Was anyone in class today and could let me know what he said about curving the tests. Preciate it.

9/28/2006 8:20:14 PM

the curve will follow normal distribution.

9/28/2006 10:45:44 PM

has he said the date of the test and if it's going to be open book/notes?

11/14/2006 12:06:48 PM

nope, im sure someone will ask today

11/14/2006 2:47:19 PM

The test is next Tuesday, it's not a take home, and it's open book/notes. The final's also open book/notes.

11/14/2006 4:51:45 PM

^awesome thanks....is the final cumulative?

11/14/2006 11:07:41 PM

Both test 3 and the final are supposed to be cumulative.

11/14/2006 11:27:28 PM

so was the midterm... he has told us this many times!!

11/15/2006 12:11:22 AM

Yeah, but this is one class I can understand people skipping or daydreaming through. So it's not hard to understand people not catching things.

11/15/2006 12:26:47 AM

yo i'm taking this in the summer...what would yall rank it in difficulty on a 1-10 scale

11/16/2006 1:27:49 AM

avoid banks if possible

11/16/2006 1:51:04 AM

^agreed. avoid.

11/16/2006 8:13:15 PM

this test is gonna suck

11/21/2006 12:45:52 AM

yo man now i'm freaking out...the only one they let minors take were all section 1

its that banks guy

maybe i can get an online spot

11/21/2006 12:53:41 AM

id do that

11/21/2006 1:39:05 AM

on a scale of 1-10 how hard is banks?

11/21/2006 1:49:11 AM

12.

He used to teach grad classes at Duke, and I think he forgets that he's teaching the principles of marketing class and not masters and doctoral candidates. He doesn't teach the basics and his tests are tough, even though they're open book. Don't get me wrong, he's brilliant and interesting - just very tough.

11/21/2006 8:27:15 AM

^exactly, and his lectures put you too sleep

11/21/2006 12:48:03 PM

I talked to him after the 3d test asking what the hell is "the negative correlation of the relevant variations of two segments..." and I actually told him that even though I studied and I thought I was prepared, I guessed a half of the questions - his tests are not for undergraduates but rather for grads where he assumed that they already have some knowledge of the subject. His response was that he knows it and he purposely made it this way, so if all sections will do better than 70, he will be very surprised.
no extra credit
no HW where you can pick your grade up
no projects where you can control what is going on
no presentations
no fkin nothing.... just 3 tests for PHD level

If that is what you want - good luck... you are my hero.....

11/21/2006 5:16:07 PM

he said he's gonna curve though and pretty much everyone will make at least a C

11/21/2006 10:03:27 PM

haha man i hope i get the online section...at least i only need a c or above for my business minor

11/21/2006 11:14:37 PM

sometimes i think he is too smart for his own good. he always responds with "thats a good question, let me get back to you on that."

11/23/2006 11:36:39 AM

after today, im not sure i want to even attempt the final

11/28/2006 7:11:16 PM

god man this guy sounds like he REALLY sucks

11/28/2006 7:12:01 PM

you have no idea... i would avoid his class if you can.... i mean, for his last test, he said "you will find the test both interesting and challenging" and then he told us today, "You haven't seen hard yet, wait until the final" I have been to every class, read every lecture, and am lucky to pull a decent C. Dont get me wrong, his insights are great, and I will never doubt his intelligence... but he seems to teach at a MBA level rather than at a Introductory/Survey course level. I am in a finance concentration--not a person with a desire to understand the ins and outs of marketing.

11/28/2006 7:32:56 PM

i wonder if i email him and am like...yo man...from what i read on tww, you are fucking tough...can you please teach it easy this semester

sometimes i wonder what professors would say to shit like that...email is a lot different than wolfweb though

but seriously...i kinda wouldnt mind sending an email like "hey professor banks, a lot of my friends told me you were pretty hard in the past...is there anyway you could possibly make it a little easier or possibly explain things better?"

or i wonder if i like sent them an exact link and was like can u plz make it easier

idk

11/28/2006 7:40:41 PM

oh fuck, im in this guys section next semester

11/28/2006 7:58:56 PM

haha. glad i signed up for the other guy.

at the time it was a toss-up decision... but it sounds like i made a good one

[Edited on November 28, 2006 at 8:41 PM. Reason : i]

11/28/2006 8:41:12 PM

Yeah. This last test had 15 questions. The mean was 7.9.

Quote :

""You haven't seen hard yet, wait until the final" "

Yeah, I was just like, WTF?

Quote :

"but he seems to teach at a MBA level rather than at a Introductory/Survey course level. I am in a finance concentration--not a person with a desire to understand the ins and outs of marketing."

Agreed.

