TGD All American 8912 Posts user info edit post |
I tell you what, I'm so moved by this sacrifice I'm going to write my Congressman to demand an end to the war right now!
http://www.breitbart.com/news/2006/07/03/060703223431.le4pgg36.html
Quote : | "US stars align in anti-Iraq war hunger strike Jul 03 6:34 PM US/Eastern
Star Hollywood actor-activists including Sean Penn and Susan Sarandon and anti-war campaigners led by bereaved mother Cindy Sheehan plan to launch a hunger strike, demanding the immediate return of US troops from Iraq.
As Americans get set to fire up barbeques in patriotic celebration of US Independence Day on July 4, anti-war protestors planned to savour a last meal outside the White House, before embarking on a 'Troops Home Fast' at midnight.
"We've marched, held vigils, lobbied Congress, camped out at Bush's ranch, we've even gone to jail, now it's time to do more," said Sheehan, who emerged as an anti-war icon after losing her 24-year-old son Casey in Iraq.
The hunger strike was the latest bid by the US anti-war movement to grab hold of American public opinion, after numerous marches, vigils and political campaigns.
Despite polls which show the Iraq war is unpopular and many Americans are skeptical of President George W. Bush's wartime leadership, peace protests have not hit the opinion-swaying critical mass seen during Vietnam War.
"We have been continually sheltered from the actual cost of war from the beginning," said Meredith Dearborn, of human rights group Global Exchange, explaining how anti-Iraq war protests have stuttered.
While 2,526 US soldiers have died since the US-led invasion of Iraq in 2003, according to an AFP tally based on Pentagon figures, the impact of the deaths has rarely dominated headlines.
While it is not unusual to see an Iraq-war veteran or amputee in an airport for instance, or newspaper features on horrific injuries inflicted by roadside bombs in Iraq, the United States hardly feels like a nation at war.
Some protestors and experts in public opinion put that down to the absence of the Vietnam War style conscription draft, which means only professional soldiers or reservists can be sent off to war.
"We have done everything we could think of to end this war, we have protested, held marches, vigils ... lobbied, written letters to Congress," said Dearborn.
"Now it is time to bring the pain and suffering of war home. We are putting our bodies on the line for peace."
Perhaps the only time the anti-Iraq war movement captured lasting coverage was in August 2005, when Sheehan and supporters pitched camp outside Bush's Texas ranch, where the president habitually stays in high summer.
Even then, the fiercely partisan debate unleashed may have harmed Sheehan, who faced fierce fire from conservative groups and radio talk show hosts, as much as it hurt the Bush administration's image over Iraq.
The hunger strike will see at least four activists, Sheehan, veteran comedian and peace campaigner Dick Gregory, former army colonel Ann Wright and environmental campaigner Diane Wilson launch serious, long-term fasts.
"I don't know how long I can fast, but I am making this open-ended," said Wilson.
Other supporters, including Penn, Sarandon, novelist Alice Walker and actor Danny Glover will join a 'rolling" fast, a relay in which 2,700 activists pledge to refuse food for at least 24 hours, and then hand over to a comrade.
Though the anti-war movement is trying hard to puncture public perceptions, some experts believe such protests have little impact on how Americans view foreign wars.
Ohio State University professor John Mueller for example, argued in the Foreign Affairs journal in December, that only rising US casualties could be proven to erode public support for a conflict.
Anti-war movements during the Korean and Iraq wars have been comparitively invisible, but public support had eroded in a similar way to the Vietnam conflict, in which the peace movement played a dominant role, he wrote.
Recent polls reveal public scepticism over Iraq, and damage to Bush's personal ratings.
In a poll in Time magazine published Friday, only 33 percent of respondents approved of Bush's leadership on Iraq while 64 percent said they disapproved his handling of the campaign.
