Back on National tv tonight at 10pm on Sci Fi

6/13/2006 8:21:25 PM

w/ Paul Hayman?

6/13/2006 8:26:19 PM

AND Balls Mahoney

6/13/2006 8:27:54 PM

i assume this version of ECW will be under the WWE brand?
and just used as a feeder for the WWE?

6/13/2006 8:38:12 PM

^yep.. it will be a little different from the old ECW but still EXTREME

6/13/2006 8:41:12 PM

sci fi?

6/13/2006 10:07:10 PM

owned by universal which owns USA, NBC et al.

6/13/2006 10:08:47 PM

The show tonight was crap....

too much WWE influence...

Even though they can't use Metallica's version of Enter Sandman they should at least use Motorhead's version....Sandman had the best entrance that anyone ever had

I think they are trying to turn the Big Slow to a new 911

Hopefully after vengence, the new ECW will focus on its on brand.

If you want it to be interesting...let the fans bring the weapons(like crutches, pans, etc) like they used to back in the day. I remember fans bringing old school nintendos and keyboards and iron skillets...

this is a shell of what it used to be...

and they reduced Justin Credible to a jobber role....man the WWE hates this guy....i mean he was forced to be Aldo Montoya...and then they bury him....

6/14/2006 12:58:14 AM

man what u talkin bout Aldo Montoya was awesome

6/14/2006 1:00:53 AM

i thought the Zombie thing was HILARIOUS.

6/14/2006 1:03:36 AM

yeah...that was pretty funny...probably the best part

I knew when the big slow threw sabu over the top to the apron that sabu would win...

6/14/2006 1:08:14 AM

Do they still have Sting?

6/14/2006 8:14:05 AM

i always hated justin credible

6/14/2006 9:09:01 AM

way too many commercial breaks, they put over the two WWE stars who weren't in the original ECW. The problem that they are going to have is that they do ECW after Smackdown so its a mixed crowd. I also think the problem is WWE killed a lot of ECW mainstays with the exception of RVD. Justin Credible former ECW champ was released by WWE. Stevie Richards was a jobber after his lame RTC gimmick. I think I saw Little Guido win 2 matches in WWE. Look for RVD to lose the WWE title and keep the ECW after Vengence. The Cena-Sabu match will only be good if its ECW rules.

6/14/2006 9:54:08 AM

yeah... what was the difference between watching that and watching a WWE program?
it's done in Philly, whoop de fucking doo... the philly crowd will turn on them if they don't quit with the wwe crap...
unless the philly fanbase has gone soft...

Vince McMahon is just trying to relieve the "glory days" of the 90's in wrestling, when it had it's huge upswing in popularity... trying to revive ECW (with a WWE taint), bringing back DX... just recent examples...

i know the 7 year rule is probably in effect, but still, it just stinks of someone who knows his business isn't doing as well as he'd hoped right now and is trying to bring back that swell of popularity that started a decade ago...

frankly, if he REALLY wants to bring that back, then he needs to hope that TNA becomes somewhat successful, and maybe winds up developing a monday night program to give him some competition

6/14/2006 9:59:44 AM

There was just an article on CNN.com about how WWE stock is really hot right now, and it figures to stay that way.

Basically the article said the company is doing very well and that wrestling is MUCH more popular now than it was three or four years ago.

Of course, that's nothing compared to the late 90s, like you^ said, but still. They're not exactly HURTING for business right now.

6/14/2006 10:01:46 AM

ha, the business is cyclical, the stock'll go down again eventually...

unless they're peaking early... if you notice, since the 60's there's been a point where the business peaks during the decade and then tapers off... in the 70's they peaked because they were one of the first things on cable and got great exposure from that, the 80's peaked with Hulkamania (particularly vs. Andre the Giant), the 90's peaked when Stone Cold/The Rock were building and the NWO was still a ratings force...

i hope they're not peaking too early now, cuz if they are it's gonna be a long wait until next decade's peak..

6/14/2006 10:06:10 AM

they just released their 4th quarter report and it was lower than expected due to lower gates and merch sale. But yeah the industry is cyclical. Its hard for Vince because he doesn't have any young star power. Cena is being booed by men, Batista is nearing 40, Triple H, HBK, Flair, 'Taker are all aging or old already. There really isn't any marketable wrestler out there a la the good old days.

6/14/2006 10:22:21 AM

yeah, that happens...
the older guys start to (already are) dominate most aspects of the business...
which can be good... a lot of younger guys develop stronger characters/skills almost as a reaction to having to work against the older guys and prove themselves...

i dunno... i stopped watching wrestling a while ago, i had hopes for this ECW thing, and i'll check it out again (i assume it'll be on next week as well) to see if they start cutting out most of the WWE stuff, but i'm not holding out much hope...

6/14/2006 10:27:04 AM

I'm not looking for this to be anywhere in the same neighborhood as the original ECW. I do look forward to this being the best of what the E has to offer once they get this little RAW vs. ECW thing done, provided Heyman is given a reasonably long leash with the booking.

6/14/2006 11:37:56 AM

god i miss ecw... the real ecw, not this 30 second match shit. and who the fuck is the zombie? that shit had me laughing my ass off

6/14/2006 1:06:55 PM

It will never be the same now that it is a monopoly, competetion is what drove things so well before now its Vince vs. Vince

6/14/2006 1:10:48 PM

I'm suprised Vince isn't trying to buy TNA.

6/14/2006 1:15:13 PM

Quote :

"bringing back DX"

they brought back DX???

6/14/2006 1:27:19 PM

Yeah Monday night. What is this now, the second time they've tried to revive DX? Last time HHH turned on HBK, wouldn't be suprised if this was just a stunt and HBK turn on HHH. But let's hope they bring back their old antics and stuff, made great promos.

