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our two most important players just happened to make the biggest mistake of their lives in the same game. you cant really blame them so i really don't want to hear any fire evans fire brown from ANYBODY. understand?

how many times has brown fumbled?-this play really killed us costing us 9 points(and the 2 we lost by)
how many ints has evans thrown?-without him we wouldn't have been in that position

if you want to blame somebody blame the defense. blame the pass rush.

after calling a perfect game last week why was trestman constantly calling the same baker up the middle and screen passes that werent working all game. what happened to dunlap and james downfield? why everygame does it take us being down in the 4th to start calling some plays that will move us downfield?

we gave them 9 points, played shitty on defense but wake played amazing. no fumbles, no drops, and damn that swank feller. why can't they fumble a snap against us?

we now pretty much have to win out or to be able to lose 1 more game we would need wake to lose 2 more, bc to lose, and clemson to lose 2 more (if the 1 loss is to clemson)

in other words its looking pretty ugly for us to win the division.

1 last thing
Athletics: no more noon games. I don't care if we will lose some money on tv, i rather win the games. we play like shit every noon game. put those shits at night

[Edited on October 14, 2006 at 5:43 PM. Reason : man im upset]

10/14/2006 5:39:57 PM

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no one read this. shut the fuck up

10/14/2006 5:41:08 PM

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http://www.thewolfweb.com/message_topic.aspx?topic=437138&page=15
and no one likes you.

10/14/2006 5:41:27 PM

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is anyone really super pissed about this loss?

it was a tough game that just didn't go our way

everyone always underestimates the State/Wake rivalry in both football and basketball

i think it would have been better for us is Wake won last week and this had been a night game (due mainly to traffic and getting to the stadium on time)

Evans made a rare second guess decision while getting hit at a crucial time in the game...that happens

The fumble...just an unlucky fumble

10/14/2006 5:43:34 PM

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There's a reason Wake Forest is 6-1. I'm glad we picked up 2 big wins in the homestand, though. If we can manage that on the upcoming road trips, it would be very good.

10/14/2006 5:43:40 PM

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we probobly would have won if wake recovered the andre fumble

i hate looking at it that way


and why does chuck call all the timeouts on 4th down for wake?

[Edited on October 14, 2006 at 5:46 PM. Reason : scared of a fake?]

10/14/2006 5:45:58 PM

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the reason why there weren't any downfield passes to james or dunlap like last week and boston college because wake forest primarily ran a cover 2 not man to man and you cant run routes like that against that coverage at this level and be successful....n00b. and evans got hit by a guy he couldnt see, that is why the ball sailed, not his fault. oh, and lastly -- trestman gets paid to call the plays, you dont. so shut up. if you dont like it then quit watching and coming to the games. if you're pissed over this loss because of how the team played then please stop watching us play.

the time out in the fourth quarter before that last field goal was to ice the kicker**

[Edited on October 14, 2006 at 5:51 PM. Reason : time outs]

10/14/2006 5:50:17 PM

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I'm glad you refer to something someone did during a football game as "the biggest mistake of their lives"

10/14/2006 5:52:08 PM

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we shouldn't have taken the first timeout

the second one i could go either way

the last one was used well

[Edited on October 14, 2006 at 5:52 PM. Reason : and athletics doesn't determine when games start, tv does]

10/14/2006 5:52:09 PM

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^ agreed

10/14/2006 5:53:36 PM

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^^^^im not telling trestman to do anything. im just asking why? i saw with my own eyes alot of 1 on 1 in the wake secondary especially on 1st 2nd downs before it became "late in the game".

and evans threw the ball while getting hit. the ball did not sail all the way up to the fs.

if im pissed because of how the team played stop watching? wtf where did you learn this shit? chapel hill?

gtfo im one of the best fans on here.

i saw a team that wasn't focused pregame. andre darrell and ernest were too busy doin the shoulda lean instead of mentallly preparing themselves for wake. i knew right then we would underestimate wake. you didnt see that the last 2 weeks.

[Edited on October 14, 2006 at 5:56 PM. Reason : ^^^i just can't spell carreer]

[Edited on October 14, 2006 at 6:01 PM. Reason : meh]

10/14/2006 5:56:18 PM

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most predictable college football program ever

10/14/2006 5:57:39 PM

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um cover 2 does not equal man to man. you did not see shit.
yes the ball did sail all the way up to the free safety. the guy he was trying to throw to was wide open across the middle.
i dont know what you mean by the chapel hill quote but suck my dick anyways
and finally you dont know what you're talkin about. i'm at practice everyday. i know what goes on. i know what the fuck i'm talking about. i'm on the sidelines during games. im in the locker room at half time. i help make the scouting reports so lick my taint you fuckin bitch. and one last thing...even if you are "one of the best fans on here" you're still worthless and should either overdose or go play in front of traffic

10/14/2006 6:02:58 PM

hcnguyen
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if you're on the sideline you probobly can't see everything as well. i didn't say anything about man to man but if you play cover 2 and either press the corners or bring the safeties up, its probobly gonna be 1 on 1 on the edges or at least 1 guy within making play distance of a wr.

