I am always impressed by watching the British parliament and Prime Minister duke it out. Makes me wonder what Bush would say if he was taken away from his speechwriters and was made to answer the tough questions honestly like Tony Blair does (and to substantiate his decisions). No more doublespeak and hearsay. Just good ole bareknuckle democracy.

6/4/2006 11:51:21 PM

i'm not particularly fond of bush fucking up anymore

it use to be funny though

6/4/2006 11:57:48 PM

I don't think there is anyone who would disagree except for Bush and his handlers.

6/5/2006 12:10:37 AM

I would venture to say he is the most hated man in the history of humanity. There have been more evil and deranged leaders in history, but due to advances in communications technology, I would say numerically he wins. I mean he basically has the entire world and 71% of his own people who dislike him. I don't know about you, but thats some shit that would keep me up at night.

6/5/2006 12:11:13 AM

^no...thats ridiculous....someone like hitler takes the cake...lots of people are trying to be dramatic like "bush is the most hated leader who has screwed up the world worse than anyone in the world ever in all time"...give it a few years...he wont even matter than much

6/5/2006 12:29:42 AM

in about 50 years

the best punchlines are gonna be the worst things my grandchildren learn in history class

i mean, we've had presidents who shot people in duels, went completely around the constitution, scourged an entire race almost off the planet - let alone off their own land, drove the country into civil war, gave every position in their cabinet to their evil friends

but somehow, like scuba says
this guy is routinely going to get the shaft as the worst president ever

i mean, i love andrew jackson's story - but you can make a case that as a person he was the worst president ever; and personally i think for fucking with the office, nobody will ever be worse than warren g., and so on and so forth

it almost makes me feel sad for Dubya

6/5/2006 12:30:58 AM

My point is that people like Hitler were horrible and probably the most evil. Actually, I think Stalin killed three times as many people as Hitler, but people seem to forget him because that Hitler was much more well documented. But at the time, the technology did not exist to get the word out in a timely fashion.

Factor in the fact we probably have twice the population than we did 60 years ago, along with the communications technology to even the most remote areas of the earth. Im not saying Bush is worse than Hitler. Im saying that you look at the aggregate number of people in this world who dislike or hate GWB, its probably larger than anyone else in history. Its a quantitative measure, not qualitative.

6/5/2006 12:44:15 AM

This thread went downhill fast

6/5/2006 1:32:00 AM

not much different from any other tww thread in that respect

6/5/2006 2:32:35 AM

Is the House of Commons the part of their government that consists of an actual representation of the percentage of votes each political party receives?

6/5/2006 6:31:46 AM

Quote :

"I mean he basically has the entire world and 71% of his own people who dislike him. "

That's nothing. His own father had lower approval ratings than that. 29%? HA!
His cross poll average is still 39.5%.

"To find presidents with higher low-point approval ratings than Bush, one has to go back to John Kennedy at 56 percent, and Dwight Eisenhower at 48 percent. "
http://www.wnd.com/news/article.asp?ARTICLE_ID=46832

I don't know how good this reference is, first thing that came up on google.

6/5/2006 7:53:14 AM

I agree with Scuba Steve. The sheer number of angry Arabs/Americans is staggering. If we assume a mere 1 billion people hate him(which is conservative, since there are 1.3billion muslims alone), then that's a whopping 43% of the world population in 1940. It's safe to assume that less than 43% of people really despised hitler at the time, if they cared at all.

If I was him I'd never set foot outside my bunker.

6/5/2006 8:18:15 AM

^That's some messed up math right there. Given 1 billion people hate the president. Why did you compare that with the population of 1940? You should have compared that with today's population if you wanted to make the % of people that hate a contemporary figure head argument.

I must have missed something. Seems like it would have been better for you to say 1 billion is 15% of the world population today. Did 15% of the world population hate Hitler at the time he was in power? Then again I am probably missing the point you are trying to make. Is your point the quantity of people?

6/5/2006 8:43:36 AM

Back to the fucking TOPIC,

Yes, I too would love to see a House of Commons in our own government. It would be refreshing for once to see our leaders yelling back and forth at each other and actually duking it out. Some of the most interesting TV on past 3am is watching the House of Commons on CSpan.. that shit is great.

