This might be the first time a running back has ever had a chance to post more rushing yards than his QB does passing yards (not counting wishbone type offenses)

We could be witnessing history!!!


Andre Brown is in the lead 125-36 as of right now.

9/8/2006 3:49:53 PM

i dont think that's a record that i'd want to see

9/8/2006 3:50:58 PM

yeah. AB > MS

9/8/2006 3:51:12 PM

wow, let's make another thread about marcus stone sucking

9/8/2006 3:52:33 PM

AB>>>>>>>>>>MS

9/8/2006 3:52:55 PM

lawlerz

9/8/2006 3:53:01 PM

this is helpful....

9/8/2006 3:54:47 PM

the funny thing is if stone has a good game this week, all the current haters will be fighting for space on the band wagon. I could care less about stats if we're winning, and as of now, Stone is what....6-1 as a starter.

9/8/2006 3:58:32 PM

against a strong ass schedule

9/8/2006 4:00:38 PM

as of right now Stone is 6-1 as a starter.


But as of the end of this season he will be 10-7 as a starter.


See how that works?

9/8/2006 4:01:43 PM

^^I'll take that as sarcasm.....

you can only play the games you're scheduled to play.

[Edited on September 8, 2006 at 4:02 PM. Reason : ^^]

9/8/2006 4:02:11 PM

^^then it will be acceptable to bitch.

9/8/2006 4:03:07 PM

stfu, we'll do what we want

[Edited on September 8, 2006 at 4:04 PM. Reason : its a free country, get with it or get out]

9/8/2006 4:03:38 PM

i know its hard not to bitch when you can never be satisfied.

Quote :

"damn, we won, but we didn't have enough passing yards"

go to texas tech.

9/8/2006 4:07:09 PM

6-1 as a starter...

that is the most worthless stat that has ever been invented, and yet people point to it as if it proves how good he is.

Stone has nothing to do with any of those wins.

[Edited on September 8, 2006 at 4:08 PM. Reason : ...]

9/8/2006 4:08:09 PM

we are 1-0

if anybody is bitching now you will never be satisfied

9/8/2006 4:08:25 PM

Quote :

"that is the most worthless stat that has ever been invented"

so wins don't matter anymore? Look at Dilfer from the Ravens superbowl team....he wasn't a very good qb, but all he was asked to do was manage the game.....and it got him a SB.

Its not like he had 25 pass attempts last game.

9/8/2006 4:11:21 PM

Quote :

"Stone has nothing to do with any of those wins."

while our defense and running game played big parts in the wins

THE QUARTERBACK IS A PRETTY IMPORTANT POSITION AS THE OFFENSIVE LEADER, GENIUS

also Jay Davis wouldve thrown interceptions and lost those games probably

9/8/2006 4:12:19 PM

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"that is the most worthless stat that has ever been invented, and yet people point to it as if it proves how good he is. "

To me it proves that he is capable of not making too many mistakes for the defense to make up for. This seems to make much less worthless than you make it out to be.

9/8/2006 4:12:28 PM

yeah the stat is pretty useless when trying to point out that stone is the man, as you seem to be. his six wins also coincided with Andre Brown starting to play and the defense stepping it up

9/8/2006 4:13:34 PM

how many passing yards did the Ravens team that WON THE SUPERBOWL have that season

oh yeah, HOW MANY SUPERBOWLS DID DAN MARINO WIN

9/8/2006 4:14:30 PM

Sure the wins matter.

But the wins will stop if we have a one dimensional offense and opposing teams start putting 8 men in the box every down because they know our QB has a lack of solid matter between his ears.

9/8/2006 4:14:44 PM

no one is saying he is a great qb (at least i'm not), but its all about wins.

9/8/2006 4:14:57 PM

if you really think we're going to continue to win games with 36 passing yards a game, you're delusional.

9/8/2006 4:15:42 PM

so you are telling us that trent dilfer is better than dan marino?

9/8/2006 4:15:46 PM

did you guys not watch any nc state football last year? he did actually throw a few touchdown passes

^absolutely not...but i am saying that you dont have to have 400 passing yards a game to win football games

9/8/2006 4:15:49 PM

I don't care about the yardage specifically, as long as there's enough passing to open up the run game.

Right now there's not.

9/8/2006 4:17:37 PM

hey UNC's quarterback threw for a lot of yards on Saturday

oh wait they are 0-1 and we are 1-0

^right now during the first game

9/8/2006 4:18:16 PM

so what ever happened to that jay davis guy?

9/8/2006 4:18:47 PM

Quote :

"so you are telling us that trent dilfer is better than dan marino?"

No, but maybe his TEAM was better than Marino's were. Last I thought, we were rooting for the NC State Wolfpack, not the Marcus Stone Wolfpack.

9/8/2006 4:22:05 PM

Stop hijacking my thread with all this "Stone doesn't suck THAT bad" talk

look... we all know he actually does suck THAT bad but this isnt the place to discuss it


This thread is just to draw attention to potential history in the making.

