1in10^9 All American 7451 Posts user info edit post |
http://news.yahoo.com/s/nm/20060720/us_nm/rights_gays_dc
Quote : | "PROVINCETOWN, Massachusetts (Reuters) - Provincetown, New England's summer gay capital, is facing a rise in harassment and discrimination. But this time it's straight people who say they are being ridiculed as "breeders" and "baby makers." ADVERTISEMENT
Less than a decade after a successful campaign to end violent paroxysms of "gay bashing" in the beach town at the tip of Cape Cod in Massachusetts, police and town officials report a resurgence in tension between gays and straight people.
Police Chief Ted Meyer said straight people complained of being called "breeders" over the July Fourth holiday weekend, and that in one serious incident a man was charged with assaulting a woman who signed a petition to ban same-sex marriage in Massachusetts, the only state where it is legal.
Equally troubling, he said, Jamaican workers in Provincetown say they have been the target of racial slurs.
"It's been a series of issues," Meyer said.
The flare-ups in a town that overflows in summer with a colorful mix of gay couples often openly holding hands or kissing, cross-dressers and flocks of curious tourists coincide with a planned vote this year in the state Legislature on an amendment to ban gay marriage -- a measure that has rallied activists on both sides of the issue.
Gay-marriage advocates have set up a Web site -- http://www.knowthyneighbor.org -- that publishes the names of people who have signed the petition, including at least two locals in Provincetown who say they have been singled out and verbally abused by gays since their names appeared on the Web site.
Town officials said the town is struggling to strike a balance between protecting the right to freedom of expression for petition signers, and ensuring its gay majority contain their anger at what many see as an assault on their hard-won right to marriage.
Police would not classify the slurs and name-calling as "hate crimes." But a town meeting was called last Friday to discuss whether social attitudes were changing in the gay resort village with a population of 3,431 that swells to 60,000 in summer and includes a large number of Jamaicans.
'HELLO, YOU'RE IN OUR TOWN'
"We have business that we haven't talked about as a family," Town Manager Keith Bergman said. "The impact of the same sex marriage petition is high on that list."
Some gays expressed shock at being accused of discrimination after years of suffering harassment.
"There are still a lot of straight people who treat gays badly," said Steve Bowersock, 35, an artist who owns the Bowersock Gallery on the town's main Commercial Street.
Bowersock, who was once married to a woman, said he moved to Provincetown in 2004 with his partner because it gives gays a political voice. He admits he sometimes discriminates against straight people he finds offensive
"If there's a straight couple and I hear them in the background going 'oh fags', I'm like 'hello, where the hell do you think you are?' So in turn I get mad," he said.
"If I see someone nervous like a big butch guy, and you can just tell he's a redneck, I'll grab my partner and I'll kiss him. It's not being mean, but 'hello you're in our town'."
The Rev. Henry J. Dahl, pastor at St. Peter's Church, said several of his parishioners had complained to him of being singled out and verbally abused after signing the petition.
"I don't think it's totally unexpected that there would be some reaction to people who signed the petition," he said. "Let's just hope we can have civil discourse."
Joe Solmonese, president of gay rights group Human Rights Campaign, said the petition signers invited trouble by taking a position that says "loud and clear that you believe that gays and lesbians should be treated as second class citizens." " |
7/20/2006 8:12:58 PM |
Aficionado Suspended 22518 Posts user info edit post |
god damn i hate people a little more each day 7/20/2006 8:16:24 PM |
burr0sback Suspended 977 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "Police would not classify the slurs and name-calling as "hate crimes."" |
wait. so I call someone a fag and it's a hate crime. someone calls me a breeder, and it's not? hmmm...7/20/2006 8:29:31 PM |
Kris All American 36908 Posts user info edit post |
They're homos
are you really scared of a little girly man calling you names? 7/20/2006 8:36:58 PM |
boonedocks All American 5550 Posts user info edit post |
How is this news/postworthy?
In the gay vacation spot of the US, homos and heteros get into arguments
[Edited on July 20, 2006 at 9:04 PM. Reason : o rly?] 7/20/2006 8:54:44 PM |
UJustWait84 All American 25821 Posts user info edit post |
you can't swing a dead cat in Ptown without hitting a faggot
i don't know why straight couples would even want to go there when there's plenty of other places to go on the cape
i think it's funny that they feel harassed and intimidated by a bunch of sassy homosexuals 7/20/2006 9:17:08 PM |
bgmims All American 5895 Posts user info edit post |
I think what's postworthy is the hypocrisy involved. Fighting for your rights and against discrimination, and then doing the same damn thing is pretty shitty of them 7/20/2006 9:18:45 PM |
boonedocks All American 5550 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "i think it's funny that they feel harassed and intimidated by a bunch of sassy homosexuals" |
Ahahaha, exactly.
