From 2:30 tomorrow morning until tomorrow night, its football, basketball, and baseball, all State. I'm pretty sure we win all of 'em except the Miami game from last year.

Just a heads up, prolly old.

8/9/2006 12:53:23 PM

shit i wish time warner was worth a fuck and carried ESPNU

8/9/2006 1:06:37 PM

yea thats the one thing I'll give Adelphia. They suck complete ass at everything else except for high speed internet and they carry some obscure-ass channels. (everything except WWE 24/7 )

8/9/2006 1:08:01 PM

^^seriously

i want my ESPNU, ESPN2 HD, NFL Network, NFL Network HD, etc

fuck time warner

8/9/2006 2:20:05 PM

Its ESPN's fault that you don't have ESPNU and ESPN2HD... they are asking for an arm and a leg from the cable companies and they can't keep upping the price of cable. Heard recently that ESPN alone gets $3 per subscriber to cable.

8/9/2006 2:34:50 PM

Yeah i am glad Time Warner doesn't carry it because of the price, because you know if they did the cost of cable for the subscriber would increase and I already think I am paying too much.

8/9/2006 2:43:53 PM

they can put it in a seperate package, i don't give a shit, i'll buy it. i just want a way to get the fucking channels.

8/9/2006 2:50:52 PM

Putting it into a special package isn't enough... the cost to TWC would be greater than what they get from the people who do pay for the extra package. Like I said, ESPN gets $3 per basic cable subscription, if that puts it in perspective at all. Its not like TWC can just say "Hey we have these couple hundred people who want this channel you have so let us broadcast it to them and we can give you their money"... shit doesn't work like that. ESPN and all of its subsequent stations will be premium, like HBO, in the very near future. Cable companies simply can't piggyback the fee on their own. ESPN is a bully with their content. Hell, just look at how their website has hardly any free content anymore, its all Insider.

8/9/2006 2:57:11 PM

yeah this is related to the ESPN's parent company Disney and Time Warner threatening to pull the plug from all it's channels because Disney pretty much cornered Time Warner about the price for it's stations. During this time a couple of years back you might remember messages on the screen announcing the potential of ABC, ESPN, Disney and thier related channels being removed from the cable package.

8/9/2006 3:50:10 PM

I really hope we'll eventually make it to a by the channel cable subscription setup, course then we'll be getting reamed worse on channel prices

8/9/2006 3:51:58 PM

a la carte cable choices sounds great on paper but in all honesty it's a really bad decision for several reasons.

8/9/2006 3:53:47 PM

Wow, this whole NC State day thing sounds really cool, I just only wish that I had ESPNU, or was off from work tommorrow to watch everything...

[Edited on August 9, 2006 at 3:57 PM. Reason : A day for NC State is a good day to me!]

8/9/2006 3:56:56 PM

NFL Network wants to be THE biggest cable network so I kinda understand Time Warner not getting it...although I won't understand in a couple months during NFL season

However the ESPN thing is pathetic...Time Warner is the 2nd largest cable provider in the country...a bunch of smaller providers offer it...TW sucks

8/9/2006 4:04:06 PM

i can live without espnu

the one i really want is NFL network

8/9/2006 4:23:29 PM

^ I'm the absolute & total opposite of what you just said.

8/9/2006 4:34:29 PM

i want them all

but financially, the nfl network wants more than espn, hence my reasoning that the 2nd biggest US cable provider should be able to afford the "cheaper" of the two

8/9/2006 5:26:02 PM

Before giving TWC a pass and blaming ESPN and the NFL, it should be noted that TWCs rates are some of the highest in the country, and they are reporting record profits (I believe an over $1 billion last quarter). Yet they wont add any channels without raising rates and absorbing the cost, which is something every other major cable operator has been able to do.

The deal with NFL Network is that NFLN wants the channel as part of the expanded basic package, while TWC wants to put it in the sports tier. Now, on first look it sounds like TWC wants to make it so only people that want the channel have to pay for it, when actually they are looking at a chance to potentially double the price of the sports tier and at least double the number of subscribers to it. Every other provider carrying NFLN has placed it in an expanded basic package (without raising rates), so its not that NFLN is asking for something new. Remember, TWC had every opportunity for three years to get this channel when it could have been had for the cheap (before NFL Network began carrying live games), and they chose not to.

Quote :

"yea thats the one thing I'll give Adelphia. "

Adelphia just got bought out by TWC and Comcast. TWC removed NFL Network on 8/1, even though they are supposed to provide 30 days notice to customers when a channel is being removed. NFL Network filed a complaint to the FCC and the FCC forced TWC to turn the channel back on. TWC feels this is doing "harm" to their customers (that extra channel with every preseason NFL game will be such a travesty for the customer base apparently) and is violating their first ammendment rights, and have threatened to sue NFLN.