Think about all the great races over the years in sports

Maris vs. Mantle

Bird vs Magic

McGwire vs. Sosa

Brown vs. Stone

9/8/2006 4:24:01 PM

^^name on the front of the jersey, amen

^what are the odds of Brown AND Baker rushing for more than Stone passes for?

9/8/2006 4:24:05 PM

So, assuming a bowl game, Brown is on pace for over 1600 rushing yards. if he gets that, plus whatever Baker throws in, we won't be in that bad of a spot. b/c with that much rushing, we'll dominate TOP.

[Edited on September 8, 2006 at 4:28 PM. Reason : .]

9/8/2006 4:28:08 PM

I cant even figure out the odds of that....

I was never good with binomial distributions....



^dude, we are not gonna dominate TOP. We couldnt even move the ball against App State.

Andre Brown is going to put up a lot of yards because he breaks LONG runs... like turns 7 yard gains into 45 yard TD's because he's the son of Zeus. But we are not going to be moving the chains consistently because we won't run well up the middle and Stone is absolutely incapable of converting a third down by using the "forward pass".



[Edited on September 8, 2006 at 4:30 PM. Reason : a]

9/8/2006 4:28:37 PM

Quote :

"So, assuming a bowl game, Brown is on pace for over 1600 rushing yards. if he gets that, plus whatever Baker throws in, we won't be in that bad of a spot. b/c with that much rushing, we'll dominate TOP."

well at least now we know whose alias "Earl" was

[Edited on September 8, 2006 at 4:34 PM. Reason : fas]

9/8/2006 4:34:25 PM

Quote :

"^what are the odds of Brown AND Baker rushing for more than Stone passes for?"

Right now both have more rushing yards than Stone has passing yards.

Eugune is losing by 6

Every person who has rushed the ball (including Stone) has a higher YPA than Stone does.


[Edited on September 8, 2006 at 4:44 PM. Reason : .]

9/8/2006 4:34:29 PM

These arguments are like saying that miami and fsu aren't going to gain 100 yards rushing the whole year b/c there was only 3 rushing yards in their first game. its ludicrous.

9/8/2006 4:35:22 PM

Quote :

"Every person who has rushed the ball (including Stone) has a higher YPA than Stone does"

hahah funny but true

9/8/2006 4:36:24 PM

Quote :

"These arguments are like saying that miami and fsu aren't going to gain 100 yards rushing the whole year b/c there was only 3 rushing yards in their first game. its ludicrous."

not as ludicrous as people claiming we'll run all over people after getting so many rushing yards in our first game(against APP FREAKING STATE)

9/8/2006 4:40:56 PM

Quote :

"These arguments are like saying that miami and fsu aren't going to gain 100 yards rushing the whole year b/c there was only 3 rushing yards in their first game. its ludicrous."

Actually its the complete opposite.

See with Miami you can say well they didnt run the ball well but that was the best rushing D they'll probably face all year so we can expect them to improve.

See with NCState you can say well they didnt pass the ball well and that was the worst defense they'll probably face all year so we can expect them to suck.

9/8/2006 4:41:36 PM

That was sarcastic to prove a point.....b/c stone only threw for 36 yards the first game he is sure not to do any better.

[Edited on September 8, 2006 at 4:43 PM. Reason : rolly eyes to make sure you don't misunderstand]

9/8/2006 4:42:34 PM

^^and you could also say its the first game of the year, stone needs to get into a rhythm and he can only improve

9/8/2006 4:43:48 PM

Quote :

"See with NCState you can say well they didnt pass the ball well and that was the worst defense they'll probably face all year so we can expect them to suck."

you're forgetting that very few passing plays were even called.

9/8/2006 4:44:04 PM

On top of that, even -- Wikipedia says there are 119 Division IA football programs out there.

This is ESPN's list of Top Yardage Passers ( http://sports.espn.go.com/ncf/sortables?stat=pass&sort=passyds&season=2&year=2006&group=80 ) it has 117 names on it.

GUESS WHO IS MISSING!

9/8/2006 4:45:05 PM

Quote :

"That was sarcastic to prove a point.....b/c stone only threw for 36 yards the first game he is sure not to do any better."

I understood your post perfecly but apparently you missed the point of mine.

I realize its stupid for people to "say fsu wont gain 100 yards rushing the whole year" but thats equally as stupid as you state fans who claim that we will dominate the ground all year because we ran all over some 1AA school.

[Edited on September 8, 2006 at 4:48 PM. Reason : fdh]

9/8/2006 4:45:58 PM

oh well.......we might as well forfeit the rest of the games.

9/8/2006 4:46:03 PM

It's fun to have a good running back to watch, is it too much to ask for a good passing game to compliment?

9/8/2006 4:47:05 PM

^^so your logic only applies when it helps your cause?

[Edited on September 8, 2006 at 4:47 PM. Reason : fhds]

9/8/2006 4:47:21 PM

^^its nc state, lets take what we can get

9/8/2006 4:48:02 PM

Quote :

"but thats equally as stupid as you state fans who claim that we will dominate the ground all year because we ran all over some 1AA school. "

but nobody is claiming that.

Quote :

"so your logic only applies when it helps your cause?"

???

9/8/2006 4:50:37 PM