rs141 Veteran 217 Posts user info edit post |
http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/2006/writers/stewart_mandel/06/28/mandel.mailbag/1.html
This is ridiculous. Amato is no Pete Carroll, but worst in the nation?....come on. Amato worse than Bunting? No Way. At least he gave Bunting an honorable mention. 6/28/2006 5:15:22 PM |
thegoodlife3 All American 39308 Posts user info edit post |
ha 6/28/2006 5:15:48 PM |
Josh8315 Suspended 26780 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "1. Chuck "Red Shoes" Amato, N.C. State: Any remaining doubts as to how badly the Wolfpack has underachieved lately were erased in April's NFL draft, when three members of a 7-5 team were selected in the first round. Amato's teams have had no offensive identity whatsoever since Philip Rivers' departure, which might have something to do with going through new coordinators nearly every year. Didn't he at least take notes when Norm Chow was there?" |
speaks for itself.6/28/2006 5:23:05 PM |
DonMega Save TWW 4201 Posts user info edit post |
it must be true, it's on the web 6/28/2006 5:32:29 PM |
Josh8315 Suspended 26780 Posts user info edit post |
yea our flagitation and anemic offense is a myth 6/28/2006 5:37:38 PM |
1234chs All American 2574 Posts user info edit post |
Everyone either loves him or hates him...or loves to hate him. 6/28/2006 5:38:49 PM |
amac884 All American 25609 Posts user info edit post |
good ACC representation in the bottom 5 6/28/2006 5:55:52 PM |
khufu All American 2103 Posts user info edit post |
part of me still likes Chuck, but I am starting to develope a big ? for him as a head coach.
The article wasn't really off on anything in the assesment of Chuck, our underachieved, and our offense. 6/28/2006 6:04:10 PM |
Jaybee1200 Suspended 56200 Posts user info edit post |
Amato rules!
the shitter 6/28/2006 6:11:01 PM |
kevmcd86 All American 5832 Posts user info edit post |
the sole problem with our football team is that nobody can understand what the hell coach says in the locker room before the games.
"Uhhh....you people......flags......score.....football......herb........uhhhhhhh....fannies."
lets get a coach that can speak english. its not even ITALIAN....its 65 year old ebonics. 6/28/2006 6:46:22 PM |
Jaybee1200 Suspended 56200 Posts user info edit post |
apparently Amato is 65 now 6/28/2006 6:51:07 PM |
rallydurham Suspended 11317 Posts user info edit post |
actually the sole problem with our football team is that at any given time we can put 10 talented offensive players on the field, 11 talented defensive players on the field, and 11 talented special teamers on the field.
But if you consistently get the worst quarterback play in the country, it's tough to succeed. 6/28/2006 6:58:09 PM |
CharlieEFH All American 21806 Posts user info edit post |
all i can do is laugh at this 6/28/2006 6:58:32 PM |
Pi Master All American 18151 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "Everyone either loves him or hates him...or loves to hate him." |
Not me.6/28/2006 7:23:09 PM |
package2 All American 1450 Posts user info edit post |
yay, he heard how many emails / hits he can get if he puts NC State down 6/28/2006 7:48:47 PM |
Brass Monkey All American 13560 Posts user info edit post |
"Don't make me put a hit out on you Stewie."
6/28/2006 8:08:27 PM |
ssclark Black and Proud 14179 Posts user info edit post |
you may not like him ... but you can't say straight faced he's the absolutle worst coach in d 1 ... 6/28/2006 10:20:53 PM |
packboozie All American 17452 Posts user info edit post |
FIRE HERB NOW! 6/28/2006 10:22:14 PM |
UJustWait84 All American 25821 Posts user info edit post |
well at least he's finally #1 at something
i was expecting #4 or less 6/28/2006 10:47:28 PM |
Ernie All American 45943 Posts user info edit post |
WE SHOULD HAVE A PARADE 6/28/2006 10:52:28 PM |
khufu All American 2103 Posts user info edit post |
No he's not the worst coach in D-I. But I think the point of the article was to note on how much talent comes through NCSU, and this is what Chuck has done with it. er something. But no, he's definitely not the worst D-I coach. 6/28/2006 11:06:12 PM |
rallydurham Suspended 11317 Posts user info edit post |
as an overall package (recruiting included) he isnt the worst coach in d-1...
but as a tactical coach he's pretty damn terrible. I can count the times on one hand that I remember thinking we werent outcoached during the game under his regime....
