Ortiz
Jeter
Morneu
Dye
Santana


you pick!

I am saying Santana, even though it is rare for a starting pitcher to win it. They would be way back without him. Jeter is next on the list.

9/12/2006 5:18:03 PM

Big fucking Papa finally deserves it and I don't even like the Sox.

Dye or Morneau won't have a chance because one of them won't be in the postseason unless the Tigers keep fucking around.

9/12/2006 5:42:17 PM

How 'bout ARod?

he sure does get paid enough dough to get MVP if not buy the damn award from someone else...

Approx. 5.7 million every 37 games, damn...

9/12/2006 5:45:19 PM

MVP is Santana. No one has been more VALUABLE to his team than Santana. Without him, there's no way they are where they are especially with Liriano being out for the past month and a light hitting offense behind him.

9/12/2006 5:55:33 PM

Dye

9/12/2006 5:57:46 PM

^he would be my second pick (and probably the one to get the MVP since Santana will get the Cy Young and pitchers just dont generally get MVP)

9/12/2006 5:59:38 PM

Dye, but he won't get it. It's probably going to come down to Jeter/Ortiz because that's how it works.

9/12/2006 6:16:22 PM

dye

9/12/2006 6:17:19 PM

If there is a Yankee in the running, he shall win. That's the way the MVP works. Didn't you hear?

NL: Howard followed by Beltran (yes I know I'm overlooking Pujols but their numbers are similar and Beltran is a better defender and baserunner -- plus it's for THIS YEAR).

[Edited on September 12, 2006 at 6:18 PM. Reason : funny thing is Jeter isn't even the best SS in NYC this year.. ]

9/12/2006 6:17:51 PM

if the Bo Sox make/made the playoffs it would be Papi

9/12/2006 6:20:23 PM

Beltran doesn't deserve it IMO because both Howard and Pujols are way more important to their teams than Beltran is to the Mets. Even without Beltran, the Mets still run away with the East because the lineup is still stacked. Howard deserves it because he has carried the Phillies to a chance at the wild card.

[Edited on September 12, 2006 at 6:31 PM. Reason : Oh yeah and I think Dye deserves MVP in AL (if not him then Johan)]

9/12/2006 6:31:11 PM

I agree. Howard does deserve it. He will get it too. What an amazing year.

I don't agree about Pujols. They were a .500 while he was hurt. And they've been a .500 team since he got back. I just don't like holding a player back because his team is good. Beltran is having every bit as good a year as Pujols and he does it playing a gold glove CF and is a dynamic baserunner.

Plus Beltran leads the majors in runs accounted for.

Howard is freaking unreal though. He's looking at .315, 65 HRs, and 155 RBIs...

[Edited on September 12, 2006 at 6:33 PM. Reason : unreal]

9/12/2006 6:33:07 PM

9/12/2006 8:36:46 PM

Quote :

"funny thing is Jeter isn't even the best SS in NYC this year.. "

Sorry Bryan, thats a bunch of crap.

Jose Reyes: AVG .300 | HR 19 | RBI 75 | OBP .352 | SLG .500

Derek Jeter: AVG .346 | HR 13 | RBI 92 | OBP .423 | SLG .492

And I know there's more to it than numbers, but I do live in NYC so I'm aware of whats going on.

My pick would probably go to Santana (Jeter second )

9/12/2006 9:12:01 PM

^^^^^^ Arod was the first Yankee to win the MVP since 1986 when Don Mattingly won it. Yankees really don't get much if any favoritism in terms of awards. And regarding your last comment, what TKE said. Jeter is definitely having the better year of the two.

9/12/2006 9:48:11 PM

heard somebody talking about Justin Morneau for MVP since he is a big hitter on a (probable) playoff team

I love the Twins but I disagree

9/13/2006 12:11:53 AM

Morneau
no

9/13/2006 12:12:19 AM

Mor[no]

or

[NEAU]

9/13/2006 12:12:42 AM

Dye takes it in the closest vote in MLB history

9/13/2006 12:13:35 AM

although mvp's dont usually go 0fer in a crucial game

9/13/2006 1:18:03 AM

Jeter is having a better year than Reyes???

Defensively, maybe. Not offensively. Reyes is the table-setter for that team. He's their MVP. Without him on the basepaths, Beltran and Delgado and Wright aren't even mentioned as MVP candidates. On top of that, he looks like he may steal 100 bases real soon. He freakin ran an inside the park home run in like 12 or 13 seconds! That's 4 seconds per base. AND HE'LL ONLY GET BETTER.