6/5/2006 9:25:40 AM

i think what you guys are really asking for is "prime minister's questions"

we already ostensibly have a house of commons...it's called "the house"

6/5/2006 9:34:23 AM

Quote :

"I agree with Scuba Steve. The sheer number of angry Arabs/Americans is staggering."

Once you add South Americans, Africans, Europeans, Asians, ect, that number grows substantially. I don't know how he would compare percentage-wise with Hitler. I would wager Bush would easily beat Josef Stalin. Either way, the point is that with the earths population is nearly double what it was in 1940, the sheer number of people who dislike Bush is probably greater because of the greater number of people alive, even if the percentages were similar or even much greater in the past.

6/5/2006 9:38:34 AM

in spite of all the population stuff....the sheer number of people who dislike bush is probably nowhere close to the number who hated hitler, stalin and mussolini

6/5/2006 9:42:16 AM

^^ the prime ministers questions is exactly what I am referring to. No more carefully calculated answers and doublespeak through a press secretary. No more hidden agendas and ivory tower politics nestled away safely from the rest of America. I still can't believe sometimes we give this much power to just one man.

6/5/2006 9:43:24 AM

Question Time will probably not get going here. American politicians at that level are basically puppets of their staffs. The process would get adjusted so everyone came off looking good. Their staffs will not permit their politicians to get into a regularly scheduled opportunity to say something stupid.

6/5/2006 10:35:09 AM

Well, it bears remembering, the prime minister is not all alone on the commons floor. He has his notebook in front of him with staff generated responses to likely questions. Hell, many questions are submitted in advance.

Only a few times in the year I've been watching was Blair trapped without talking points for a given question, he politely replied "I'll look into it and my staff will get back to you in writing."

I watch prime minister's question time quite often, c-span.org carries it, but don't believe politicians even in Britain allow themselves to get caught without their staff.

6/5/2006 12:59:48 PM

^ So really, if we had a "President's Question Time" in Congress, it would simply be Bush flipping through a notebook to pull out a canned, staff generated response or deferring to his staff. Probably the only satisfaction anyone would be able to derive from it would be watching the Democrats heckle him, and even that would get old after a couple of months.

6/5/2006 2:07:50 PM

^nah, there would be plenty of bushisms. Those never get old. Also, the occasional slip up that leads to the market lurching up or down a few points

[Edited on June 5, 2006 at 8:00 PM. Reason : sdfsdf]

6/5/2006 7:59:24 PM

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6/6/2006 12:32:02 AM

"If you don't eat yer meat, you can't have any pudding.
How can you have any pudding if you don't eat yer meat?"
"You! Yes, you behind the bikesheds, stand still laddy!"

[Edited on June 6, 2006 at 3:06 AM. Reason : .]

6/6/2006 3:05:14 AM

How Bush is viewed depends on what happens with the US in terms of economic and military power over the next several decades.

At best, he will merely be viewed as flawed.

6/6/2006 10:29:37 AM

i've wished for this for years now. w. european politicians are light years smarter than our president, and im not just bush-bashing here. its the truth.

misguided at times, maybe, but never as stupid as W.

6/14/2006 4:44:02 PM

Scuba, he may be beat in numbers during his lifetime, but don't forget that you're still talking about Stalin and Hitler a half-century later. When you add up the entire generations of people who hated those fucks, they win.

6/14/2006 4:56:34 PM

on second thought, we should just join the commonwealth. that way, we can just claim Elizabeth as primary leader.

6/14/2006 5:47:56 PM

sure, but we gotta have that chair

6/14/2006 5:57:35 PM

god i love questions to the prime minister

some of the funniest SNL parody skits ever

[Edited on June 14, 2006 at 7:24 PM. Reason : .]

6/14/2006 7:13:33 PM

haha you mean the one where will ferrell is like

OAY-SIS IS THE GREAT-EST BAHND IN THE WORLD

6/14/2006 7:14:51 PM

CAN WE NOT VOTE ON THIS?

6/14/2006 7:19:20 PM

http://snltranscripts.jt.org/96/96pmajor.phtml

wish i could find the video

6/14/2006 7:21:02 PM

thank you

i was looking SO HARD

6/14/2006 7:22:18 PM