His game preparation stinks and he's unable to get a team to be consistent over the course of a season (think of the '02 collapse, the '05 start, etc)
he makes stupid decisions like kicking FG's at the end of the game when we're down 7 (VT this year)
our players constantly commit deadball penalties and lack discipline...
Three first round picks and we had to squeeze out bowl eligibility in a weak conference? I know our QB play was atrocious, but should it really take 1.5 seasons of misery before someone decides to utilize the running game instead?? 6/28/2006 11:06:42 PM |
khufu All American 2103 Posts user info edit post |
^agreed 6/28/2006 11:10:51 PM |
Brass Monkey All American 13560 Posts user info edit post |
i agreed with most of what you said except for this. i mean the ACC isn't the MAC, the Mountain West, or even the Big Least. the ACC is one of the most talent loaded conferences in the country as exhibited by this past years draft.6/28/2006 11:16:28 PM |
UJustWait84 All American 25821 Posts user info edit post |
sure as hell wasn't last year 6/28/2006 11:21:56 PM |
rallydurham Suspended 11317 Posts user info edit post |
The ACC sucked dick last year. 6/28/2006 11:22:38 PM |
Brass Monkey All American 13560 Posts user info edit post |
the defense in the ACC was great for the most part, but their were hardly any good QB's last year which led to a lot of anemic offenses. the ACC didn't have any NC caliber teams, but did have plenty of teams that could beat nearly anybody in the country on any given day. there was a lot of parity, and the teams beat up on each other, like the way the SEC is usually. the jury's still out on whether that was a good thing or a bad thing for the league. i mean VT was considered the NC contender out of the league but promptly got beat down by a Miami team that goes on to lose to an ok GT team at the OB. then VT loses to a 4 loss FSU team in the ACCCG. it was one batshit crazy year for ACC football. 6/28/2006 11:28:03 PM |
rallydurham Suspended 11317 Posts user info edit post |
yeah i can see where you're going with that... overall it was fairly weak though... we didnt fare well outside the conference thats for sure.
it doesnt matter, we're never going to amount to shit as long as we have a QB who cant run or pass for first downs...
theres no reason to get all worked up about NC State football, just enjoy the beer, music, friends, & food at the tailgate.
Tailgating also gives you a perfect opportunity to meet 18 year girls, so seriously let the football stuff go and just concentrate on whats important.
College football is such a sub-standard product anyway, save your energy for the NFL. 6/28/2006 11:31:50 PM |
Brass Monkey All American 13560 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "so seriously let the football stuff go and just concentrate on whats important, fucking hot bitches!" |
we shouldn't have been squeezing into a bowl. i mean how the hell does one beat GT and FSU on the road and not beat UNC and Wake. 6/28/2006 11:37:10 PM |
BDubLS1 All American 10406 Posts user info edit post |
i agree with everything it said...he needs to produce this year or next (atleast at or above expectations) or he is gone...
Sporting News says this is the beginning of the collapse of nc state football (again) 6/28/2006 11:44:22 PM |
zebranky All American 1668 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "The ACC sucked dick last year." |
6/29/2006 12:07:19 AM |
jprince11 All American 14181 Posts user info edit post |
pretty ignorant article, just cause you happen to have a few players at the top draft doesn't mean a whole, basketball yes, football no
Quote : | "as an overall package (recruiting included) he isnt the worst coach in d-1...
but as a tactical coach he's pretty damn terrible. I can count the times on one hand that I remember thinking we werent outcoached during the game under his regime....
His game preparation stinks and he's unable to get a team to be consistent over the course of a season (think of the '02 collapse, the '05 start, etc)
he makes stupid decisions like kicking FG's at the end of the game when we're down 7 (VT this year)
our players constantly commit deadball penalties and lack discipline...
Three first round picks and we had to squeeze out bowl eligibility in a weak conference? I know our QB play was atrocious, but should it really take 1.5 seasons of misery before someone decides to utilize the running game instead??
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but yea I agree
[Edited on June 29, 2006 at 1:05 AM. Reason : k]6/29/2006 1:03:13 AM |
ActionPants All American 9877 Posts user info edit post |
He's a hell of a fundraiser and a decent recruiter but I agree he's a bad sideline coach and he doesn't seem to be able to reach the players.