10/14/2006 6:11:20 PM

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I like this noob^

10/14/2006 6:11:21 PM

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Apparently, and please do not take this as absolute fact, he got a concussion on that play where he got hit out of bounds a play before the pick. I heard this from a player on the team. If true, I think we can forgive an errant pass if he was still reeling from a concussion.

10/14/2006 6:14:18 PM

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"i saw with my own eyes alot of 1 on 1 in the wake secondary especially on 1st 2nd downs before it became "late in the game".
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i can see just fine from the sidelines thanks. if you were in the student section you were probably getting pissed on. which you're probably used to because you probably google "piss painters" or something...and also you're like to use the word "if". "if the corners pressed" or "if you move the safeties up" which is not what wake did. if they werent in base cover 2 then they were probably in cover 3 which the deep threat is definitely taken away. face it. we did the best we could on offense and our offense did not lose us the game. our defense's lackluster performance before the end of the half cost us the game. the offense played their asses off so go away. you've probably never played a down of football in your life. or maybe you have...you were probably a kicker werent you? i'm done talkin to you. learn the game of football and quit bitchin about shit you dont know shit about.

^he did take a hard hit, i'm not aware of any concussion though...

[Edited on October 14, 2006 at 6:20 PM. Reason : concussion?]

10/14/2006 6:19:17 PM

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I dunno, look into I guess. They guy who told me seemed pretty sure about it.

10/14/2006 6:23:34 PM

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"the reason why there weren't any downfield passes to james or dunlap like last week and boston college because wake forest primarily ran a cover 2 not man to man and you cant run routes like that against that coverage at this level and be successful....n00b."


All the same, I'm pretty sure James at the very least could have outjumped everyone on Wake's team with ease.

Then again, he didn't get on the field a ton, since he seems to be our 4th receiver with Blackman back.

10/14/2006 6:27:03 PM

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ABC/ESPN/affiliates read your post. all our games will be at 8pm on thursday now. Thanks.
(Way to not have a clue about how things are run in college football).




Oh, and don't post anymore because you don't know shit. everything you post is garbage. even the stuff that sorta makes sense, u are sure to follow it up with a moronic statement right afterward. on top of that as people have said i don't think people are really going "fire" anyone after this game. it was a well played football game. they are an extremely well coached team, with a very good offensive line, they control the clock and their kicker happen to have the game of his life.

[Edited on October 14, 2006 at 7:04 PM. Reason : .]

[Edited on October 14, 2006 at 7:05 PM. Reason : .]

10/14/2006 6:58:05 PM

HeythisisP
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daniel evans and andre brown for president/vice president

instead of complaining about the offense why dont you focus you're attention to the defense who gave up probably close to 100 yards on reverses alone. or what about deraney's kicking performance? granted the hold wasnt his fault, but the kick off out of bounds and the shitty punts were. and what about our kick off coverage team that gave up a return to midfield after we just scored a field goal to pull to within 5? our offense outplayed wake forest. we GAVE wake forest 9 points and still only lost by 2. this loss should not piss anyone off unless it's solely on the fact that we lost--not of anyone's performance on the field or on the sidelines. We never gave up and we fought till the end.

[Edited on October 14, 2006 at 7:20 PM. Reason : cant spell]

10/14/2006 7:17:29 PM

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"he reason why there weren't any downfield passes to james or dunlap like last week and boston college because wake forest primarily ran a cover 2 not man to man and you cant run routes like that against that coverage at this level and be successful....n00b."


That is a very false statement b/c Boston Coll ran the cover 2 multiple times. Evans found a way to weave the ball in there (between corner and saftey) so you are wrong.

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"we did the best we could on offense and our offense did not lose us the game."


Multiple dropped passes. Incorrect routes ran. So the blame does go to them. And I can bet that I know more about pack ball than you. The offensive play calling really hurt us. It kept us in 3rd and long all dad-gom day.

[Edited on October 14, 2006 at 7:32 PM. Reason : .]

10/14/2006 7:31:03 PM

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^penalties too. not that we had a lot, only 5, but some came at terrible times.

wake offense just takes your offense out of the game. they hold the ball forever yet do nothing. only had 3 points in the second half, felt like they had the ball enough to score 20. i think the biggest play of the game has to be the 3rd and 7 they converted by running that fucking reverse. that lead to the 53 yard fg(and a TO) instead of a punt.