A Pew Research Center poll released on June 20, found that only 35 percent of Americans approved of Bush's handling of the Iraqi conflict -- though that was up five percent from a similar poll in February." |
7/4/2006 9:28:30 AM |
EarthDogg All American 3989 Posts user info edit post |
No pain for Gain.
Kinda reminiscent of how Congress rearranged things so you can have a filibuster and everybody still gets to go home at night. 7/4/2006 10:05:33 AM |
Shaggy All American 17820 Posts user info edit post |
ITS A NEW DIET FAD! 7/4/2006 11:41:18 AM |
spöokyjon ℵ 18617 Posts user info edit post |
This is so fucking stupid. 7/4/2006 11:46:24 AM |
1337 b4k4 All American 10033 Posts user info edit post |
This must have been thought up by the same people that came up with the "don't buy gas for a day" thing. 7/4/2006 11:54:14 AM |
skokiaan All American 26447 Posts user info edit post |
They should, instead, donate their time and money to finding a Democratic party leader who has more intelligence than a shoe box. 7/4/2006 12:18:08 PM |
marko Tom Joad 72828 Posts user info edit post |
this will never stand in obese amurica 7/4/2006 12:43:12 PM |
Aficionado Suspended 22518 Posts user info edit post |
wow i hate people so much 7/4/2006 12:45:40 PM |
Gamecat All American 17913 Posts user info edit post |
I don't know what's funnier. This fast, or the fact that the Iraq War doesn't even need successsful protests for public support to line the septic tank... 7/4/2006 12:47:39 PM |
trikk311 All American 2793 Posts user info edit post |
I am thinking that this stupidity will actually increase support for the war
i mean...support couldnt really get much lower soo... 7/4/2006 1:28:59 PM |
Wolfpack2K All American 7059 Posts user info edit post |
If they're going to have a fast, they should do it right - each one should individually refuse food until the war is ended. Hopefully they would all starve to death, but at least it would be a real sacrifice. 7/4/2006 1:31:26 PM |
bgmims All American 5895 Posts user info edit post |
You mean some hippies might starve to death? This might just make me want to go to war more often. 7/4/2006 3:28:40 PM |
TGD All American 8912 Posts user info edit post |
7/4/2006 6:34:27 PM |
quiet guy Suspended 3020 Posts user info edit post |
This would be more impressive if Michael Moore were participating 7/4/2006 6:47:31 PM |
30thAnnZ Suspended 31803 Posts user info edit post |
he could probably go until the end of the century 7/4/2006 6:53:04 PM |
Republican18 All American 16575 Posts user info edit post |
so the millionaire celebs are gonna stop eating their 5 star meals for 24 hours, big fuckin sacrafice 7/4/2006 6:59:37 PM |
Josh8315 Suspended 26780 Posts user info edit post |
its funny how much this story enrages you people 7/4/2006 7:06:11 PM |
kdawg(c) Suspended 10008 Posts user info edit post |
maybe we should do the same thing for them as we did for those held at Gitmo Bay 7/4/2006 7:37:07 PM |
SandSanta All American 22435 Posts user info edit post |
I bet they don't count Iced Mochas as meals. 7/4/2006 9:37:25 PM |
Mindstorm All American 15858 Posts user info edit post |
So about four people will actually starve themselves, and the rest will skip eating for a single day.
What's up with the halfassed protest movements? 7/4/2006 9:47:08 PM |
TGD All American 8912 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "Josh8315: its funny how much this story enrages you people" |
don't confuse rage with bemusement 7/4/2006 11:11:20 PM |
Scuba Steve All American 6931 Posts user info edit post |
Remember, you are only a patriotic American if you like stupid, unwinnable wars 7/4/2006 11:27:41 PM |
mathman All American 1631 Posts user info edit post |
^for example, the war on poverty. 7/5/2006 12:32:40 AM |
billyboy All American 3174 Posts user info edit post |
^It depends on what side you think we're on.
