aside from being dirty as fuck

does anybody notice anything of interest?

are the white slots at the bottom of photo 1 pci slots?

could i use them to plug in a second video card to which i would hook the loose wire resting atop the video card in photo 4?

can you guys see what i mean by "RAM installed at an angle?"

i mentioned that in another thread when i was looking for the other two sticks out of the four that i have and people said i was crazy

anything i should know?

[Edited on September 22, 2006 at 11:17 PM. Reason : .]

9/22/2006 11:17:26 PM

so are you saying you want to plug that loose power cable into a pci video card?

9/22/2006 11:25:50 PM

im just asking if thats the procedure should a second video card even be possible

thats how the original is hooked up

is that the idea behind the second power cord?

9/22/2006 11:54:23 PM

You want to put a video card in the white slots?

Are you serious??? H....... why would someone hook 4 video cards up to a computer?

9/23/2006 1:30:43 AM

theres no point hooking up a slow ass pci card, and you would never be able to get it to work

if you want dual monitors replace your current video card with one that supports it

9/23/2006 7:37:15 AM

I'm just wondering, how many more days can we expect a daily "I don't know what the fuck I am doing around cpu's, hard drives, and software" thread from you.

9/23/2006 7:54:23 AM

you call that dirty?

9/23/2006 9:35:29 AM

of course there's a point in hooking up another video card

three monitors

or four

9/23/2006 12:39:53 PM

Quote :

"I'm just wondering, how many more days can we expect a daily "I don't know what the fuck I am doing around cpu's, hard drives, and software" thread from you. "

lol, i was thinking of making a similar post

mine was going to be directed to firmbuttgirl it was gonna say "Imagine you are explaining this to someone thats never used a computer before...your responses may be a bit more helpful"

9/23/2006 2:02:14 PM

Quote :

"You want to put a video card in the white slots? Are you serious??? H....... why would someone hook 4 video cards up to a computer?"

what?

it doesnt say that anywhere

i guess i was wondering if you could use two video cards to split the load and make things more efficient

i guess like having two sticks of ram instead of one

i dont know how that works so im asking

Quote :

"I'm just wondering, how many more days can we expect a daily "I don't know what the fuck I am doing around cpu's, hard drives, and software" thread from you."

oh is it this routine again?

1) troll a complains about person b using a public message board for the purpose it was originally conceived

2) person b defends themselves and gets mad and insults troll a

3) an argument ensues

blah blah blah

you know what the threads going to be about before you click (i guess this thread is somewhat of an exception)

so either click it and help if you know what youre talking about

or click something else

holla

Quote :

"theres no point hooking up a slow ass pci card, and you would never be able to get it to work if you want dual monitors replace your current video card with one that supports it"

isnt the video card in the picture hooked into a pci slot?

if its good enough to run bf2 on medium smoothly...is that still "slow ass?"

Quote :

"lol, i was thinking of making a similar post"

what would be the point

i have yet to see you post anything of much worth to anyone in any section

much less in one of my tech talk threads

im simply asking for help

so i fail to see how a thread like this is worth any less than say, a thread about dirty south rap





also nobody mentioned the ram stick configuration



and mad props to Bakunin for getting my hard drive issue resolved

he is a gentleman and a scholar




so many words

9/23/2006 8:38:40 PM

^how'd he fix the hdd btw?

9/23/2006 8:43:37 PM

oh shit man props to Prospero too for all the effort he put into troubleshooting this shit with me

i appreciate it a lot man

i went into control panel--> administrative tools--> computer management--> storage--> disk management and saw that it was recognized as 400GB, with a 127GB partition being used and the rest being a partition that wasnt being used

so i deleted the empty, unused partition and used partition magic to extend the 127GB partition to use the entire space

i was mad at how simple it seemed

and i bet what happened was either you mentioned that and i didnt do it or didnt understand or whatever, or i fucked up an answer to one of your questions that caused you to skip that step

but either way i appreciate that shit man

9/23/2006 8:58:57 PM

Quote :

" i guess i was wondering if you could use two video cards to split the load and make things more efficient i guess like having two sticks of ram instead of one"

nice

9/23/2006 10:10:23 PM

Quote :

"i guess i was wondering if you could use two video cards to split the load and make things more efficient i guess like having two sticks of ram instead of one"

Not really, no. If you have two identical SLI cards and a motherboard that supports SLI, then yes. Otherwise, you can use additional video cards to have extra monitors.

9/23/2006 10:48:24 PM

so basically i need to just sell this thing and upgrade then

suggestions?

9/24/2006 3:17:32 AM

what's your budget? if you have $texas then throw this one into a trash compactor and build one from scratch. and what are you trying to do with the computer? gaming, work, bull shit, etc

9/24/2006 3:52:20 PM

haha, yeah, i noticed the discrepency between the 137gb limit and your posting of 127gb but i chaulked it up as a typo... good to find out it was a simple fix.