10/14/2006 7:40:23 PM

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instead of complaining about the offense why dont you focus you're attention to the defense who gave up probably close to 100 yards on reverses alone. "


i hope you weren't talking to me. i said it was the ds fault all along...
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if you want to blame somebody blame the defense. blame the pass rush"


and i've been the only one saying all season that punting is hurting deraney. he's just the best we've got so you can't blame him.

[Edited on October 14, 2006 at 7:54 PM. Reason : whew]

10/14/2006 7:54:06 PM

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the dude has missed like one kick all year.

stop acting like you attend practice and hang out with these guys. like deraney called u up last night and was like "oh man this punting gig is killing me."

this is his third year doing this shit why would it all the sudden start catching up to him now? i'm not saying that its not possible he's tired or that just doing a lot of kicking in general can be rough but don't make these statements like your in the fucking locker room. that shit pisses me off when people just assume shit.

10/14/2006 8:01:36 PM

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earl i would bet all the jizz in my nuts that i know more about "pack ball" than you. this is the 4th year i have been in the football progam. and no my dick sucking piece of shit fucktard...you are wrong. the pass to dunlap that won the game (which is the pass i'm talkin about) was 1 on 1 coverage you fuck nugget. and the passes that james caught against florida state (minus the touchdown) was also against 1 on 1 coverage. Dunlap's touchdown against florida state was caught on 1 on 1 coverage. yes, the passes on the sidelines were against cover 2 where evans used a pump fake to keep the corner in the flats to open up the whole between the corner and safety but that is not the plays we're talkin about so go jack off to football weekly. yes the penalties and the dropped passes hurt us, but they did not kill us and cost us the game. oh and earl....fuck you.

10/14/2006 8:36:25 PM

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"we did the best we could on offense and our offense did not lose us the game."


really? the dropped balls didn't effect us any? (namely the dropped 2 point conv) The interception at the end didn't effect us? the fumble that ultimately resulted in 9 points didn't hurt us? Sure the defense should not have allowed 7 of those points in that time . . . but they wouldn't have been in that position if someone didn't have a huge fumble.

You can't put this loss on just the defense or just the offense or just the special teams. There was poor execution all over the field that each thing by itself might not have cost us the game . . . but the sum of the mistakes was too much to overcome.

[Edited on October 14, 2006 at 8:43 PM. Reason : ]

10/14/2006 8:39:16 PM

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i hope you all die of rectal chlamydia...really. all you guys do on here is fuckin bitch and moan about every god damn thing and everytime i come on here and read the shit you guys say it pisses me off more and more. these players played a hard fought game. not once did they give up or think we were going to lose the game. so fuck all of you guys. oh and if you blame play calling then i have no respect for you what so ever. when it's your profession to call plays then you can judge. i'm out--fuck all of you worthless pieces of shit. enjoy watchin the game in the piss section

10/14/2006 8:45:57 PM

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our offense averages what, 21 pts per game. When we're perfectley capable of scoring more. Under performers. You can't blame the defense for that!

^I think you're mad b/c you dont get any play time. And you're up here with us twwers, thats all. How's the view on the bench? I always wondered that.

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Its better than the bench any day.

[Edited on October 14, 2006 at 8:52 PM. Reason : .]

10/14/2006 8:48:58 PM

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"these players played a hard fought game. not once did they give up or think we were going to lose the game."


never said they didn't play hard or that they gave up. Just said that mental mistakes cost the game.

10/14/2006 8:51:06 PM

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oh shit. Noob fight. HeythisisP v. Earl haha.

^damn. That's some lee corso shit right there. Also the offense should never give up jumpshots(Lee corso's quote about safeties in NCAA football).

[Edited on October 14, 2006 at 8:53 PM. Reason : ]

10/14/2006 8:52:00 PM

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I love reading how an NCSU Football player called out of all of you worthless shits..who call yoruself State fans...must suck knowing that even after a hard fought game our panzy ass fans still cant find something good to give Evans & company encouragement!!

State football players pick yourself up, shake it off and just know that your true fans are the one's who will be traveling to your road games this year...and NOT the one's who complain that we should of one by 2 touchdowns instead of a field goal.

10/14/2006 8:52:45 PM

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they don't get credit for playing a hard fought game!??!?! get the fuck outta here!!

You get credit for winning. We had that game. Im tired of fucking losing to WF

Now some unknown bench warmer wants to get up here and talk shit, when we looked like fucking shit on both sides of the damn ball. Dropped passes, were not focused at ALL, and now he wants to say "we fought hard". We could have beat that fucking team. Hell, we had em. Im not gonna point fingers, but I definitely won't stick up for our offense!!


