J8ke Veteran 429 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | ""Guys have been worrying about who was going to be the coach. When it was (West Virginia coach John) Beilein, it was like 'Oh no, it's Herb all over again'," Grant said. "I am a New York City kid, I need the up-tempo ... getting to the basket and taking shots we weren't able to take last year."" |
Quote : | " RALEIGH — From the moment new N.C. State basketball coach Sidney Lowe stepped on the stage at Saturday's news conference, the differences were obvious.
Lowe, a veteran of the 1983 championship team, made jokes. He smiled, laughed and talked of family and glory days.
In short, he was everything that former coach Herb Sendek was not.
"Do I really need to answer that?" Gavin Grant said when asked the difference between Sendek and Lowe. "Coach Lowe is like a complete transformation, nothing like Herb Sendek ... Coach Lowe gives it to you real but he's cool and down to earth. He played, so most of the guys can relate to him."" |
5/7/2006 10:13:17 AM |
PimpinHonda All American 4331 Posts user info edit post |
i can't wait for basketball season 5/7/2006 10:18:14 AM |
ohmy All American 3875 Posts user info edit post |
^^haha, ouch.
^and that's the worst part about it...i cannot wait this long...the offseason's going to be torture 5/7/2006 10:22:24 AM |
Probasesteal All American 10307 Posts user info edit post |
at least Gavin didn't sound like a dumbass 5/7/2006 10:26:38 AM |
skokiaan All American 26447 Posts user info edit post |
He needs to chill out with the public airing of dirty laundry. Show some loyalty and class. If he wants to talk about that stuff, wait until he is long gone. 5/7/2006 10:28:05 AM |
J8ke Veteran 429 Posts user info edit post |
^how would it be classier after he was gone? 5/7/2006 10:28:29 AM |
J8ke Veteran 429 Posts user info edit post |
Ced gets in a coupleshots
Quote : | "“Me getting a lot of shots?” Simmons quipped Saturday. "But me getting a lot of shots would be a step up from last year and nine shots a game."
“It could be kind of like a head start,” Simmons said. “He knows what it takes to get to the league. He can look at my game and tell me what I need to work on to make myself better, to put myself in a better situation.”" |
[Edited on May 7, 2006 at 10:30 AM. Reason : tag fix]5/7/2006 10:29:46 AM |
skokiaan All American 26447 Posts user info edit post |
^^ time does mitigate how much of a blow it is to sendek. he still shouldnt say anything about it at all, though.
It's pretty clear that everything we sensed about the team not believing in what sendek was doing was true. We need to forget sendek now, though. 5/7/2006 10:33:13 AM |
BobbyDigital Thots and Prayers 41777 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "He needs to chill out with the public airing of dirty laundry" |
agreed. This coaching change is clearly going to be a great thing for the program, but nothing's gained by publicly denigrating Herb at this point.5/7/2006 10:33:54 AM |
timswar All American 41050 Posts user info edit post |
if Grant hated herbs style so much then why did he come here... it's not like he wouldn't have known what he was getting into... 5/7/2006 11:04:47 AM |
BobbyDigital Thots and Prayers 41777 Posts user info edit post |
I'd say that had more to do with Hodge than Herb. 5/7/2006 11:09:37 AM |
PimpinHonda All American 4331 Posts user info edit post |
at the level he was at, its not like he had his choice of ACC school to go to, though it may no longer be the most elite basketball conference, its still one of the best, its hard to turn down an opportunity to play at NC State and the ACC, it was probably the best offer he had 5/7/2006 11:09:37 AM |
ncstatetke All American 41128 Posts user info edit post |
Grant will NEVER play after college. Europe won't even want his sorry ass
he needs to worry less about his old coach and worry more about learning how to dribble without carrying the ball, how to pass without it winding up in the stands and how to shoot a fucking jumper 5/7/2006 11:28:38 AM |
phishnlou All American 13446 Posts user info edit post |
take a second to remove herbs testicles from your mouth
then realize, that gavin grant is the guy next year 5/7/2006 11:46:23 AM |
PvtJoker All American 15000 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | ""Ta me, it lookt like a leppakunn da me....all ya gah'do is look up innet tree!"" |
5/7/2006 11:49:23 AM |
wolfiepakmus All American 5815 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "take a second to remove herbs testicles from your mouth
then realize, that gavin grant is the guy next year" |
Please take this guy's advice. Go ahead and hop on that plane to Tempe.5/7/2006 11:53:43 AM |
arog20012001 All American 10023 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "Grant will NEVER play after college" |
a little harsh on him, huh? and grant will be the guy next year, unless ced comes back and then he will be the 2nd guy5/7/2006 12:10:00 PM |
LiusClues New Recruit 13824 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "take a second to remove herbs testicles from your mouth
then realize, that gavin grant is the guy next year" |
i supported herb, but i laughed at this one and also agree.5/7/2006 12:16:57 PM |
BanjoMan All American 9609 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "at the level he was at, its not like he had his choice of ACC school to go to, though it may no longer be the most elite basketball conference, its still one of the best, its hard to turn down an opportunity to play at NC State and the ACC, it was probably the best offer he had" |
I know that Paul Hewit at Ga Tech was heavily going after him.5/7/2006 12:30:01 PM |
kevmcd86 All American 5832 Posts user info edit post |
i got cussed out by paul hewitt.
