ves?

liberal? conservative? something else?

just wondering

i'm fairly independent with some conservative leanings myself...just kinda depends on the situation...anyone else?

6/20/2006 3:52:08 PM

Liberal with bursts of fascism...

6/20/2006 3:59:26 PM

Quote :

"Liberal with bursts of fascism..."

6/20/2006 4:00:41 PM

if this thread makes 2 pages or more i'll do a little graph to hopefully give some kind of half ass "demographic" breakdown of a sample of soap box users

6/20/2006 4:01:44 PM

Blackburn Rovers

or

Tottenham Hotspur (The Lillywhites)

6/20/2006 4:02:32 PM

I'm a big fan of oligarchy. I used to like the idea of equality but then I realized most idiots don't need a decision, or freedom, or power -- what they need is an assignment.

6/20/2006 4:02:54 PM

^^i have no idea what that means

6/20/2006 4:03:05 PM

thats because you follow shitty sports. like the NBA.

go dig up one of the old threads. youre just a troll anyway.

6/20/2006 4:04:21 PM

Know Nothing

Although I considered myself a libertarian (with a slight lean to the right) before the Irish came.

6/20/2006 4:04:54 PM

so you make a bunch of troll comments in my thread about soccer and nba, when the thread is about political ideologies...and call me a troll

you're pathetic

fyi soap box...anyone who is not a liberal and doesnt agree with liberal ideals is a troll

6/20/2006 4:05:41 PM

"Liberal" and "conservative" should always be tacked onto the end of "fiscally" or "socially"

Because i'm definitely socially liberal, but not so much fiscally.

6/20/2006 4:08:02 PM

no

people who throw out sweeping generalizations are trolls

like "all you liberals" and "all you consevatives"

seems like youve done that a lot, or maybe im thinking of someone else.

anyway here you go:

socially liberal, fiscally moderate

Labour's Cause is England's Cause

[Edited on June 20, 2006 at 4:10 PM. Reason : .]

6/20/2006 4:09:15 PM

thank you for responding coherently

and in regards to sweeping generalizations, the thread title specifically asks what YOU consider YOURSELF...seems a little more specific than general to me

6/20/2006 4:11:33 PM

This thread is a great example of why we need actual moderation in this forum.

[Edited on June 20, 2006 at 4:12 PM. Reason : .]

6/20/2006 4:12:21 PM

i miss when you just posted about hash and herb (sendek)

6/20/2006 4:12:45 PM

i miss back when i used to smoke weed, big deal

do i assume you play mario brothers all day every day

6/20/2006 4:14:02 PM

Fuck moderation, can we just get a Soap Box Thunderdome?

TWO MAN ENTER, ONE MAN LEAVE

6/20/2006 4:16:33 PM

6/20/2006 4:18:56 PM

correct

6/20/2006 4:24:07 PM

Quote :

""Liberal" and "conservative" should always be tacked onto the end of "fiscally" or "socially" Because i'm definitely socially liberal, but not so much fiscally."

that's what i was just about to post in regards to myself

6/20/2006 4:28:31 PM

libertarian in ideal terms

southern democrat in practical terms

6/20/2006 4:33:13 PM

^^I understand what it means to be socially liberal.

And I used to understand what it means to be fiscally conservative, but now I'm not so sure anymore.

Does fiscally conservative mean in favor of more big business incentives, more government spending with less public services and less taxes?

^They oughta get a rich man to vote like that...

[Edited on June 20, 2006 at 4:35 PM. Reason : sss]

6/20/2006 4:34:21 PM

i look at it as spending for the necessities.

conservative spending.

which basically means i'm all around a liberal.

6/20/2006 4:47:24 PM

Fiscal Conservative -
A government does not have the right to run up large debts and then throw the burden on the taxpayer; the taxpayers' right not to be taxed oppressively takes precedence even over paying back debts a government may have imprudently undertaken.

6/20/2006 4:58:26 PM

Republican Reptile.

