shields27 All American 1806 Posts user info edit post |
Favre could announce his retirement within the next hour. Just heard this on The herd. 8/16/2006 11:46:51 AM |
TreeTwista10 minisoldr 148456 Posts user info edit post |
i hope he does 8/16/2006 11:47:38 AM |
Panthro All American 7333 Posts user info edit post |
what an asshole for waiting this long...
three weeks before the regular season starts, and after saying he looks forward to playing with the most talented GB team he has ever been a part of.
Favre fucked GB over.
[Edited on August 16, 2006 at 11:49 AM. Reason : ..] 8/16/2006 11:49:10 AM |
wlfpckJoe All American 1322 Posts user info edit post |
maybe after the first game he realized that he's not really gonna be able to help this team like he thought he would be able to and the best thing for the packers is to let rodgers take over and get experience for the future. 8/16/2006 11:52:44 AM |
PrufrockNCSU All American 24415 Posts user info edit post |
OMGWTFBBQz!
Man I'm glad I haven't had my drafts yet. Not that I was gonna pick Favre anyways.
[Edited on August 16, 2006 at 11:54 AM. Reason : ] 8/16/2006 11:53:49 AM |
ncWOLFsu Gottfather FTL 12586 Posts user info edit post |
yeah i think rodgers would be every bit as effective as favre at this point, if not moreso.
favre is one of the best ever, but he's just past his prime now. 8/16/2006 11:55:24 AM |
vinylbandit All American 48079 Posts user info edit post |
Even if he thinks he can't compete, why not wait until week two or three and make sure he's not just getting down on himself prematurely? That's what Brett Hull did. 8/16/2006 11:55:50 AM |
dweedle All American 77386 Posts user info edit post |
ESPNews doesn't have anything about it on their bottomline 8/16/2006 11:55:59 AM |
ncWOLFsu Gottfather FTL 12586 Posts user info edit post |
note from my fantasy football page on cbs sportsline:
Quote : | "Contrary to Internet reports, Packers QB Brett Favre's 12:30 a.m. ET press conference is expected to be "nothing out of the ordinary," according to an NFL source and will not be the announcement of his retirement, according to well placed Packers sources. Favre simply moved up his press conference to earlier in the day and has held his preseason press conferences on Wednesdays all year long.
Analysis: Speculation was rampant that Favre could have announced plans for his retirement. It looks like this will be just another run-of-the-mill meeting with the media for the future Hall of Famer. Fantasywise, Favre has slipped into a No. 2 Fantasy QB role, worth owning as a backup but not as a starter, even in deeper leagues. He should be a middle- to late-round pick in drafts." |
8/16/2006 11:57:09 AM |
wlb420 All American 9053 Posts user info edit post |
favre became a real douche in his later playing years, icing on the cake if he retires now. 8/16/2006 11:57:14 AM |
packboozie All American 17452 Posts user info edit post |
Favre used to be one of my favorite players but the shit with Javon Walker really changed my opinion of him. I know it would be wrong since he has been there so long, but Green Bay should say fuck off and just leave already and go with Rodgers. 8/16/2006 12:02:19 PM |
ncsuapex SpaceForRent 37776 Posts user info edit post |
He's not announcing his retirement today. It's a planned press conference that's in Green Bays media guide. 8/16/2006 12:06:56 PM |
TreeTwista10 minisoldr 148456 Posts user info edit post |
"I am calling this important press conference today...to let all the people of Green Bay and the rest of the nation...the fans...the coaches...my teammates, past and present....that I have had a wonderful experience during my career in the NFL...however today I must announce...that I will indeed be playing football this season for the Green Bay Packers." 8/16/2006 12:43:10 PM |
BearWhoDrive All American 5385 Posts user info edit post |
"I am calling this important press conference today...to let all the people of Green Bay and the rest of the nation...the fans...the coaches...my teammates, past and present....that I have had a wonderful experience during my career in the NFL...however today I must announce...that I will indeed be playing football this season for the Green Bay Packersshattering the record for career interceptions on my farewell tour of the NFL." 8/16/2006 1:32:48 PM |
Ernie All American 45943 Posts user info edit post |
he's not retiring
he'll be back next year too 8/16/2006 1:34:34 PM |
Panthro All American 7333 Posts user info edit post |
GO FAVRE, GO!