Somewhere, well probably India, Gandhi is rolling in his grave over this fast. This may be the worst idea for a protest that I have ever heard, yet I can't stop laughing. 7/5/2006 1:32:47 AM |
Wolfpack2K All American 7059 Posts user info edit post |
7/5/2006 1:33:32 AM |
bgmims All American 5895 Posts user info edit post |
Sheehan, good to see she's stopped attention whoring, isn't it? 7/5/2006 7:20:43 AM |
Josh8315 Suspended 26780 Posts user info edit post |
you know whats funnier then the hunger strike?
...
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HER SON WAS KILLED IN IRAQ
AHHAAHHAHAHAHAHAHHHAHHAHAHHAAHHAHAHAH
breath
AHHAHAHAHAHAHHHHAHAHAHAHAHAH
[Edited on July 5, 2006 at 9:13 AM. Reason : AHHAHAHAHAHAHHHHAHAHAHAHAHAH] 7/5/2006 9:13:06 AM |
Shaggy All American 17820 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "This would be more impressive if Michael Moore were participating" |
he will join them in a seperate fast, refusing to eat for 5 minutes every day, for the next 10 years.7/5/2006 10:37:03 AM |
Gamecat All American 17913 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "What's up with the halfassed protest movements?" |
To quote Bob Dylan: "I used to care, but times have changed."7/5/2006 11:29:31 AM |
slackerb All American 5093 Posts user info edit post |
Fuck you guys, I'm joining in on the fast. From 1pm, immediately after I have my lunch, to 7pm tonight, I will participate in my portion of this rolling fast protest. 7/5/2006 11:37:36 AM |
Mr. Joshua Swimfanfan 43948 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "Somewhere, well probably India, Gandhi is rolling in his grave over this fast." |
A pile of ashes can't turn over.7/5/2006 11:50:27 AM |
jbtilley All American 12797 Posts user info edit post |
^^I think the idea of a 24 hour rolling fast isn't passing the torch after 6 hours to give someone else a shift until a 24 hour period has been covered. I thought the idea was fasting for 24 hours and passing the torch off to someone else that fasts for 24 hours - such that at any given time someone, somewhere is fasting. Meh, I'm probably wrong.
Good for them though. 7/5/2006 12:01:49 PM |
Mr. Joshua Swimfanfan 43948 Posts user info edit post |
7/5/2006 12:12:47 PM |
Jere Suspended 4838 Posts user info edit post |
^^that was very obviously sarcasm
the point is a "rolling" fast is fucking stupid; 24 hours is hardly a fast at all and it doesn't mean anything if people are collectively starving 7/5/2006 2:30:57 PM |
billyboy All American 3174 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "A pile of ashes can't turn over." |
Haha, you know what I meant.7/5/2006 2:50:45 PM |
Maverick All American 11175 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "A pile of ashes can't turn over." |
I'm really tired this afternoon, so excuse this question, but what exactly does this refer to? Was Ghandi not shot?
[Edited on July 5, 2006 at 2:59 PM. Reason : .]7/5/2006 2:56:01 PM |
quiet guy Suspended 3020 Posts user info edit post |
cremation 7/5/2006 3:10:46 PM |
Maverick All American 11175 Posts user info edit post |
Ah. I saw the burning monk photo and thought they were mistakenly referring to that.
[Edited on July 5, 2006 at 3:16 PM. Reason : .] 7/5/2006 3:15:13 PM |
Mr. Joshua Swimfanfan 43948 Posts user info edit post |
No, I just put that up to remind people of what makes a good protest. 7/5/2006 3:22:04 PM |
GoldenViper All American 16056 Posts user info edit post |
24 hours is actually a pretty long time to go without eating anything.
Is water allowed? 7/5/2006 9:44:15 PM |
TGD All American 8912 Posts user info edit post |
^ since when? 7/5/2006 10:35:33 PM |
Waluigi All American 2384 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "for example, the war on poverty. " |
*sigh* compassionate conservatism...7/6/2006 12:10:37 PM |