6/14/2006 1:43:13 PM

i didnt read this thread

and dont watch wrestling much anymore

but if new jack was on this shit, im a fan again

6/14/2006 1:45:18 PM

Quote :

"I'm suprised Vince isn't trying to buy TNA."

I think he only buys successful companies, he already tried the xfl.

6/14/2006 2:33:46 PM

^^ yeah New Jack was one of my favorite ECW wrestlers he didn't give a fuck, plus i have never seen a black guy wear a Cradle of Filth t-shirt

6/14/2006 3:39:57 PM

i think dx is for real this time. i donno who else they would get to join tho.

yea i hope ecws given a long leash...i think its lame big shows in it, and sorta lame angles in it. they coulda had plenty of starpower if they would have only let those who had been in ecw join up. rey are mick foley are the two biggest stars that come to mind still in wwe.

and tna has sucked horribly when i've watched, but they are starting to get some big names. nash, sting, steiner, rhyno, jesse james, billy gunn, christian, jeff jarret, dudleyz i think to name a few.

[Edited on June 14, 2006 at 7:23 PM. Reason : ]

6/14/2006 7:17:53 PM

^ yea its for real, but it shouldnt last too long since HBK is gonna have knee surgery in a couple of months

6/14/2006 8:19:17 PM

DX is just going to be Triple H and HBK and will be here just for the summer, but anything is possible in wrestling depends on the fan reaction, the roof about came off the building Monday so it could last longer.

6/14/2006 8:41:38 PM

I saw ECW at the Ritz (Disco Rodeo) in 1998 or 1999. It was the motherfuckin wins. Balls was there. The Dudley Brothers were there. The Amish Chicken Fuckers were there.

New Jack leaped off the second story and crushed some dude on a table. Then he beat that dude's ass with a crock pot. My roommate scored a piece of the crockpot and it hung on the wall for 6 months until we moved out.

I met Balls in the parking lot and got his autograph.

[Edited on June 15, 2006 at 12:48 AM. Reason : l]

6/15/2006 12:38:29 AM

^^ yeah, if DX is hugely successful right out of the gate you're going to see Michaels postpone whatever surgery he needs to get...

which, of couirse, means hea'll seriously injure himself pretty quickly after that... but that's the price these guys pay

6/15/2006 8:00:10 AM

^^ was that the show that RVD injured a fan

6/15/2006 11:14:08 AM

^ Yeah. I never figured out exactly what happened, but the fan was on the floor for a long time (15 minutes?) before paramedics even realized anything was wrong and the show just kept going. They eventually carried him out on a stretcher.

[Edited on June 15, 2006 at 12:45 PM. Reason : l]

6/15/2006 12:44:42 PM

i thought this thread was for


EAST COAST WINGS!!!

6/16/2006 12:21:25 AM

The whole world is taking a dump on the show Tuesday night, including Paul E.

It'll be interesting to see if it gets any better after the cross-promotion shit ends.

6/16/2006 12:15:34 PM

hmmm...
ECW wrestler list...

Balls Mahoney
Big Show (Slow)
C.W. Anderson (eh)
Danny Doring
Francine
Jazz
Kurt Angle (wtf is he doing here?)
Paul Heyman (why is he listed as a wrestler?)
Rob Van Dam
Sabu (no way in hell Sabu is Sabu on this show)
Sandman
Tazz (ummm... he's an announcer... does anyone really believe he has his old ring skills?)
Terry Funk (the REAL zombie)
Tommy Dreamer
Tony Malamuke

not overwhelming... not even whelming... maybe if this had been 1996 i'd be impressed by that list, but it's not...

6/16/2006 12:20:48 PM

Yeah Sabu is on there.

There are some people that aren't listed...

Big Guido
Trinity

Those are two people that was on the show this past week but aren't on the website. Axl Rotten was on the list earlier this week.

6/18/2006 5:49:09 PM

i didn't mean that it wasn't Sabu in the New ECW... i meant that there's no way in hell he's either allowed to or even still able to do all the stuff that made him the hero of the Philly fans for so many years...

6/18/2006 5:52:33 PM

I never figured you for a pro wrestling fan, timswar.

6/18/2006 5:55:22 PM

oh, i was quite the fan back in the day... read all the dirt sheets... knew the details of most of the wrestlers contracts... absorbed every scrap of information i could get... i was what you'd call a Smark... a Mark (fan) who had smartened himself up to the business...

i still check in on Pro Wrestling every now and then, but it's lost a lot of appeal over the last few years... i can't find a lot of the current personalities interesting...

6/18/2006 5:58:54 PM

Axl Rotten got released because he refused to goto his physical cause hes too fat.

6/18/2006 7:41:50 PM

Don't forget...it is back on tonight

Tonight, Sabu and RVD vs Orton and Edge

here's probably what will happen...

Cena will come out and him and Sabu will fight somewhere.
Angle will come out and fight with Orton.
That will leave RVD and Edge left in the ring....lita will interfere and there will be a DQ(even though there is no DQ rule in ECW)

6/20/2006 4:11:19 PM

The first show was awful. Everybody on the inside is openly acknowledging it was awful.

It was the highest rated cable show last week.

Vince wants more of the same.

This thing doesn't stand a chance.

6/20/2006 4:46:36 PM

im

>rob<

>van<

>dam<

6/20/2006 4:51:57 PM

^^^pretty sure its angle, not sabu, in the match

6/20/2006 6:51:08 PM

It's Angle/RVD vs Orton/Edge tonight

I wonder if the Zombie and/or Vampire will be back.

6/20/2006 7:03:54 PM

MACHO LIBRE!!!!!
OOOHHH YEAHHHHHH!!!

6/20/2006 10:35:11 PM

I believe that was Roadkill in a mask

6/20/2006 11:28:39 PM