11/28/2006 10:36:07 PM

All I hear is how much ego this guy has and that with open-note/open-book tests, people are still averaging 50s on tests. That is flat out stupid for him to make it like that. It must be his own little game. I've also heard a couple people have called him out in class for him saying stuff that is wrong and he has scolded them publicly about it in the class. Glad I took Reuschle two years ago for that class!

11/29/2006 7:44:29 PM

he sounds like the kinda teacher that doesnt give out study guides and shit

11/29/2006 7:48:29 PM

i actually really like the class. he is teaching at a much higher level than an introductory class should be, but at least we're learning applicable skills, even if its just critical thinking about business cases. he has also said that on the whole, no one is getting lower than a C... unless you really suck- ie- missed a test, never ever come to class... oh and if you're taking this with him next semester, for the love of god DO NOT BUY THE BOOK. we never use it- seriously everything you need to know is in the notes and you can get from lecture...

11/29/2006 9:31:40 PM

^^^ and ^^ You're exactly right.

^ You must be out of your mind. I haven't learned anything, and I'm not the only one. I could learn a lot more if it were taught at an introductory level (or something close to it) and less like a graduate level.

11/29/2006 11:30:47 PM

I agree with bethhart. Its one of the hardest classes I've ever taken, but thats also what makes it so interesting. Granted, tests may be difficult, but the stuff we go over -critical thinking skills, ability to break down complex scenarios into something manageable, etc, are all things that aren't stressed enough in other classes.
I mean, when you get a job, your boss isn't going to hand you everything you need in order to solve a problem on a nicely formatted excel chart...you are going to have to analyze, make educated guesses, and use any other means possible to solve the problem. This class gives you some of the tools in order to do that when we attempt to solve case studies and then later formally analyze and discuss them in class.
Overall, its difficult, but I think the majority of people will be able to appreciate the class and Dr.Banks later down the road!

11/29/2006 11:30:49 PM

I bet if you ever decide to go to graduate school, they will not ask you to solve American Airline case or discuss chicken contacts case from 1971. They will look at your GPA….or by they way, GPA tells about your ability to “…analyze, make educated guesses, and use any other means possible to solve the problem;” besides, I am quite sure that a half of the students even don’t follow him when he cracks his cases – you need to have some good marketing background in order to be able to analyze them. BUS 360 is PRINCIPALS (basics) of marketing concepts and that is what he needs to focus on. If someone wants to apply this knowledge into practical life and to develop “critical thinking skills, ability to break down complex scenarios into something manageable, etc.,” he/she will pursue further and deeper into 400 level classes, but for now, just let us graduate.

11/30/2006 12:50:30 AM

^^it's an intro class...a majority of the people in there won't be working in marketing so why make it so damn hard...all i need is an overview

11/30/2006 12:55:38 AM

has he said anything to the TH class in N3400 about taking the exam early...i know he mentioned it briefly that class right after the test but has he said what room the earlier exams will be in or if we need to tell him ahead of time that we plan to do that?

12/6/2006 6:20:20 PM

Not yet.

12/6/2006 8:03:09 PM

http://faculty.fuqua.duke.edu/~dbanks/mktg468/Marketing%20Strategy%20Calendar.htm

This look familiar to anyone? Looks like y'all are taking a 400 level course in marketing strategy.

12/7/2006 5:17:46 PM

Gee, Goodyear, Syntex, Colgate, and CNN...that doesn't sound familiar at all.

but then again...

Quote :

"his tests are not for undergraduates but rather for grads where he assumed that they already have some knowledge of the subject. His response was that he knows it and he purposely made it this way, so if all sections will do better than 70, he will be very surprised. "

12/7/2006 7:37:54 PM

bttt...who is in this class this semester...i got him 8:30-9:45 t/th

1/24/2007 9:37:35 PM

^i wish you great luck, my friend... great luck

1/24/2007 9:53:22 PM

11:45-1PM here

1/24/2007 9:58:38 PM

haha i feel sorry for all you suckers who didn't heed the warnings and got in the class anyway

1/24/2007 11:47:40 PM

yeah because i pick the teachers i want instead of the CLASSES THAT FIT INTO MY SCHEDULE

1/25/2007 1:23:48 PM

^that sucks

1/25/2007 6:46:46 PM

Banks is hard but gives one hell of a curve...have fun with the final, i completely guessed on about 7 of them

1/31/2007 12:02:08 PM

^haha i pretty much guessed on like 14 of em and still got a B....huge curve

1/31/2007 7:10:55 PM

sweet, no class today

2/1/2007 1:02:42 PM

Class avg. on the first test was 11.8 out of 15. He spent the majority of class today going over the test question by question. Does it get harder or did he get the message after last semester?

2/20/2007 11:38:28 PM