I still say fire Fowler and make Amato the AD. 6/29/2006 2:24:42 AM |
skokiaan All American 26447 Posts user info edit post |
amato doesnt reach the players? wtf? 6/29/2006 2:53:33 AM |
vinylbandit All American 48079 Posts user info edit post |
Amato doesn't reach the players.
Please to see our penalty statistics when the team motto was "DISCIPLINE." 6/29/2006 3:28:36 AM |
AJB420 All American 614 Posts user info edit post |
"Yes, that's right, Kentucky fans, Brooks earned a reprieve this year. After a fairly disastrous first two seasons in which rumors circulated almost daily that he wanted out, Brooks finally seemed more comfortable last season, and the Wildcats showed signs of progress on the field."
Brooks is definitly the worst...no doubt about it. Thank God UK will fire him this year if they don't go 6-6. 6/29/2006 8:46:47 AM |
msb2ncsu All American 14033 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "Amato doesn't reach the players.
Please to see our penalty statistics when the team motto was "DISCIPLINE."" |
The penalty situation was completely turned around We actually eneded up pretty decent in team penalties. I know Carolina was more penalized by the end of the year.6/29/2006 8:57:52 AM |
ActionPants All American 9877 Posts user info edit post |
Regardless of penalties, SI is right. Amato's teams underachieve like WHOA. 6/29/2006 8:59:08 AM |
Brass Monkey All American 13560 Posts user info edit post |
Amato isn't a great coach right now, but to call him the worst is a little asinine. I mean there are a couple in this conference that are above Amato in that regards. On a scale of 1-10 I'd give Amato a 6 due to the past two years. Once we fix the offense, and hopefully the defense doesn't fall off too much from the past two years, then we should be a good team. 6/29/2006 8:59:36 AM |
ActionPants All American 9877 Posts user info edit post |
Yeah, he's not the worst.
I still think a lot of people would be better though. Even somebody like Steve Logan. 6/29/2006 9:04:41 AM |
Crazywade All American 4918 Posts user info edit post |
PLease, nobody else's trash ok? 6/29/2006 9:24:10 AM |
TreeTwista10 minisoldr 148457 Posts user info edit post |
how many coaches in America have ever had 11 win seasons?
Cause Amato has 6/29/2006 9:46:47 AM |
ActionPants All American 9877 Posts user info edit post |
How many coaches in America have had Philip Rivers?
Cause Amato has
How many coaches in America have recruited a player like Philip Rivers?
Cause Amato hasn't 6/29/2006 9:56:13 AM |
wlb420 All American 9053 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "how many coaches in America have ever had 11 win seasons?
Cause Amato Rivers has" |
6/29/2006 9:57:48 AM |
TreeTwista10 minisoldr 148457 Posts user info edit post |
how many state fans shit on our football program?
cause yall do 6/29/2006 10:00:33 AM |
wlb420 All American 9053 Posts user info edit post |
I'm not calling for Amato's head or anything, but the fact is, we haven't done anything to speak of offensively since Rivers left, but that can always change this year. and i hope it does. 6/29/2006 10:03:06 AM |
ActionPants All American 9877 Posts user info edit post |
I'm just saying our players the last two seasons were good enough to do a lot better than they did, but they didn't because they had no leadership
I always got the impression that Rivers was always basically like the coach on the field which was fine except we don't have a replacement for that now, including the actual coach 6/29/2006 10:03:39 AM |
packboozie All American 17452 Posts user info edit post |
With Brown and Baker, Stone SHOULD improve. I mean this will be his 4th year on the team and working out. He has the same coordinator this year so no excuses. Put up or let's see Evans or Burke.
[Edited on June 29, 2006 at 10:04 AM. Reason : .] 6/29/2006 10:04:32 AM |
wlb420 All American 9053 Posts user info edit post |
we had top 10 D's the past 2 seasons, but didn't get a bowl one year, and barely squeaked into one last year....mainly b/c our offense usually looked like they placed a bet on the other team to win. 6/29/2006 10:05:35 AM |
TreeTwista10 minisoldr 148457 Posts user info edit post |
^^yeah thats what i'm hoping
^true but a good quarterback is very important to lead a team...like a point guard...and we didnt really have that with jay davis 6/29/2006 10:08:02 AM |