8/16/2006 1:49:16 PM |
Stein All American 19842 Posts user info edit post |
BearWhoDrive has this complex where every time Brett Favre is mentioned he has to talk about how close he is to breaking the all time INT record, while ignoring just how close he is to breaking the all time TD record. 8/16/2006 1:51:17 PM |
wlb420 All American 9053 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "just how close he is to breaking the all time TD record. " |
might be why the selfish bastard won't retire.8/16/2006 1:53:19 PM |
Stein All American 19842 Posts user info edit post |
Explain to me again how he's selfish. 8/16/2006 1:54:00 PM |
steviewonder All American 6194 Posts user info edit post |
vick or favre, who'd you rather have right now? 8/16/2006 1:56:42 PM |
wlb420 All American 9053 Posts user info edit post |
well, he's stated that he's not helping rodgers develop,
calls out javon walker
killing his team b/c he sux but can't let go.....he knows they won't drop him, and he won't retire. 8/16/2006 1:57:12 PM |
Dammit100 All American 17605 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "BearWhoDrive has this complex where every time Brett Favre is mentioned he has to talk about how close he is to breaking the all time INT record, while ignoring just how close he is to breaking the all time TD record." |
well, if he's going to hold both records, it's safe to say he's the Lenny Wilkens of quarterbacking.8/16/2006 2:03:24 PM |
Stein All American 19842 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "vick or favre, who'd you rather have right now?" |
Favre.
Quote : | "well, he's stated that he's not helping rodgers develop," |
Unless I'm mistaken, he explained those comments as something along the lines of "The QB coach knows better what to tell him than I do and my job is to focus on the games"
Quote : | "calls out javon walker" |
Who deserved to be called out. If every GM in the world gave a bigger contract to every player who had one good year then Isiah Thomas jokes wouldn't be nearly as funny.
Quote : | "killing his team b/c he sux but can't let go" |
Now this is just dumb. There were about a million reasons the Packers were terrible last year and realistically, Favre was the least of their issues.8/16/2006 2:07:46 PM |
wlb420 All American 9053 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "Unless I'm mistaken, he explained those comments as something along the lines of "The QB coach knows better what to tell him than I do and my job is to focus on the games"" |
Classic example of backtracking when shit hits the fan.
Quote : | "Who deserved to be called out. If every GM in the world gave a bigger contract to every player who had one good year then Isiah Thomas jokes wouldn't be nearly as funny. " |
i never said walker deserved more money, but it's not a players job to get involed with other players contract issues....he just made things worse.
Quote : | "Now this is just dumb. There were about a million reasons the Packers were terrible last year and realistically, Favre was the least of their issues." |
which is the perfect reason it would have been the best time for Rodgers to start. if they were going to suck anyway, at least they would have got him some playing experience.8/16/2006 2:21:34 PM |
Ernie All American 45943 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "Classic example of backtracking when shit hits the fan." |
more like classic example of a person explaining himself when idiots like you blow a comment way out of proportion
Quote : | "but it's not a players job to get involed with other players contract issues" |
when you're the leader of the team it's your job to have these types of discussions with your teammates
tom brady did the exact same thing this year with branch and no one has said shit8/16/2006 2:30:09 PM |
rwoody Save TWW 37700 Posts user info edit post |
^OHHHHHHHH, so your thread was sarcastic
i completely didnt get it, but i didnt want to ask 8/16/2006 2:34:35 PM |
Stein All American 19842 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "Classic example of backtracking when shit hits the fan." |
I'm going to need you to point out to me where, exactly, shit hit the fan.
I mean, I don't recall anyone other than non-Green Bay fans saying a word about it and most just used it as an excuse to bitch about Favre.
