TreeTwista10 minisoldr 148390 Posts user info edit post |
ibtl
9/6/2006 6:43:58 PM |
chezcrakas Veteran 356 Posts user info edit post |
its funny, hes wearing asu's colors under that t-shirt 9/6/2006 6:56:50 PM |
statefan24 All American 9157 Posts user info edit post |
...
not so much 9/6/2006 8:30:00 PM |
Randy Suspended 1175 Posts user info edit post |
he's been fired by ASU already? 9/6/2006 8:32:28 PM |
wolfAApack All American 9980 Posts user info edit post |
you got HERB'D! 9/6/2006 8:38:33 PM |
ncstatetke All American 41128 Posts user info edit post |
^^ getting, since April, one of the Shipp brothers, James Harding (future McD's AA, top 25 recruit), Eric Boateng (former McD's AA, Duke scholarship player), Jamelle McMillan (followed Herb from State to ASU), Derek Glasser (top-30 PG, stolen from USC) and Taylor Rhode ('08 recruit, future "Mr. Arizona Basketball") doesn't get you fired 9/6/2006 8:45:53 PM |
Randy Suspended 1175 Posts user info edit post |
^its hilarious that you still follow him. tell me again how he was going to eventually take us back to the top? 9/6/2006 8:47:54 PM |
Sleik All American 11177 Posts user info edit post |
that picture still makes me laff
what exactly was he doing there? 9/6/2006 8:48:23 PM |
lucky2 Suspended 2298 Posts user info edit post |
if i were herb i wouldnt want to coach at this shitty ass school either 9/6/2006 8:54:47 PM |
phishnlou All American 13446 Posts user info edit post |
yeah arizona state is the harvard of the desert
[Edited on September 6, 2006 at 10:08 PM. Reason : NO] 9/6/2006 10:08:40 PM |
ncsuftw1 BEAP BEAP 15126 Posts user info edit post |
hahahahaha.
i laughed 9/6/2006 10:42:55 PM |
msb2ncsu All American 14033 Posts user info edit post |
I'd be dancing too if I was in the midst of landing one of the best recruiting classes in the country as well as a McDonald's All-American center. 9/7/2006 12:23:48 AM |
ncstatetke All American 41128 Posts user info edit post |
me too, brother 9/7/2006 1:00:26 AM |
TreeTwista10 minisoldr 148390 Posts user info edit post |
i'm sure herb will get way past the sweet 16
i mean he's shown he can do it already 9/7/2006 9:31:02 AM |
slackerb All American 5093 Posts user info edit post |
Where is this best recruiting class in the country you speak of?
That wouldn't even be the a top 2 recruiting class in the ACC... 9/7/2006 10:04:30 AM |
PimpinHonda All American 4331 Posts user info edit post |
haha, gg 9/7/2006 10:24:15 AM |
gunzz IS NÚMERO UNO 68205 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "Where is this best recruiting class in the country you speak of? " |
are you serious herb is doing things out at asu9/7/2006 10:37:27 AM |
msb2ncsu All American 14033 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "Where is this best recruiting class in the country you speak of?
That wouldn't even be the a top 2 recruiting class in the ACC..." |
First of all, I said "one of the best" not the best.
Second, it most definitely is shaping up to be one of the best. So far, no one in the ACC has a better recruiting class. A 4* and 5* guard combo is HUGE. If you want to be technical you add in All-American (#3 Center in the country out of high school) Eric Boateng who is elgible the same year as this class and Sendek is sittin' pretty no matter what else he gets.9/7/2006 10:55:29 AM |
nutsmackr All American 46641 Posts user info edit post |
that's okay, the talent will be squandered. 9/7/2006 11:02:22 AM |
TreeTwista10 minisoldr 148390 Posts user info edit post |
Boateng will really fulfill his potential when he becomes a wing player in Sendek's offense 9/7/2006 11:04:11 AM |
slackerb All American 5093 Posts user info edit post |
Herb's got a good class coming in, especially for ASU.
But to say it's going to best even one of the best in the country, nah.
Boateng, although highly touted in high school, looked uninspired 2-3 minutes/game.
Wake, Georgia Tech, Duke, Maryland already have 2 4+ star recruits signed, and their best potential recruits yet to sign. And that's just in the ACC.
I liked Herb, and GG on the recruiting class and the fish dance, but this isn't going to be one of the best recruiting classes in the nation. 9/7/2006 11:09:18 AM |
TreeTwista10 minisoldr 148390 Posts user info edit post |
9/7/2006 1:00:17 PM |
gunzz IS NÚMERO UNO 68205 Posts user info edit post |
the fish dance was awesome i remember being at that game and lmao 9/7/2006 1:13:12 PM |
ncstatetke All American 41128 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "Boateng will really fulfill his potential when he becomes a wing player in Sendek's offense" |
he's running a totally different offense than he did at State
more like the Kentucky/Miami (OH) offense. run and gun, baby.9/7/2006 3:45:11 PM |
TreeTwista10 minisoldr 148390 Posts user info edit post |
^why the hell didnt he run that at State? 9/7/2006 3:59:57 PM |
abonorio All American 9344 Posts user info edit post |
The CBS Sportsline writers didn't want him to. 9/7/2006 4:02:32 PM |
lucky2 Suspended 2298 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "this shitty ass school" |
i would just like to say that i dont think this school is complete shit...i come here for an education and i'm receiving one, and i've liked all my professors except mowatt for physics, so i cant complain...
