerous or deadly weapon; or

b. Inflicts serious personal injury upon the victim or another person; or

c. The person commits the offense aided and abetted by one or more other persons.

(b) Any person who commits an offense defined in this section is guilty of a Class B1 felony.

(c) Upon conviction, a person convicted under this section has no rights to custody of or rights of inheritance from any child born as a result of the commission of the rape, nor shall the person have any rights related to the child under Chapter 48 or Subchapter 1 of Chapter 7B of the General Statutes. (1979, c. 682, s. 1; 1979, 2nd Sess., c. 1316, s. 4; 1981, c. 63; c. 106, ss. 1, 2; c. 179, s. 14; 1983, c. 175, ss. 4, 10; c. 720, s. 4; 1994, Ex. Sess., c. 22, s. 2; 2004-128, s. 7.)"



well... that's dumb.

5/5/2006 10:51:16 AM

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take a photo of her topless and smiling before the sex0r and youll be fine.

5/5/2006 11:10:41 AM

themetr0
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"AHA, themetr0 doesn't know shit about women or college. They will always claim rape??? "


Women are different from "drunk bitches."

5/5/2006 11:10:53 AM

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You still don't know shit about women or college. Getting drunk and doing stupid shit is pretty common. Most girls' reactions: "Man, I drank too much. Never gonna do that again." But for some reason, themetr0, you're asserting that all girls claim rape in this situation. That's just not true. Don't be a fool.

[Edited on May 5, 2006 at 11:20 AM. Reason : ]

5/5/2006 11:15:53 AM

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"Based on the Duke University police Web site, the accuser admitted she was drunk and could not provide too many details of what happened leading up to the alleged attack."

suprise! WHAT THE FUCK IS WRONG WITH WOMEN?!

5/5/2006 12:26:56 PM

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"WRAL obtained a copy of the search warrant used to seize property from the west campus dorm room of the alleged attacker. Police seized a laptop computer, camera phone, liqueur, clothes and other items."


I don't think anyone else noticed this but...I wonder if they seized liquor or liqueur like the article says, cause if the latter is the case then that was one faggoty ass party.

5/5/2006 12:30:49 PM

elkaybie
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well amarretto, limoncello, kahlua, bailey's irish creme, midori, frangelico, and aftershock are all liqueurs

and those can make some fierce drinks or are good stand alones

5/5/2006 12:45:07 PM

superchevy
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the point is that they guy apparently only had liqeur. that is gay.

5/5/2006 1:00:55 PM

elkaybie
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jaeger's a liqueur

is that gay?

5/5/2006 1:02:58 PM

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^ as a pride parade

5/5/2006 1:13:44 PM

superchevy
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yes, if you only have jaeger. "only" is the key word here.

actually, jaeger isn't a liqeur. it is a liquor. i know.

[Edited on May 5, 2006 at 1:19 PM. Reason : ]

5/5/2006 1:18:35 PM

RattlerRyan
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if they had seized liquor and liqueur than that's one thing, but it only says liqueur

then again I realize it's not like they put every single thing in the article, but you get my point

I did not know jaeger was considered a liqueur, that's interesting

5/5/2006 1:18:40 PM

elkaybie
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yep, it is an herbal liqueur!

maybe they didn't seize the red bull

5/5/2006 1:31:05 PM

mildew
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he should file charges on her for the same thing.

5/6/2006 12:57:02 AM

Fermat
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wrong wrong wrong wrong wrong

the bottom line here is to never do anything ever
that's just asking for trouble

thats actually the useless gist of the false rape claim

if you win, so what? some guy gets put in prison and turned into a truly dangerous individual

and if you don't win, chances are you've hit the fucking jackpot.

Aside from the possible change in moods or simply changing her mind that leads to fake rape accusations being at it's core nothing more than a malicious "i could get away with it" type of mentallity.. aside from how disturbing that is, what's ten times more disturbing is the fact that there is NO way change the outcome of these situations.
There simply isn't any better way of doing things.
The only tool left would be to discourage and "sorta hint at" the fact that falsly claiming rape is absolutely just as bad as commiting rape. Which it is.
And the mere suggestion of this would be attacked by the high-financed special interest groups to whom the mass media have already surrendered.
And we've seen first hand here within just this last week how much impact media portrayal and spin can "effect" their own justice system, into which, Law, Reason and a sense of "right and wrong" are ALL subjigated

5/6/2006 1:39:53 AM

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"for instance, i'm pretty sure if you sign a contract when you're drunk or drugged, it's not legally binding."


not true at all. The law is pretty complex to get into but its definitely not a way to get out of contract law easily

5/6/2006 1:44:15 AM

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"falsly claiming rape is absolutely just as bad as commiting rape"

5/6/2006 8:00:18 AM

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getting it up is considered enough consent for guys so that we can't be raped

5/6/2006 9:22:53 AM

puck_it
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southern comfort is a liqueur, and that shit comes in 100 proof. not everything is 20-30% by volume

5/6/2006 10:49:37 AM

spaced guy
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^^ interesting point...but what if you're chained down?

5/6/2006 2:44:57 PM

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"getting it up is considered enough consent for guys so that we can't be raped"

fuck dude, who hasn't had an erection when they didn't particularly want one at the time? hell, guys get them in their damn sleep like every night.

5/6/2006 3:21:59 PM

spaced guy
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yeah it's pretty much a reflex

5/6/2006 3:37:01 PM

bous
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i get them every time i see jackleg.

is this bad?

5/6/2006 10:55:30 PM

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"getting it up is considered enough consent for guys so that we can't be raped"


can't be raped by another guy in the butt, which doesn't require wood on your own part?<!--

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5/7/2006 1:02:10 AM

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