Not sports related, but TWC has yet to offer StarzHD or Starz On Demand. Starz wants a grand total of $0 to carry both channels. The only stipulation is that the two channels be included with the regular Starz package. TWC, however, wants to charge extra for Starz On Demand.

Im not sure about the rest of you, but considering I can get ESPNU as well as TWICE the HD content with Dish as I can with TWC, my time with TWC is drawing to a close.

8/9/2006 9:48:06 PM

yeah i'm dropping TWC the day i move out of my apartment. right now at uhouse, standard cable is paid for in my rent, so i'm paying the difference to TWC to get digital cable/HD etc.

i would MUCH rather have satellite with dish network or direct tv (nfl ticket), but that would just be dumb right now since i already pay standard cable in my rent.

8/9/2006 10:09:04 PM

just watched the replay of the 2005 FSU game.

It's obvious that Weatherford threw the game, just like McPherson

8/10/2006 6:05:17 PM

I could give a fuck about how much ESPN charges for their channels. Time Warner should give it's customers what they want. I am sure they get requests all the time to include all the available ESPN channels. It doesnt matter anyways b/c soon ESPN will be considered a "Premium" channel like HBO, SKINemax, etc and you will have to pay extra on top of your bill for the "ESPN Package" I guess they will include them all then. But as far as ESPN charging too much....

Quote :

"Time Warner Profits $1 Billion 2Q Anthony Crupi AUGUST 02, 2006 - Time Warner posted a $1 billion profit in the second quarter, versus a loss of $409 million a year ago, thanks to a particularly strong showing at its cable division. The media conglomerate’s Time Warner Cable unit posted revenues of $2.72 billion for the three months ending June 30, a 15 percent boost from the previous year. All told, subscription revenues increased 16 percent versus the second quarter of 2005, as the cable division increased its basic subs base by 18,000, while digital subs rose by 117,000 to 5.8 million, bringing total digital penetration to 53 percent. High-speed data revenues were up 23 percent as Time Warner added 230,000 HSD subs for a total of 5.4 million, while digital-phone subscribers were up by 234,000 for a total of 1.6 million. Average monthly subscription revenue per basic sub for the quarter grew 14 percent to $91, marking the 22nd consecutive quarter of double-digit year-over-year ARPU growth. While the quarterly numbers did not refelect the joint purchase of Adelphia––the deal closed the day before Time Warner’s earnings call––the company revised its full-year outlook, saying that in the wake of the purchase, it now expects a low-single-digit increase in the 2006 full year adjusted OIBDA. Sounding relieved that the deal has finally closed, Time Warner chairman and CEO Dick Parsons said that the cable unit’s focus now rests on integrating the newly acquired Adelphia systems. “First on our list of priorities is upgrading the infrastructure as soon as possible,” Parsons said. Parsons characterized the Adelphia deal as “transformative,” as it not only adds 3.3 million basic cable subs, but also allows Time Warner to “unscramble the egg with Comcast.” The conglomerate is now preparing to dissolve its joint cable venture with Comcast, with which it shares approximately 1.6 million subscribers in Houston and Kansas City. Once the dissolution is complete, Time Warner will take full control of the Kansas City subs and will receive $600 million in cash. Time Warner also had a lot of help from its cable networks division, where revenue increased 9 percent to $2.69 billion. Subscription revenues climbed 9 percent, thanks to higher rates at Turner and HBO as well as the consolidation of Court TV. Ad revenues were up 8 percent, led by 11 percent growth at Turner, a figure that reflects the consolidation of Court TV, which kicked in $127 million in revenue for the first six months of the year. In a Q&A session immediately following the earnings call, Jeff Bewkes, chairman, entertainment and networks group, offered some guidance on the upfront, which continues to drag on as buyers and sellers wrangle over CPMs. Bewkes predicted that the Turner nets “are going to end up at the high end of the cable upfront performance,” and while he didn’t provide any specific dollar amounts, he added that Turner’s ad revenues for the year will be “quite strong competitively in the cable business.” "

8/11/2006 4:25:08 AM

Quote :

"i can live without espnu the one i really want is NFL network"

8/11/2006 10:39:36 AM

i've got that too


believe it or not, it's not that great. There's only so much Rich Eisen I can take though.

FSN has Pacific, Central, and Atlantic, as well as FSN local, so I'm able to grab all my teams off that, and the FSN coastals usually play some really random, and rare games.

[Edited on August 11, 2006 at 11:33 AM. Reason : kd]

8/11/2006 11:31:23 AM

Quote :

"Yeah i am glad Time Warner doesn't carry it because of the price, because you know if they did the cost of cable for the subscriber would increase and I already think I am paying too much."

To hell with that. The amount of money I spend at a bar for ONE NCSU game that I can't catch on my cable TV covers the expense of another "premium" channel for a year. Multiply that by the 10 or so football/basketball games that I have to go to the bar to watch and...yeah that sucks

8/11/2006 1:26:09 PM