6/20/2006 5:16:12 PM

^haven't heard that term in a while, but that's me. right-leaning little-"L" libertarian with an affinity for sex, drugs, rock & roll, fast cars, and blowing shit up...minus the drugs, because the Marines don't really like that so much.



[Edited on June 20, 2006 at 6:14 PM. Reason : asdf]

6/20/2006 6:13:25 PM

Progressive/McCain Democrat

conscience will not let me be the traditional conservative. i'll take inefficiency over corruption thx

i would say "liberal", but they're so into baby killing, celebrating gay buttsecks, and accidentally fooling low IQ America into thinking that communism actually exists, that they forget to make any real progress

6/20/2006 6:16:45 PM

Mostly centrist, leaning towards libertarian.

Although ideally I'm libertarian.

6/20/2006 8:22:45 PM

libertarian including the drugs. communist if people shape up.

6/20/2006 8:50:15 PM

Right leaning Libertarian

6/20/2006 9:09:13 PM

fiscally conservative, socially progressive

6/20/2006 9:10:33 PM

fiscally troll, socially contrarian

6/20/2006 9:17:28 PM

moderate conservative, sociallay moderate conservative, fiscally very conservative, government size very conservative

6/20/2006 9:22:08 PM

Libertarian, socialist, or libertarian socialist.

Depends on the day of the week.

6/20/2006 9:31:43 PM

6/20/2006 10:23:37 PM

^^
I'm not even sure how being both could make sense, but that's where I see myself as well.

6/20/2006 10:31:39 PM

Socially very conservative, fiscally conservative.

6/20/2006 11:40:53 PM

6/20/2006 11:46:05 PM

I'm really not even sure anymore. For the most part, obviously, conservative, but by now there are enough individual areas in which I'm pathologically socialistic that I don't think conservatives will claim me.

My Public Policy professor last semester was pretty rabidly liberal, but he was nice enough about it, I guess. But when I handed in my final paper on the prospects for a Single-Payer Health Plan, he put a note at the end saying that he very nearly decided to dock my grade because "it seems like you're just telling me what I want to hear." I was horrified.

6/20/2006 11:53:52 PM

Where's the old thread for those charts? I'd rather just copy and paste that shit than take the test again.

6/21/2006 12:03:39 AM

Socially Moderate (actually, I take many left and some right positions here, not really consistent at all , but it averages out I think).

Economically Left, but not necessarily Socialist.

http://politicalcompass.jpagel.net/printablegraph.php?ec=-3.88&soc=-2.10 if that helps.

6/21/2006 12:18:35 AM

Moderate Libertarian, that is accepting that any success in getting a libertarian actually elected requires moderation of the more extreme parts of the party platform.

I support Limited Government, Individual Liberty, Free Market Capitalism and Peace.

[Edited on June 21, 2006 at 12:40 AM. Reason : .]

6/21/2006 12:40:28 AM

http://www.moral-politics.com/xPolitics.aspx?menu=Home

AHA, I just took this exam, and it says I dig Jimmy Carter...right on...

6/21/2006 12:48:08 AM

The best episode of King of the Hill is the one where Bobby meets Jimmy Carter and thinks he's Jesus.

6/21/2006 12:49:32 AM

Right leaning Libertarian.

6/21/2006 2:12:05 AM

i dont know enough about polotics to categorize myself.

generally wherever i am, i find whatever is the most popular and go against it

6/21/2006 8:49:35 AM

I'm almost purely a Socialist.

6/21/2006 9:46:15 AM

Centrist with a slight gangsta lean to the right


(fiscally right, socially left)

[Edited on June 21, 2006 at 10:33 AM. Reason : ahg]

6/21/2006 10:32:20 AM

fiscally conservative, socially progressive

6/21/2006 10:45:59 AM

classical socialist in the ideal sense (people controll their destiny w/o existance of the state), but since that's not realistic, i vote socially liberal and fiscally moderate, typically. id be moderate here in europe, but liberal in america.

6/21/2006 11:11:03 AM