not sure why...
nigga's fiesty.
[Edited on May 7, 2006 at 12:35 PM. Reason : .] 5/7/2006 12:34:53 PM |
rallydurham Suspended 11317 Posts user info edit post |
Gavin is the man.
I simply can't believe there was so much discontent with Herb from inside the lockerroom.
All the players LOVED Herb Sendek when he was here...
Remember all those articles where the players were quoted saying supportive things??????????????
Stupid Herb lovers. 5/7/2006 12:35:22 PM |
pwrstrkdf250 Suspended 60006 Posts user info edit post |
haha he'd rather bash one of our own than to get off of herbs dick 5/7/2006 12:37:54 PM |
JT3bucky All American 23258 Posts user info edit post |
Gavin was actually really mad when herb left, the maddest out of all the guys because of what Herb did by not telling them till after the deal was sealed and not even telling them until THEY had to call a tea meeting after finding out on the internet. Gavin was really mad and still is mad with Herb so im sure he was just getting back while he could. 5/7/2006 12:39:43 PM |
kevmcd86 All American 5832 Posts user info edit post |
i LOVE meeting for tea 5/7/2006 12:40:32 PM |
Hedgeapple All American 2530 Posts user info edit post |
^^^^haha no they did not, some did, but noooo
[Edited on May 7, 2006 at 12:44 PM. Reason : b] 5/7/2006 12:44:03 PM |
rallydurham Suspended 11317 Posts user info edit post |
yeah i know...
i was talking about all the Herb lovers would say "well teh players love Herb so that should tell you something"
then theyd point to an article with a quote from Marcus Melvin that said "yeah coach sendek is really good. he does good things that i feel real good about. i think we're gonna be good if we just start playing gooder."
LIke no shit a guy who is on thin ice already isnt gonna be caught quoted in the paper saying "our head coach is a jack ass" 5/7/2006 12:52:21 PM |
kiljadn All American 44690 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "who all seent da leppakhan say 'YEAH'" |
5/7/2006 12:53:40 PM |
Hedgeapple All American 2530 Posts user info edit post |
sine yo pitty ona runny kine 5/7/2006 12:57:13 PM |
Mr Scrumples Suspended 61466 Posts user info edit post |
Gavin Grizzle yall. 5/7/2006 1:11:36 PM |
ohmy All American 3875 Posts user info edit post |
^^^^exactly. and when we would say things a/b the players not liking herb or his system, we'd get ridiculed as if we didn't know what we were talking about. OH YOURE BEST FRIENDS WITH THESE GUYS HUH!!? they would say. YOU CAN READ THEIR MINDS HUH!? YOU THINK YOU GOT INSIDE INFO!?!
well... WHOS RIGHT NOW SUCKAS!1 5/7/2006 1:41:44 PM |
Stein All American 19842 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "then realize, that gavin grant is the guy next year" |
God help us all.5/7/2006 2:00:20 PM |
BobbyDigital Thots and Prayers 41777 Posts user info edit post |
Ever think that maybe his subpar performance to date may be due to the type of coaching and gameplay he's been forced into? 5/7/2006 2:03:19 PM |
spro All American 4329 Posts user info edit post |
nah, i don't have a huge problem with that, the guy was the only reason we didn't lose to wake by 30 both times down the stretch
a lot of those 'drive into the lane and run somebody over for a charge' moves are turning into actual scores - it looks like his feel is improving - at least he's proven he'll take charge if need be 5/7/2006 2:04:30 PM |
Ernie All American 45943 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "Ever think that maybe his subpar performance to date may be due to the type of coaching and gameplay he's been forced into?" |
i agree with half of that
its not like he was forced into it, he came to state by his own free will
if he hated herb's style so much what was he doing here5/7/2006 2:05:59 PM |
clalias All American 1580 Posts user info edit post |
nm, misread
[Edited on May 7, 2006 at 2:06 PM. Reason : .]
