I hate it when analysts say this, and I seem to hear it all the time. Any time they talk about LT, they say something to the tune of "Not only is LT the best running back, but he is the best player at any position!"

How can you even compare them? Is Peyton Manning a better football player than Steve Hutchinson? Is Julius Peppers a better football player than Adam Vinatieri? Is T.O. a better football player than Ray Lewis?

You can only compare a player to another player of the same position.

discuss.

9/30/2006 1:15:40 PM

its either talk about that or talk about owens, ill listen to a ladanian story anyday before that

9/30/2006 1:16:44 PM

you can't even do that, because players serve different functions to their position. It's like comparing Michael Vick to Peyton Manning, or a speed back to a power back. It's just dumb overall.

9/30/2006 1:17:16 PM

You can say the same about every sport. It's all subjective. Is a 23 game winner more valuable then a 45 HR, 125 RBI guy in baseball? You can't say. It's part of what makes sports so interesting to talk about.

9/30/2006 1:19:46 PM

LDT

9/30/2006 1:21:03 PM

LT2

9/30/2006 1:29:53 PM

Whos better LT or LT?

9/30/2006 2:52:17 PM

LT

9/30/2006 2:57:08 PM

Ditka

9/30/2006 3:00:05 PM

Vitka

9/30/2006 4:50:55 PM

Quote :

"Is Julius Peppers a better football player than Adam Vinatieri?"

yes.

9/30/2006 7:53:29 PM

you can say "You can only compare a player to another player of the same position"
but the simple test is if you were making a brand new NFL team and you pick players one at a time
who would you pick first
that would be the best player in the NFL, in you opinion

9/30/2006 9:21:40 PM

OMG LETS NEVER COMPARE PLAYERS AGAIN

[Edited on September 30, 2006 at 10:15 PM. Reason : ^yup]

9/30/2006 10:15:21 PM

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"You can say the same about every sport. It's all subjective."

federer is the best men's tennis player. that is not subjective.

9/30/2006 10:17:27 PM

The problem is that there is nothing that an offensive lineman can do that proves he is better than LT, short of blocking the whole defense himself. Because someone plays a more visible postion, people will say that he is better.

Comparing players is fine, you can compare a lineman with another, or a RB with another, etc.

9/30/2006 10:51:13 PM

^^sharapova is the hottest female tennis player

also not subjective

9/30/2006 10:52:14 PM

^^^Tiger Woods is the best golfer. He is winning again this week too.

Except in the Ryder Cup when he reps U.S.A.

10/1/2006 12:11:57 AM

you can always compare players of different positions by how well they play their position in relation to other plays in the same position. Such as LT is the #1 running back in the NFL, and compare him to Brett Farve who is just a top 5 QB in the NFL.

10/1/2006 2:05:58 AM

^^ tiger went 2-2 in foursomes and fourball this year at the ryder cup with his partner, jim furyk, playing like total garbage

tiger also won his singles match on sunday

10/1/2006 9:58:28 AM

St Bush will soon be the best at any position.

10/1/2006 10:56:10 AM

They are doing this shit again.

[Edited on November 16, 2006 at 1:39 AM. Reason : Heard it on ESPN at least 10 times this week.]

11/16/2006 1:39:06 AM

It's because he is doing stuff no one has ever done in nfl history. LT is sick and is the best football player in the nfl.

11/16/2006 1:45:03 AM

Ray Lewis circa 1999-2003 was the most dominating player I had ever seen in football, he was EVERYWHERE on every damn play, either making the tackle or being the next player there just in case the guy broke the tackle. I could give a rats ass about Baltimore but love watching him.


As for right now I would say Manning or LT with a lot of other players really close in the second level

11/16/2006 1:51:22 AM

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"but the simple test is if you were making a brand new NFL team and you pick players one at a time who would you pick first that would be the best player in the NFL, in you opinion "

yup. he's the best player in the NFL because he is most effective and will impact the game in such a way that makes him the best. Teams have to prepare to defend LT... im sure they're arent as focused on Rivers (tho he's my hero)

11/16/2006 1:58:23 AM

but also depends on the draft order, team style etc....


I would rather have Steven Jackson and Walter Jones or Hutchinson than LT and some shithead Offensive Lineman


but I agree, most people would pick LT (or Manning)

[Edited on November 16, 2006 at 2:01 AM. Reason : d]

11/16/2006 2:01:10 AM

NO Phillip Rivers is better than LT. However when The coach calls for a running play everytime they get near a endzone then of course he will get alot of scores.