Quote : | "i never said walker deserved more money, but it's not a players job to get involed with other players contract issues....he just made things worse." |
Made things worse by...?
Quote : | "which is the perfect reason it would have been the best time for Rodgers to start. if they were going to suck anyway, at least they would have got him some playing experience." |
Personally, with a questionable at best offensive line I'd prefer Favre at the end of his career rather than Rodgers at the beginning, because (god forbid) Favre getting hurt is a much lighter blow for the future of the team than Rodgers getting injured.8/16/2006 2:34:48 PM |
wlb420 All American 9053 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "more like classic example of a person explaining himself when idiots like you blow a comment way out of proportion
" |
if it was blown out of proportion, he wouldn't have felt the need to smooth things over.
Quote : | "Made things worse by...?" |
taking the focus off what it should be on....playing football
Quote : | "Personally, with a questionable at best offensive line I'd prefer Favre at the end of his career rather than Rodgers at the beginning, because (god forbid) Favre getting hurt is a much lighter blow for the future of the team than Rodgers getting injured. " |
they don't even really know what they have in Rodgers....and he couldn't have done much worse than favre did
Quote : | "tom brady did the exact same thing this year with branch and no one has said shit" |
it was not at all the same thing
stick to baseball Ernie8/16/2006 2:46:29 PM |
rallydurham Suspended 11317 Posts user info edit post |
I think its bullshit that Favre (who is grossly overpaid at like $12 million probably) calls out Javon Walker who was a PRO BOWL WR(!!!) and was under contract for $600K.
Walker reports and tears his ACL and boom, his big contract day is gone.
Favre was being a bitch in that situation, you cant say he wasnt....
And Vick is clearly better than Favre at this point in their careers, no one would argue that.
Favre is still one of the top 20 QB's in the game though, no doubt. And since that division sucks dogsac, i can see him giving it one last go...
The NFC is stacked this year though and theres no way GB can make the playoffs realistically.
Car and Sea are loaded. Dallas is gonna be really good. Then Wash, Tampa, and NYG, Chi are all good teams. New Orleans, Atl, and Arizona are potentially dangerous.
I'd consider Philly and the Vikes "bad" teams but they could still go like 7-9... 8/16/2006 2:49:43 PM |
Ernie All American 45943 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "it was not at all the same thing" |
wtf explain yourself8/16/2006 2:54:01 PM |
wlb420 All American 9053 Posts user info edit post |
Brady was telling the media about his conversations directly with branch
Favre went through the media to bash walker.
big diff.
[Edited on August 16, 2006 at 2:59 PM. Reason : not to mention that initially Brady was strongly on branch's side] 8/16/2006 2:57:28 PM |
Stein All American 19842 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "if it was blown out of proportion, he wouldn't have felt the need to smooth things over." |
He didn't. He felt the need to explain the comment since people like you were blowing it out of proportion. He didn't have to "smooth things over".
Quote : | "taking the focus off what it should be on....playing football" |
They don't generally play football in the offseason. You're not making much sense.
Quote : | "they don't even really know what they have in Rodgers....and he couldn't have done much worse than favre did" |
You should watch Packers games from time to time. It would help your argument.
Quote : | "Walker reports and tears his ACL and boom, his big contract day is gone." |
He's probably making more now than he ever would have hoped to get from the Packers.
Quote : | "And Vick is clearly better than Favre at this point in their careers, no one would argue that." |
This I would disagree with, though a large part of that is the fact that Vick plays in an offense that isn't exactly tailored to him. He's probably be clearly better in my mind if Atlanta actually realized what they had rather than just sticking him in a WCO with a cannon of an arm.
[Edited on August 16, 2006 at 3:00 PM. Reason : .]8/16/2006 3:00:06 PM |
wlb420 All American 9053 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "They don't generally play football in the offseason. You're not making much sense.
" |
they were in camp. how would he have held out if there wasn't anything to hold out from?
Quote : | "You should watch Packers games from time to time. It would help your argument." |
has rodgers played meaningful time in the reg season, if at all? Preseason means nothing
I would watch packers games if they weren't so god awfully bad.