9/24/2006 4:18:12 PM

"sell this thing" meant the video card, not the computer

9/25/2006 12:36:30 PM

if you really want a true high performance machine then you can't just upgrade, have to build from scratch

9/25/2006 1:21:41 PM

thats not true

i mean im not trying to move the world here

9/26/2006 12:44:55 AM

no input on the ram configuration?

from anyone?

9/27/2006 12:35:00 PM

If your talking about the ram installed on an angle, thats typical for small Dell cases. Its done for space purposes so the cables will fit. Is that what you were asking or did i totally miss the point of the question?

by the way, the card in your case looks like an older agp card. If so i would just upgrade the graphics card. probably your cheapest bet.

9/28/2006 9:47:53 AM

word up

thats all i was asking

i had just mentioned in another thread about it seeming to be installed at an angle and NOBODY knew what i was talking about

my boy said he had only seen that shit in servers or whatever

i mean this case is a normal-sized dell case...but whatever

whats a good graphics card i could run

basically i want to run bf2 and any similar game on all high settings without any fuckups

what do i need folks?

9/29/2006 1:42:09 AM

OH MAN BUY THE MOSTEST EXPENSIVE CARD FOR TEH GAME POWEERS!1

No, really all you need for high settings is about 1 gig of good ram, and a geforce 7900.

Of course, I would wait till they released the geforce 8 series myself, but that would still be hyper expensive when released, and bf2142 would be out by then, which means you'd be getting super duper pwnt without the most awesome card. So, just got for the geforce in laymans terms, it runs about 310.xx

[Edited on September 29, 2006 at 1:59 AM. Reason : And, make sure you have a mother board that can handle pci-e]

9/29/2006 1:58:11 AM

You're just talking crazy now.

9/29/2006 2:18:05 AM

try reading this http://www.tomshardware.com/2006/09/26/the_best_gaming_video_cards_for_the_money/

by the way what is the recommended specs for bf2 and what are your dell specs, I would like to compair them.

9/29/2006 7:57:09 AM

Quote :

"if you really want a true high performance machine then you can't just upgrade, have to build from scratch "

Really? So companies like voodoopc and alienware don't build powerful machines for lazy people with too much money?

9/29/2006 8:23:56 AM

Quote :

"i guess i was wondering if you could use two video cards to split the load and make things more efficient"

nope, not with that setup as it is

Quote :

" Really? So companies like voodoopc and alienware don't build powerful machines for lazy people with too much money?"

depending on what parts that are used you might have issues upgrading much... but I don't think that's usually the case...

[Edited on September 29, 2006 at 10:10 AM. Reason : d]

9/29/2006 10:09:15 AM

Instead of "build from scractch" did you mean "start from stratch?" I took build from scratch to mean actually building from individually chosen parts as opposed to ordering a retail box.

9/29/2006 11:39:00 AM

*meh*

i built mine b/c it was cheaper $$/performance wise...

but if you don't want to replace shit yourself get a retail box

9/29/2006 12:04:43 PM

http://slickdeals.net/#p8151

what do you think

[Edited on September 29, 2006 at 5:40 PM. Reason : .]

9/29/2006 5:40:12 PM

go for it man

get me one too while you're at it

9/29/2006 7:06:27 PM

yeah, by the way, you have an AGP slot, so like, trash the whole system, k

9/29/2006 10:30:57 PM

I am so glad this thread didn't deal with dissecting a turd.

9/29/2006 10:32:41 PM

^^ how come?

10/1/2006 10:51:52 PM

because: you need to replace the video card, say you'll get a 7900, which your motherboard does not support. therefore you need to get another motherboard. which means you have to get new ram if you want to see any performance gain. and then might as well get a processor cuz your current would be slowing the whole system down. so since you're gettin all those components might as well buy a case that's capable of circulating air good enough to cool down your system. so just like i said: build from scratch.

10/2/2006 7:05:53 PM

a 3 GHZ P4 would slow it down?

10/3/2006 12:40:21 AM

I would blow the dust off those heat sinks, to keep it from running hot and potentially catching fire.

10/3/2006 11:15:18 AM

lol catching fire? it would kill the computer before anything else would 'catch fire'...

though blowing out the dust is a good idea

10/3/2006 11:33:59 AM

although they are right that the pcie vid cards are great; and that in order to get one you would need a new mobo. I suggest that you try and find a radeon 9600xt or 9800 pro or xt off of a site like http://www.pricewatch.com That way you keep the mobo and have a cheap upgrade. I also suggest increasing your ram to make up for the slower video card. My 9600 xt operates fine on bf2 but i also have it overclocked with 7 case fans to cool it off. I suggest since you have a p4 3gHz to have 1.5 GB pc3200 ram and the 9600 xt for your cheapest value. If you get ram make sure you get low density ram because most motherboards dont support high density.