[Edited on May 7, 2006 at 2:07 PM. Reason : \/ that's why I cut that shit] 5/7/2006 2:06:13 PM |
Ernie All American 45943 Posts user info edit post |
clalias said:
Quote : | "Yeah everyone knows we could only recruit the highly intellectual ivy league boys that need to hang out at half court, with our high academic standards and all." |
??
[Edited on May 7, 2006 at 2:07 PM. Reason : ]5/7/2006 2:06:51 PM |
statefan24 All American 9157 Posts user info edit post |
^^^^^^are you kidding?
gavin was the man at the end of last year when he digressed away from the herb-O
[Edited on May 7, 2006 at 2:07 PM. Reason : hj] 5/7/2006 2:07:18 PM |
Stein All American 19842 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "Ever think that maybe his subpar performance to date may be due to the type of coaching and gameplay he's been forced into?" |
You'd think that, but it wasn't coaching that was causing all his unforced turnovers and stupid plays.
Not to mention the fact that he magically got better after getting his beak turned round, which I don't think is actually "coach related". If he can keep playing like he did towards the end of last year though, things might not be so bad.5/7/2006 2:08:05 PM |
BoobsR_gr8 All American 30000 Posts user info edit post |
gg gavin grant and ced simmons for echoing my sentiments 5/7/2006 2:12:32 PM |
DaveOT All American 11945 Posts user info edit post |
Gav was making progress throughout the season. It wasn't just the broken nose that turned him around, although he definitely had some more fire from that game on. 5/7/2006 2:13:25 PM |
vinylbandit All American 48079 Posts user info edit post |
This kind of deal happens all the time.
Guys like a coach, then when the things he's doing stop working, the stuff that didn't bother them before starts working into their heads.
Ken Hitchcock is a great hockey coach. He believes in discipline and everyone buying into a system. Players like him well enough, but when his methods stop working, they turn on him, usually citing that he hasn't played the game at the highest level. He was fired by the Dallas Stars for that very reason, and he'll soon be fired by the Flyers for it, too. 5/7/2006 2:22:02 PM |
rwoody Save TWW 37702 Posts user info edit post |
of course the two guys that sendek utilized least are gonna criticize him. everybody wants to play and wants the ball and there isnt a single offense that lets everybody take as many shots and play as much as they want, somebody is usually gonna be mad.
and i agree that gavin will be the man next year, but i also agree that he isnt nba material unless he can develop a jumper. he is in the same boat Juice is and Juice was wayyy overdrafted. He is not as good a rebounder and floor leader as juice and a slightly better shooter and slasher, slightlly. 5/7/2006 2:38:34 PM |
BoobsR_gr8 All American 30000 Posts user info edit post |
gavin also has 2 more years to go 5/7/2006 2:39:29 PM |
rallydurham Suspended 11317 Posts user info edit post |
Well i dont think its a coincidence that our two best scorers are the ones complaining about how they were utilized on offense. 5/7/2006 2:39:31 PM |
rwoody Save TWW 37702 Posts user info edit post |
well they did each have knocks on them almost all year
gavin: he couldnt touch the ball w/out turning it over and couldnt guard a sharpied dot on the floor
ced: he couldnt establish solid position on the post, didnt know how to catch/dunk/rebound with two hands and couldnt handle the double team.
actually, ced still had those problems at the end of the year.
now those problems are all prob related to coaching but they were reasons to keep the ball out of their hands. 5/7/2006 2:49:47 PM |
wolfAApack All American 9980 Posts user info edit post |
Ced got knocked out of the post a few times, but there were also a few times that he had position and our players just didnt know how to throw a fucking entry pass. I think Lowe will help them with that, and Ced will be a little bigger next year hopefully.
[Edited on May 7, 2006 at 3:04 PM. Reason : ] 5/7/2006 3:03:36 PM |
Probasesteal All American 10307 Posts user info edit post |
^eat a dick 5/7/2006 3:04:48 PM |
wolfAApack All American 9980 Posts user info edit post |
whip the little fella out 5/7/2006 3:09:35 PM |
Stein All American 19842 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | " I think Lowe will help them with that" |
Based on what, exactly?5/7/2006 5:53:57 PM |
wolfAApack All American 9980 Posts user info edit post |
He's a point guard....I'm sure he figured it out at some point in his career.
[Edited on May 7, 2006 at 6:00 PM. Reason : ] 5/7/2006 5:59:32 PM |