unlike our sporting fans9/7/2006 4:05:30 PM |
ncstatetke All American 41128 Posts user info edit post |
^^^ because the fans wanted him to run a princeton-type offense 9/7/2006 4:10:25 PM |
TreeTwista10 minisoldr 148390 Posts user info edit post |
^hahahah 9/7/2006 4:10:55 PM |
ncstatetke All American 41128 Posts user info edit post |
^^^^^ wasn't it Larry Hunter who convinced Herb to switch to Princeton offense? 9/7/2006 4:12:56 PM |
TreeTwista10 minisoldr 148390 Posts user info edit post |
dunno 9/7/2006 4:13:21 PM |
ncstatetke All American 41128 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "N.C. State has run a variation of the "Princeton Offense." Associate head coach Larry Hunter studied and helped implement the offense, upon arriving in Raleigh, from Ohio University." |
http://espn.go.com/ncb/2003/0304/1517990.html9/7/2006 4:17:35 PM |
nutsmackr All American 46641 Posts user info edit post |
Why do you think Herb brought him in here? 9/7/2006 4:38:25 PM |
ssclark Black and Proud 14179 Posts user info edit post |
because herb thought 5 consecutive tourny appearences was proof that the offense was "working"
and thought the players he recruited fit the system. new place with different players = new system to fit those players I suppose 9/7/2006 4:41:33 PM |
nutsmackr All American 46641 Posts user info edit post |
yup, ced, gavin, courtney all fit that system
please. 9/7/2006 4:44:26 PM |
pilgrimshoes Suspended 63151 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "he frowns on rebounding" |
ahaha9/7/2006 4:45:52 PM |
Josh8315 Suspended 26780 Posts user info edit post |
ced fit in fine. herb was the only thing keeping him here. grant adapted and infact was a perfect fit. fells has yet to do shit. 9/7/2006 4:46:39 PM |
TreeTwista10 minisoldr 148390 Posts user info edit post |
fells has yet to get any significant playing time
in his limited time he's shown a good outside shot and the best athleticism of any of our players in recent years 9/7/2006 4:53:07 PM |
nutsmackr All American 46641 Posts user info edit post |
^^You prove everyday that you do not belong in sports talk.
Princeton offense is for less athletic teams to limit possessions and slow the game down.
Three highly athletic players with bennerman, another athletetic player and bethel should not have been artificially slowing down the game.
their natural style of play did not fit the system.. 9/7/2006 4:59:06 PM |
Josh8315 Suspended 26780 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "Princeton offense is for less athletic teams to limit possessions and slow the game down. " |
You dont even watch our games. WE DONT RUN THE PRINCETON OFFENSE.
Quote : | ""To say we run the 'Princeton offense' is like saying Maryland, Boston College, Tennessee all run the same offense because they run the 'Flex.' They all do, but completely different versions of it.
"We score in transition, score off the dribble, score in the low post. We run an offense with some Princeton concepts but it's uniquely N.C. State's offense."" |
[Edited on September 7, 2006 at 5:04 PM. Reason : nando]9/7/2006 5:01:47 PM |
nutsmackr All American 46641 Posts user info edit post |
your right, we don't run it anymore
Herb isn't here.
But if you think we didn't run the princeton o then you are confused That was the majority offense
we did better when we had athletic players in the game who scrapped the offense and ran an upbeat offense (see wake forest games)
OMG NC STATE DOESN'T RUN A WEST COAST OFFENSE BECAUSE IT HAS SLIGHT VARIATIONS WHEN COMPARED TO OTHER WEST COAS OFFENSES
[Edited on September 7, 2006 at 5:06 PM. Reason : .] 9/7/2006 5:05:15 PM |
Josh8315 Suspended 26780 Posts user info edit post |
so we ran the priceton offense but "had athletic players in the game who scrapped the offense and ran an upbeat offense (see wake forest games)"
trying to have your cake and eat it too huh? 9/7/2006 5:08:20 PM |
TreeTwista10 minisoldr 148390 Posts user info edit post |
we ran a motion offense which was a variant of the princeton offense 9/7/2006 5:09:34 PM |
nutsmackr All American 46641 Posts user info edit post |
^^no, because as soon as that started to happen, they were yanked (see wake forest games) 9/7/2006 5:11:54 PM |
Josh8315 Suspended 26780 Posts user info edit post |
yanked in RARE occasion. 9/7/2006 5:13:09 PM |
nutsmackr All American 46641 Posts user info edit post |
you call it rare?
Herb did it all the time
he chastized Scooter sherril for abandoning the offense and would yank him.
Why do you think Courtney didn't see much court time?
the claim was defense but that wasn't true
It was because he refused to not run the court. 9/7/2006 5:15:41 PM |
Josh8315 Suspended 26780 Posts user info edit post |
we saw grant run up and down the court during last years duke game. he was left in.
[Edited on September 7, 2006 at 5:18 PM. Reason : 234] 9/7/2006 5:17:46 PM |
nutsmackr All American 46641 Posts user info edit post |
and during that game our offense was centered around the low block
a rare instance. 9/7/2006 5:18:31 PM |
msb2ncsu All American 14033 Posts user info edit post |
People close to the program have said that the Princeton offense was already being phased out. You could see it in the players being brought in and in certain games. With players like Grant, Simmons, and Fells (plus the incomings like Chris Wright) we no longer needed to rely on pure scheme. 9/7/2006 5:29:55 PM |
NyM410 J-E-T-S 50085 Posts user info edit post |
herb sendek is at the suns game... please tell me someone else saw him? 11/1/2006 10:42:08 PM |