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5/25/2006 10:46:53 AM

he's playing in an aluminum bat baseball league


so dont' worry

he'll be up on manslaughter charges soon enough.

i think his first ab, the ball went 400ft

5/25/2006 10:48:20 AM

i think i read 480 feet on his first at bat actually

5/25/2006 10:52:55 AM

once again if it was anyone else no one would give a fuck. let the man play some ball.

5/25/2006 11:36:46 AM

canseco made up all the steroids stuff to sell books and make money

we all know that nobody in major league baseball has ever used roids

canseco is a jealous liar and a pathetic person for trying to badmouth the purest american sport

5/25/2006 11:47:11 AM

^haha

5/25/2006 11:48:34 AM

boy

you have a fucking axe to grind

5/25/2006 11:50:25 AM

no i dont really care but i know plenty of people had that sentiment when his book first came out

haha i remember some ignorant jokers on TWW adamantly dismissing the possibility that Barry Bonds might have used steroids

5/25/2006 11:55:04 AM

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"haha i remember some ignorant jokers on TWW adamantly dismissing the possibility that Barry Bonds might have used steroids"

I know comprehension and retention can be a bitch after years of weed but this is getting old.. I don't recall ANYONE saying that there was no way Bonds might have or could have used steriods. You scoff at sentiments that were never expressed... get over it.

5/25/2006 1:39:55 PM

haha msb is still in denial

"innocent til proven guilty, innocent til proven guilty"

you're probably mad that I saw his size 8 7/8" fitted hats and said damn that fucker is juicing and you didnt jump to that accurate conclusion

5/25/2006 1:44:18 PM

Again, you lack basic comprehension skills if you think that I thought Bonds never used steroids or that there was no way he could have. I think the discussion was simply over your head.

"innocent til proven guilty" is something that this country seems to have failed to grasp in recent times... heck, just look at Duke Lacrosse. People put no thought into what forms their opinions and make no attempt at atleast entertaining other possibilities. Sometimes you need a Devil's Advocate.

Personally I don't see why people care so much about Bonds specifcally. I've never cared for him, but I see no need for an asterisk, no need for a ban, no need for stripping of stats, etc. Everyone is so caught up on power hitters having an advantage but gives next to no thought about the pitchers, who probably have even more to gain from using illegal steroids.

Quote :

"Barry Bonds' biggest crime is that in a time when everyone did steroids, he happened to be an asshole."

5/25/2006 2:04:21 PM

everyone did steroids, eh

here i thought bonds was getting all this attention because he was moving from 3rd to 2nd in the all time homeruns list and aaron and ruth dont play anymore

oh yeah and he was juicing

btw i'm not specifically talking to you msb, and yeah in criminal proceedings people are technically supposed to be innocent until proven guilty

but a few years ago when i was saying bonds was juiced, plenty of people, again not you necessarily, but plenty of people were trying to convince me that he was just a hard worker and he went to the gym a lot and took protein supplements...they were naive as shit...they talked mad shit to me and now they arent fessing up to being pwnt by bonds' grand jury testimony

5/25/2006 3:51:45 PM

Oh, I was one of the more prominent people in those threads talking against you, but never on the belief that he never did and never could have. I seriously don't remember anyone thinking like that. I offered up plenty of plausible reasons to combat the "damning" evidence against him but it was more Devil's Advocate to reinforce the whole "innocent until proven guilty" mantra... oh, and its more than simple civil code, its common human decency.

People said that there was no way he could be that freakishly huge and not take steroids... I simply pointed out that he wasn't really freakishly huge when looking at pro athletes in general, that his physical increase was consistent over his career, that other "clean" athletes had more substantial growth over shorter periods of time, that his performance throughout his career showed he was perfectly capable of performing at that high level (unlike Roger Maris), and that there is great hypocrisy in condemning Bonds yet celebrating others who "cheated", like Gaylord Perry and Wille Mays. Never once did I say that I thought Bonds was clean (nor did any of the people who agreed with me). We simply felt that it was asinine to condemn him without being privy to the details of what went on given all the possibilities.

5/25/2006 4:30:56 PM

i just thought back then that it was pretty obvious that he was using steroids

and i was right about that aspect of it

5/25/2006 5:02:33 PM

this thread was actually inspired by a rap song

5/26/2006 12:00:35 AM

i died laughin when i read the title of this thread. ive been sayin that shit all day long!!

that feeeneeshed part is what really killed me

that was a good one

[Edited on May 26, 2006 at 12:11 AM. Reason : .]

5/26/2006 12:03:45 AM

hoes say im conseco

5/26/2006 12:10:25 AM

5/26/2006 12:15:24 AM

whip it real hard
whip it whip it real hard

5/26/2006 12:39:51 AM

the real Noreaga
he owe me a lot of favors

5/26/2006 11:08:48 AM

rofl
i posted here

5/26/2006 11:27:28 AM