11/16/2006 8:59:40 AM

^ please tell me you're joking, what a stupid comment

have you watched any chargers games? LT is amazing

11/16/2006 1:38:17 PM

just wanted to gush over LT some more

http://www.signonsandiego.com/sports/canepa/20061121-9999-1s21canepa.html

seriously, some of these records he's breaking are insane

there's some high praise from marcus allen in that article, good stuff

go bolts

11/21/2006 3:19:55 PM

LT is the best player in the NFL.

And he has earned the nickname. He is just as good a running back as Lawrence Taylor was a linebacker.

11/21/2006 3:24:24 PM

Quote :

"NO Phillip Rivers is better than LT."

ahhahhahah

i have never seen a worse case of red-colored glasses

11/21/2006 3:28:37 PM

Quote :

"And he has earned the nickname. He is just as good a running back as Lawrence Taylor was a linebacker."

I will not call him LT until he does something truly special like break Joe Theismann's leg

11/21/2006 3:34:47 PM

Well that is a humorous retort. Seriously though, once he breaks Shaun Alexander's record in a few more games will he then earn the right to go by his initials?

[Edited on November 21, 2006 at 3:35 PM. Reason : Whoops, Herb had a typo]

11/21/2006 3:35:41 PM

I don't know exactly how you quantify the greatest, but you cant watch a Chargers game and not have your jaw drop a few times watching him run

11/21/2006 3:36:43 PM

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"you can't even do that, because players serve different functions to their position. It's like comparing Michael Vick to Peyton Manning, or a speed back to a power back. It's just dumb overall."

thats about as dumb as saying "it's apples and oranges, you can't compare them." BULLSHIT. the purpose of a comparison is to see the differences between them.

11/21/2006 4:58:08 PM

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"but the simple test is if you were making a brand new NFL team and you pick players one at a time, who would you pick first, that would be the best player in the NFL, in your opinion"

This is a great point and that's why they make it. This is why the draft is so interesting...who knows the impact. As much as I like LT and how he's helping Rivers be the star he is, I think Manning has the most impact. I know when Manning and the offense walk on the field (except maybe against Dallas) the offense is going to move down the field and probably score...which is his purpose. A Manning completion seems to be a higher percentage than LT getting through a hole in the line, Hutchinson getting a pancake block, or Peppers rushing the QB (very close but not quite).

11/21/2006 5:15:23 PM

i didnt read any of this thread

but lawrence taylor isnt playing anymore

11/21/2006 9:31:29 PM

LdT

11/21/2006 10:09:37 PM

LT is the best player in the NFL because he is the better at his position than anybody else in the NFL at their position

we know manning is good but is he better than brady??

the WR race for best is always a debate

LB same way

LT is head and shoulders above the other running backs right now

11/22/2006 11:53:30 AM

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" we know manning is good but is he better than brady??"

Yes.

11/22/2006 11:56:04 AM

^yeah, hes proved that every year in the playoffs

11/22/2006 12:00:52 PM

Quote :

"LT is head and shoulders above the other running backs right now"

this statement would be completely true if a guy named Larry Johnson wasnt in the league. Not saying that LJ is better than LT, but LT is definetly not head and shoulders above LJ

[Edited on November 22, 2006 at 12:21 PM. Reason : d]

11/22/2006 12:21:28 PM

^yes he is

11/22/2006 12:56:58 PM

Peppers is the best defensive end in the NFL, maybe he is the best player in the NFL.

Gates is the best TE in the NFL, maybe he is the best player.

Hutchinson is the best left guard in the NFL, maybe he is the best player.

etc.

11/22/2006 12:59:01 PM

LT is one of the most proffessional players in the NFL

a good role model

11/22/2006 1:14:28 PM

LT is the best player in the NFL

11/22/2006 1:17:42 PM

^^^ that's silly, peyton manning is the best player in the nfl

lt is the best rd, peppers is the best defensive end, etc....

11/23/2006 2:39:53 AM

Quote :

"Is Julius Peppers a better football player than Adam Vinatieri? "

yes. i bet peppers could kick a couple of field goals, but i doubt vinatieri would ever be able to rush a qb effectively.

11/23/2006 4:52:11 AM

Quote :

"you can always compare players of different positions by how well they play their position in relation to other plays in the same position. Such as LT is the #1 running back in the NFL, and compare him to Brett Farve who is just a top 5 QB in the NFL."

and

Quote :

"but the simple test is if you were making a brand new NFL team and you pick players one at a time, who would you pick first, that would be the best player in the NFL, in your opinion"

11/23/2006 9:58:11 AM

Peppers would be high, but LT would be ahead of him.



On the other hand...



I'd pick a QB first, so that system probably doesnt work anyway.

11/23/2006 11:02:13 AM

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