BREAKING NEWS: GAYS TEND TO BE SASSY, STRAIGHT PEOPLE FEEL THREATENED. DEVELOPING...
[Edited on July 20, 2006 at 9:27 PM. Reason : .]7/20/2006 9:23:44 PM |
Scuba Steve All American 6931 Posts user info edit post |
So evidently being gay doesn't stop you from being racist, funny 7/20/2006 9:23:53 PM |
spöokyjon ℵ 18617 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "wait. so I call someone a fag and it's a hate crime. someone calls me a breeder, and it's not? hmmm..." |
I'm not saying it's never happened, because I don't know, but can you find a single case where a person has been convicted of a hate crime for calling somebody a faggot?7/20/2006 9:24:14 PM |
bgmims All American 5895 Posts user info edit post |
Its usually in addition to beating the shit out of them...so you may be right on that
But even without the hate crime issue, I'd bet if you called someone a fag who called you a breeder, you'd get labeled as the bigot. 7/20/2006 9:25:16 PM |
UJustWait84 All American 25821 Posts user info edit post |
did you even read the article?
Quote : | ""If there's a straight couple and I hear them in the background going 'oh fags', I'm like 'hello, where the hell do you think you are?' So in turn I get mad," he said." |
The majority of people who live in Provincetown are gay, so when straight people come to visit their town as tourists and make anti-gay remarks what are they supposed to do?
I wouldn't go to China and call everyone a bunch of chinks and then bitch when they called me 'white devil' or trailor trash- THAT would be hypocritical.7/20/2006 9:25:41 PM |
boonedocks All American 5550 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "Fighting for your rights and against discrimination, and then doing the same damn thing is pretty shitty of them" |
Ummm, where does it say they're discriminating against straight people? They're -allegedly- confronting the petition signers.
And I'd like to hear what these people consider to be "verbal abuse."7/20/2006 9:28:15 PM |
SaabTurbo All American 25459 Posts user info edit post |
I really don't see why people care so much about this. 7/20/2006 9:33:15 PM |
bgmims All American 5895 Posts user info edit post |
I don't REALLY care about this, but I just thought it was noteworthy enough to make it to TWW 7/20/2006 9:39:23 PM |
Protostar All American 3495 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "I wouldn't go to China and call everyone a bunch of chinks and then bitch when they called me 'white devil' or trailor trash- THAT would be hypocritical." |
dude, if you went to china and said that, you'd have a helluva lot more to worry about than what people were saying.
that said, what is the point of the article? Some homosexuals are assholes. So what? There are assholes in every demographic. That doesn't mean they represent all of gays. But considering how alot of gays are treated, I don't blame them for having anger towards homosexuals. I'd be angry too if I was treated like trash all my life by my peers and oftentimes family.7/20/2006 9:51:28 PM |
burr0sback Suspended 977 Posts user info edit post |
sooooo, you say that the way to rail against intolerance and cruelty is by being cruel and intolerant... got it! 7/20/2006 10:24:40 PM |
boonedocks All American 5550 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "cruel and intolerant" |
Where does the article say the gays were being cruel and intolerant
AND YES, FOR WHAT I WISH WOULD BE THE LAST TIME; IT'S OK AND NOT AT ALL HYPROCRITICAL TO BE INTOLERANT TOWARDS INTOLERANCE.7/21/2006 12:06:55 AM |
joe_schmoe All American 18758 Posts user info edit post |
7/21/2006 2:08:15 AM |
Contrast All American 869 Posts user info edit post |
Neither gay people nor straight people make any goddamned sense to me. 7/21/2006 2:36:10 AM |
Excoriator Suspended 10214 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "Gay-marriage advocates have set up a Web site -- http://www.knowthyneighbor.org -- that publishes the names of people who have signed the petition" |
that's awesome - kind of like baptists like to hang around outside strip clubs and post pictures of the customers..... awww, can't take the heat? don't dish it out, assholes.7/21/2006 6:53:24 AM |
jbtilley All American 12797 Posts user info edit post |
I liked the gays better when they couldn't get married
Quote : | "ridiculed as "breeders" and "baby makers."" |
Oh no the evil breeders. How is that an insult?
Quote : | "PEOPLE LIKE YOU FACILITATED MY EXISTENCE " |
[Edited on July 21, 2006 at 9:05 AM. Reason : -]7/21/2006 9:05:15 AM |
super ben All American 508 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "I'm like 'hello, where the hell do you think you are?'" |
Haha you have to read that quote like Nathan Lane in Birdcage. You can't help it!!!7/21/2006 9:21:59 AM |
sarijoul All American 14208 Posts user info edit post |
Note: Al Franken is straight. 7/21/2006 9:25:12 AM |
30thAnnZ Suspended 31803 Posts user info edit post |
no, no he's not.
he's extremely gay. i don't care what he says or if he fucks 15 women per hour, he's still insanely gay. 7/21/2006 9:32:07 AM |
sarijoul All American 14208 Posts user info edit post |
it's because he's a democrat i get it. and you like stereotypes. stereotypes are fun!
