Lutz All American 1102 Posts user info edit post |
So heres the math! Cubic feet of oil in one barrel=5.61 120 million barrels a day (close to current use However is much higher than was in past but will still be used in my calculation)
assume 150 years at 120 million barrels a day have been used of oil. THIS IS much much higher than the actual amount however for simplicity i will keep it at this.
150*365=#of days=54750 days 54750*120,000,000=6.57e12 barrels 6.57e12*5.61=3.68577e13 cubic feet of oil used in human history 3.68577/5280^3 (cubic miles of oil used in human history)=250 cubic miles Raleigh is 110 square miles. so 2 miles deep in raleigh about
opinions
Shortage??? i think not
[Edited on September 21, 2006 at 10:26 PM. Reason : asdf] 9/21/2006 10:09:45 PM |
supercracker All American 7023 Posts user info edit post |
the question is how easy/ecoomical is it to extract that oil.
we've tapped out most of the easy oil i think. 9/21/2006 10:53:42 PM |
Mindstorm All American 15858 Posts user info edit post |
Yeah, this sort of math doesn't really give or take anything at all. 9/21/2006 11:03:05 PM |
LoneSnark All American 12317 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "the question is how easy/ecoomical is it to extract that oil." |
Saudi Arabia is still reporting well-head prices around $4 a barrel. The most expensive oil to extract in the world (Kansas) costs about $15 a barrel. That still leaves Albertan oil-sands, which costs about $25 a barrel.
Now, of course, no company is going to produce oil from oil-sands at a market price of $25, you still need to ship it, pay insurance, and pocket a profit for time and effort.
If Exxon and BP could freely drill in Saudi Arabia, gasoline would cost about $0.69 If more oil could be found here in America, gasoline would cost about $0.99 If all of it must come from tar-sands, then gasoline will cost about $1.49 If all of it must come from corn, then gasoline will cost about $1.79 If all of it must come from depolymerization of organic waste, then gasoline will cost about $1.89 If all of it must come from reformulated coal, then gasoline will cost about $1.99 If all of it must come from reformulated timber (trees), then gasoline will cost about $2.69 (all prices per gallon with about 50 cents in constant tax, as well as many other assumptions/simplifications/etc)
[Edited on September 22, 2006 at 12:55 AM. Reason : left out a few of my favorites]9/22/2006 12:40:14 AM |
Mr. Joshua Swimfanfan 43948 Posts user info edit post |
once again, i feel the need to advocate a return to whale oil
are all of you too blind to see it? 9/22/2006 12:41:49 AM |
drunknloaded Suspended 147487 Posts user info edit post |
^^links to back any of that up? 9/22/2006 3:26:53 AM |
LoneSnark All American 12317 Posts user info edit post |
I wouldn't use any of it in an academic paper if that's what you're asking, the numbers came from wikipedia or a blog titled "Peal Oil Debunked" or were based upon my own calculations.
If it had good foundations I would have said what they were. So take them with a huge grain of salt and feel free to dispute them.
[Edited on September 22, 2006 at 8:48 AM. Reason : .,.] 9/22/2006 8:45:34 AM |
Mr. Joshua Swimfanfan 43948 Posts user info edit post |
if you took all of the diamonds ever mined by mankind, they would fit in a cubic mile.
thus diamonds aren't a precious stone. 9/22/2006 11:28:03 AM |
Gamecat All American 17913 Posts user info edit post |
Until the wizards at DeBeers use the magic of Capitalism to make them so. 9/22/2006 2:44:41 PM |
Arab13 Art Vandelay 45180 Posts user info edit post |
http://www.wtrg.com/prices.htm
history and analysis of crude oil prices
what causes spikes and what causes drops
OPEC = higher price 9/25/2006 12:35:42 PM |
kwsmith2 All American 2696 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "So heres the math! Cubic feet of oil in one barrel=5.61 120 million barrels a day (close to current use However is much higher than was in past but will still be used in my calculation)
assume 150 years at 120 million barrels a day have been used of oil. THIS IS much much higher than the actual amount however for simplicity i will keep it at this.
150*365=#of days=54750 days 54750*120,000,000=6.57e12 barrels 6.57e12*5.61=3.68577e13 cubic feet of oil used in human history 3.68577/5280^3 (cubic miles of oil used in human history)=250 cubic miles Raleigh is 110 square miles. so 2 miles deep in raleigh about
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Shortage??? i think not " |
How does any of this have to do with whether or not there is a shortage?
There is no estimation of the total amount of oil that is available.
As for lonesnarks estimations. I am skeptical. If there was a marginal barrel of oil (outside of OPEC) that could delivered for less than $60 I would suspect that someone would be delviering it.9/25/2006 6:47:57 PM |
Lutz All American 1102 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "How does any of this have to do with whether or not there is a shortage?" |
We havent in the history of mankind used as much oil as oil companies would like for you to believe.9/25/2006 10:01:30 PM |
mootduff All American 1462 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "If there was a marginal barrel of oil (outside of OPEC) that could delivered for less than $60 I would suspect that someone would be delviering it." |
Think about what you just said...
[Edited on September 25, 2006 at 10:40 PM. Reason : there's a reason they're a CARTEL, dick.]9/25/2006 10:39:51 PM |
LoneSnark All American 12317 Posts user info edit post |
It doesn't end there.
kwsmith2, I am offering to sell you an oil well in Kansas that is rediculously expensive to drill and pump, or $15 a barrel. Regretfully, there is a 50% chance the well is dry. Regretfully, it will not produce a drop of oil for 5 years. Oh, and using history as a guide, in 5 years times the price of oil will probably be back down to $30.
So, to produce a million barrels in 5 years you must spend $15 million dollars today. You can get 10% by investing in the stock market, so this $15 million in 5 years is an opportunity cost of $24 million at that time (if, instead, you bought stock). Ok, this million sells for $30 million, a profit of $6 million. Of course, this ignores the discount that the oil well might be friggin' dry and you lose everything. 9/25/2006 11:02:20 PM |