9/13/2006 1:37:48 AM

^ He's a leadoff hitter with a .350 OBP. Jeter's OBP is about .420, now who's doing a better job getting on base and setting the table for his team? Reyes is a very fast guy and can definitely steal a lot of bases when he gets on, but as a leadoff hitter, he should definitely be getting on base more. And on the 100 SBs statement, we're talking about this year, and unless he steals 43 bases in the next 19 games, that's not gonna happen.

9/13/2006 7:46:23 AM

Jeter

9/13/2006 8:18:45 AM

Jeter is right on Mauer's tail as far as AVG

9/13/2006 9:25:42 AM

i bet a dollar dye is on roids

9/13/2006 9:37:13 AM

Quote :

"Reyes is a very fast guy and can definitely steal a lot of bases when he gets on, but as a leadoff hitter, he should definitely be getting on base more."

This is true when looking at nearly every comparison between two players in baseball. I agree. But in this case I really do think you have to look further. Reyes doesn't get on base at a higher clip yet he has scored 12 more runs. Reyes has 9 more extra base hits. Jeter is a better singles hitter and does a decent job of putting himself in position to score with his 29 steals. Then you look at Reyes who has 28 more steals. He puts himself into position to score far more often then Jeter does.

What is more valuable to a team? Getting on base more? Or putting yourself into position to score and scoring more often? There was a nice stat that I'm having a hard time finding right now that was a sort of adjusted OPS. It used a formula which included stolen bases because it really is unfair for the table setters at a position like SS to be compared against players like A-Rod and Tejada for arbitration purposes. Reyes and Jeter were identical.

Quote :

"Defensively, maybe. Not offensively."

Reyes has 14 errors and a .975 fielding %.
Jeter has 13 errors and a .976 fielding %.
Pretty equal and I don't think there is a person alive that thinks Jeter has better range or a stronger arm then Reyes.

Actually I was just trying to get Yankees fans uptight when I said he doesn't deserve MVP. I think he is a fine candidate for him to get it, I really do. I just don't think he is having that much better a season then Jose Reyes, if he is at all.

Carl Crawford gets is:

Quote :

""(Mets shortstop) Jose Reyes is like everything to people right now, and I don't see anything different that he's doing and I'm doing. But nobody knows what I'm doing and he's like a big megastar, the best player ever, the most exciting player and all that stuff. And I'm like, 'Okay, what's the difference?' ""

[Edited on September 13, 2006 at 11:19 AM. Reason : x]

9/13/2006 11:17:10 AM

^ I'll take Reyes over Jeter too. Jeter is clutch, but Reyes just changes the game with his speed. Reyes seems to score two runs every night.

Back on the AL MVP talk, I don't know why people on here aren't giving more love to Morneau. His stats are sick and he's had to do that hitting in the #5 hole behind Michael Cuddyer (an okay hitter, but it's not Thome or Konerko).

If I had a vote right now, I'd still take Dye though because I think he has been so consistent and has been the key player on the White Sox this year. Morneau is not necessarily anymore important to the Twins run than Santana, Liriano (before he went down) or Mauer.




[Edited on September 13, 2006 at 12:17 PM. Reason : j]

9/13/2006 12:17:17 PM

dont forget that the NL is just AAAA

9/13/2006 12:21:49 PM

rwoody that's completely wrong.

it's more like AAAAA.

9/13/2006 12:28:25 PM

eh, too far off topic.

Dye

then Jeter

[Edited on September 13, 2006 at 12:31 PM. Reason : x]

9/13/2006 12:31:04 PM

haha my bad

9/13/2006 12:33:33 PM

I'd have to think the top 3 candidates are Dye, Morneau, and Jeter, and I think that who wins will probably be decided in large part by what they do here at the end of the season. All 3 are good candidates, and if one player is real hot for the rest of the season, they will most likely get most of the buzz. Morneau and Dye will both get plenty of publicity because they're in the middle of the race with the Tigers for either the AL Central division title or the wild card. Since the Red Sox have dropped out of the race, the Yankees aren't nearly as interesting a team now and so they won't have as much press as the Twins and White Sox. If Jeter's hitting streak continues for a while, or he stays close to Mauer and eventually overtakes him for the batting title lead, that can bring him plenty of press. I think that because all 3 candidates are ver good candidates, whatever is sticking in the minds of the voters when the season ends will play a big part in deciding who wins the MVP. As a Yankee fan, I want Jeter to win, but I can understand if Dye or Morneau wins, as both are having very good seasons. The race for the MVP should be interesting

9/13/2006 4:17:31 PM

Dye, Jeter, Morneau in that order

9/13/2006 4:26:29 PM

^you are a moron

9/13/2006 4:27:05 PM

I actually have knowledge of the subject

you do a piss poor job at something and declare yourself an expert

9/13/2006 4:30:18 PM