(note: Al Franken is married) 7/21/2006 9:35:45 AM |
pwrstrkdf250 Suspended 60006 Posts user info edit post |
[Edited on July 21, 2006 at 9:39 AM. Reason : sdjfisdhf]
7/21/2006 9:38:38 AM |
30thAnnZ Suspended 31803 Posts user info edit post |
no. not because he's a democrat, but because he's extremely gay. very very gay.
he walks gay, he talks gay, he's fucking gay. and he's not funny in the least. 7/21/2006 9:38:42 AM |
pwrstrkdf250 Suspended 60006 Posts user info edit post |
I concur, has nothing to do with his leanings, he just looks, walks, talks like a gay guy 7/21/2006 9:39:50 AM |
sarijoul All American 14208 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "stereotypes are fun!" |
7/21/2006 9:42:43 AM |
TreeTwista10 minisoldr 148441 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "But considering how alot of gays are treated, I don't blame them for having anger towards heterosexuals. I'd be angry too if I was treated like trash all my life by my peers and oftentimes family" |
I do blame them...they're the ones who sucked cocks and took it in their assholes like flaming faggots, not the heterosexuals7/21/2006 10:48:40 AM |
SandSanta All American 22435 Posts user info edit post |
wow. 7/21/2006 10:59:51 AM |
TreeTwista10 minisoldr 148441 Posts user info edit post |
^hey, you're a descendent of a Middle East country right? You guys dont like fags either 7/21/2006 11:01:39 AM |
burr0sback Suspended 977 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "IT'S OK AND NOT AT ALL HYPROCRITICAL TO BE INTOLERANT TOWARDS INTOLERANCE." |
it's one thing not to tolerate intolerance. It's entirely another thing to show the same intolerance to people who you once claimed were so bad for being intolerant of you.7/22/2006 8:59:59 PM |
UJustWait84 All American 25821 Posts user info edit post |
it's no worse than being intolerant in the first place 7/22/2006 11:33:29 PM |
Contrast All American 869 Posts user info edit post |
Al Franken is metro. It's a fine line. 7/22/2006 11:45:08 PM |
rowman New Recruit 4 Posts user info edit post |
if people dont get over shit then nothing will get better, escalation through retaliation cannot acomplish anything positive, and its time people realized that. 7/23/2006 3:07:39 AM |
UJustWait84 All American 25821 Posts user info edit post |
right
which is why the civil rights movement during the 60s was a total waste of time
that Rosa Parks bitch was so out of line, FUCK HER!!!1 7/23/2006 11:52:39 AM |
spöokyjon ℵ 18617 Posts user info edit post |
Hey, remember when Rosa Parks created great social changes by calling white people "honkeys"? 7/23/2006 1:35:06 PM |
E30turbo Suspended 1520 Posts user info edit post |
lets email them and ask them "Is it possible to sign the petition online? I dont see a link." 7/24/2006 9:15:31 AM |
Protostar All American 3495 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "I do blame them...they're the ones who sucked cocks and took it in their assholes like flaming faggots, not the heterosexuals" |
I know, what the hell where they thinking? Following their instincts and feelings. Shoud have just supressed it and fallen in lock step with the rest of the populus right?7/24/2006 11:58:43 PM |
Dentaldamn All American 9974 Posts user info edit post |
i know straight dudes who like stuff up their ass. They are all republicans.
GIGGIDY!!!!!!! 7/25/2006 12:20:52 AM |
ssjamind All American 30102 Posts user info edit post |
"breeder" or "babymaker" would offend me as much as "dothead"
which means pretty much not at all, because its true 7/25/2006 10:22:11 AM |
Schuchula Veteran 138 Posts user info edit post |
"Breeder" sounds gay. Why not something cool, like "subjugator" or "enforcer"? 7/25/2006 11:04:09 AM |
jbtilley All American 12797 Posts user info edit post |
^well, the people that are calling others "breeders" are gay. 7/25/2006 12:25:04 PM |
zenobia0000 All American 677 Posts user info edit post |
oh the hilarity of it all.
i think its about time oppressive motherfuckers (the petiton signers in this case) were a little oppressed themselves, don't you ever think, "what we really need in this case, is good and thorough ass-kicking," and that's kind of what they're getting. 7/25/2006 1:17:17 PM |