[Edited on August 16, 2006 at 3:03 PM. Reason : .]8/16/2006 3:03:27 PM |
wlb420 All American 9053 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "He didn't. He felt the need to explain the comment since people like you were blowing it out of proportion. He didn't have to "smooth things over". " |
even if he didn't mean it the way it was clearly stated....... he was one of the best qb's ever, do you really think the QB coach can teach Rodgers about the overall QB position that Favre could have?8/16/2006 3:06:59 PM |
Ernie All American 45943 Posts user info edit post |
look
with or without favre we're fucked
rodgers is gonna be shit, green is coming off an injury, we have no receivers, we have no offensive line, we have a marginally acceptable secondary and d-line
a.j. hawk will be awesome though
packers fans know this season is going to be horrible and would rather watch favre throw the ball all over the field for another year than watch rodgers struggle through growing pains 8/16/2006 3:07:25 PM |
Stein All American 19842 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "they were in camp. how would he have held out if there wasn't anything to hold out from? " |
The whole thing transpired before camp. He was threatening to hold out and didn't. You should really get your facts straight.
Quote : | "has rodgers played meaningful time in the reg season, if at all? " |
He's come in for a bit in a couple of games and looked terrible every time.
Quote : | "I would watch packers games if they weren't so god awfully bad." |
OMG ZING.
Quote : | "do you really think the QB coach can teach Rodgers about the overall QB position that Favre could have?" |
The QB coach needs something to do, since what's he going to tell one of "the best qb's ever" that he doesn't already know?8/16/2006 3:19:46 PM |
wlb420 All American 9053 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "The whole thing transpired before camp. He was threatening to hold out and didn't." |
that makes it even more ludicrous that favre attacked him.
Quote : | "The QB coach needs something to do, since what's he going to tell one of "the best qb's ever" that he doesn't already know?" |
favre should just be a player/coach, and nix the old qb coach.8/16/2006 3:29:19 PM |
wlb420 All American 9053 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "look
with or without favre we're fucked
rodgers is gonna be shit, green is coming off an injury, we have no receivers, we have no offensive line, we have a marginally acceptable secondary and d-line
a.j. hawk will be awesome though
packers fans know this season is going to be horrible and would rather watch favre throw the ball all over the field for another year than watch rodgers struggle through growing pains" |
I can agree w/ that.8/16/2006 3:30:14 PM |
TreeTwista10 minisoldr 148456 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "vick or favre, who'd you rather have right now?" |
definitely vick...he would be a good backup for deshaun foster8/16/2006 3:39:56 PM |
phishnlou All American 13446 Posts user info edit post |
i used to dislike, yet respect, favre
now i dislike him and also think that he might not be mentally competent enough to tie his shoes 8/16/2006 3:47:30 PM |
lucky2 Suspended 2298 Posts user info edit post |
so how those packers gonna do this year 8/31/2006 3:12:07 AM |
Flyin Ryan All American 8224 Posts user info edit post |
^ If they play like they did against the Bengals, 2-14. 8/31/2006 9:22:56 AM |
roddy All American 25834 Posts user info edit post |
then need to be 1-15 or 0-16, so they can for sure get the first pic(however, the Panthers were 1-15 and got the number 2 pick) is there a good QB class in next years draft? 8/31/2006 10:53:33 AM |
Maverick1024 All American 4866 Posts user info edit post |
the panthers got the #2 pick because Houston was entering the league. Kind of a blessing, as they weren't tempted to draft D. Carr and instead got Peppers
And Green Bay doesn't need a QB in next year's draft -- remember they have Aaron Rodgers waiting to take over. He was arguably the highest rated QB in the '05 draft, but fell way down to Green Bay for some reason. They really need some OL help and some interior DL help though. 8/31/2006 11:01:55 AM |
AndyMac All American 31922 Posts user info edit post |
what GB NEEDS is Adrian Peterson.
Forget Reggie Bush, this is the guy that will be the next great RB.
He will most likely come out next year. 8/31/2006 11:13:13 AM |