10/3/2006 12:39:05 PM

btw if you do get rid of that vid card, let me know.. i need a simple vid card for a server that needs no graphical sophistication for cheap.

10/3/2006 12:41:00 PM

this

http://www.pricewatch.com/video_cards/5522-1.htm

or this?

http://www.pricewatch.com/video_cards/5782-1.htm

or this?

http://www.pricewatch.com/video_cards/11032-1.htm

10/3/2006 8:04:13 PM

all are acceptable, however i would go with the pro (the first 1, because of price vs proformance), also if you do get one of these cards I can send you some drivers for overclocking if you want them. They are the Omega drivers for the radeon 9000 series

10/3/2006 11:01:30 PM

It will catch fire if it runs hot enough. Thats what those dad-gom heat sinks are for, to keep the computer at a stable temperture. The accumulated dust prevents the heat sinks from working properly. In return the cooling fan runs overtime making boards overheat and causing damage!

10/4/2006 12:38:09 AM

Quote :

"It will catch fire if it runs hot enough [...] the cooling fan runs overtime making boards overheat and causing damage!"

^you have no clue what you're talking about. while it's true that dust can prevent a heat sink from bleeding heat properly, and it's true that you can cause damage to components by overheating (although most will shut-off before overheating) ... you have everything else completely wrong.

i'll just say it outright, the computer is NOT going to catch fire, and cooling fans will NOT run "overtime" ... i really hope your major isn't anything computer related, in fact, don't ever do tech support again.

[Edited on October 4, 2006 at 12:54 AM. Reason : overtime, lol, right.]

10/4/2006 12:52:58 AM

Quote :

"Overheating In 2003, Dell released several lines of Inspiron notebooks which were having problems with cooling properly, causing them to overheat and even burn up the video card, [...] Another reason on why these machines might overheat is due to the fact that they contained the fan on the bottom of the unit, unlike others where they are located on the sides and rear, where air could not flow through the unit when sat on a table or a desk. [...] http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dell_Inspiron#Overheating "

The fans work in correlation with heat sinks on nearly all pcs' am I correct? I think this example works pretty sweet! What ya think? There are many testimonials about fans being over ran in computers due to dust. I probably know more than you'd ever dream about computers, don't make me call you out. Like I told the other guy, you don't wish to venture there with me! Oh no pa'l. Not today.

[Edited on October 4, 2006 at 1:08 AM. Reason : .]

10/4/2006 1:04:31 AM

yes, fans work to move air over the heatsink and take away the heat from the highly heat-conductive metal fins.

HOWEVER, that usage of "burn up" is not a literal burning, as in flames. that's just a commonly used term for when a component stops working (or in extreme cases, has some melting damage) due to overheating. you'd know this if you knew half of what you think you know.

the only person you're "calling out" is yourself ... you sound more stupid with every post you make.

10/4/2006 1:15:39 AM

That example is an improperly designed laptop using an old style pentium 4 (non mobile) processor. Pointing out a defective computer that posed a fire risk due to design flaws in no way supports your argument that dust is a fire hazard worthy of mention.

That would be like telling anyone with a car that explosion is a serious risk from driving too fast and using the pinto exploding from rear-end impact as an example.

A computer actually catching fire is nearly always a result of defect, design flaw, or at least something a hell of a lot more impressive than dust build up.

[Edited on October 4, 2006 at 1:22 AM. Reason : ]

10/4/2006 1:21:25 AM

Quote :

" • One system that was melted, mangled and charred black on the bottom corner of a notebook; • More than one notebook with black charring around the Ethernet port; • Several units that had melted and warped in the area immediately surrounding the cooling fan; • Several units that had melted or burned away in the area covering and surrounding the http://www.crn.com/sections/breakingnews/dailyarchives.jhtml?articleId=190600070 "

I want some intelligent homo sapien to explain to me how things charr or burn without the smallest amount of fire! This is so easy. True indeed the fans were a design flaw, but the dust on the heat sinks also cause a problem within the fans themselves. The fans were running too dad-gom hot.

My work here is done. I hope you've learned something while placing your stubborness to the side for once. Next time you try and go toe-to-toe with me, I won't be so light on you!!

[Edited on October 4, 2006 at 1:32 AM. Reason : .]

10/4/2006 1:28:07 AM

In this case, defective batteries caused excessive heating. This has nothing to do with fans, heatsinks, or dust. As the recall aknowledges, the source of the problem was defective batteries. The location of the heat damage is listed and some fans were damaged. That only means they took the brunt of the damage. It doesn't mean they were the source of the problem. Where is your dust clogged heat-sink causing fire?

Also, you can very easily have charring and melting without fire. You do know what fire is right?

As I said earlier, without serious defect or design flaw, fire isn't going to happen. You're still pointing at pintos.

[Edited on October 4, 2006 at 1:36 AM. Reason : ]

10/4/2006 1:31:20 AM