[Edited on October 14, 2006 at 8:57 PM. Reason : .]

10/14/2006 8:53:23 PM

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^^I don't think he's a player . . . he said he helps make the scouting report so I would think he is like a trainer or something,

10/14/2006 8:55:33 PM

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"the time out in the fourth quarter before that last field goal was to ice the kicker**
-HeythisisP "


To be so knowledgeable, you should go back and check on that one. Chuck said there were 12 men on the field.




[Edited on October 14, 2006 at 8:59 PM. Reason : ]

10/14/2006 8:55:38 PM

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again...talkin about shit you know absolutely nothing about. i'm not a player, i make scouting reports. that is what i do. i watch film of who we play and draw up their plays into a scouting report. i used to play football until i had shoulder surgery and transferred here. oh and watchin games from "the bench" is always better than gettin pissed on. so whatever

^i dont know anything about that...if that's what he said then i was wrong. that is what everyone around me, as well as me, was thinking...if that's the case then fine...still a legitimate time out? great point. you rock.

padowack...instead of coming to the georgia tech and ecu games...stay at home with your boyfriend and watch lifetime movies instead. you're just a piece of shit that thinks he's tough shit and wishes he could play college ball because he was "all-neighborhood" in high school.

[Edited on October 14, 2006 at 9:02 PM. Reason : correction]

[Edited on October 14, 2006 at 9:06 PM. Reason : padowack can suck his own dick]

10/14/2006 9:00:38 PM

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I never got pissed on. But I know one damn thing, you're not going to tell me you see everything on the bench. If you arn't a player/coach/waterboy, then you sure as hell dont have a front row seat on that sideline. Now, I respect you for being whatever you are, making scouting reports or whatever, but don't get up here and act like you're the shit. And nobody else knows nothing.

^you're the one who got "rocked" and had the shoulder injury, faggott. Why did you come here anyway? I see you transfered. Football was too tough for you, instead you had to pick up a pencil and a pad. hahahahah, what a bitch.

[Edited on October 14, 2006 at 9:11 PM. Reason : .]

10/14/2006 9:09:06 PM

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um actually...the only seats on the sidelines are the benches and they're for the players. i, on the other hand, am free to walk around the sideline as i wish. most of the time i am standing right next to trestman and helping call in plays...so.....yes, i am the shit and you know nothing. the end. look for me on tv next week at maryland. i'm done with you guys....ya'll can continue yelling at dan for throwin a pick or get pissed at dre because he fumbled the ball or get pissed at ant because he dropped passes or get pissed at trestman for calling terrible plays but before i leave i tell you this:
Stone could be playing
and
We could still have noel mazzone
So suck it up accept the loss with dignity and stay supportive. if not...then i dont give a squirt of piss about you and you can never come to a game again. i wont lose and sleep.

^mother fucker you dont know shit about me so just shut your fuckin mouth. you also didnt know the fact that i was diagnosed with cancer you stupid fuck and that's why i had shoulder surgery...cause i had a tumor in my shoulder. so next time your fucking pathetic brain has a thought...just let it go because i will fucking beat the shit out of you if i ever meet you. write that down.

[Edited on October 14, 2006 at 9:19 PM. Reason : frustration]

10/14/2006 9:16:43 PM

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get the fuck outta here already! why are you here? Your scouting report failed, you fucking know-it-all.

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we don't even know who the hell you are. Nor do we care.

[Edited on October 14, 2006 at 9:20 PM. Reason : .]

10/14/2006 9:19:09 PM

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"ya'll can continue yelling at dan for throwin a pick or get pissed at dre because he fumbled the ball or get pissed at ant because he dropped passes"


I'm not pissed at any of them, they all played hard. Disapointed . . . maybe . . . hopefull that they will get it done next week . . . definately . . . gonna still go to the games and cheer as loud as I possibly can . . . absolutely.

You were just saying that the loss wasn't on the offense, but was solely because of the defense.

10/14/2006 9:22:11 PM

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ooooohhhh im scared now. Scout boy wants to beat my ass. You know what, if you didnt talk so much shit, i might feel sorry for you. Go back to the school you came from. You come up here getting all pissed b/c noone agreed with you about our offense then you talk down on us like we know nothing.

[Edited on October 14, 2006 at 9:25 PM. Reason : .]

10/14/2006 9:23:53 PM

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^^^^ lol someone thinks he's hot shit...get a life

[Edited on October 14, 2006 at 9:26 PM. Reason : .]

10/14/2006 9:26:19 PM

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"i am standing right next to trestman and helping call in plays...so.....yes, i am the shit and you know nothing. "
so thats why he's so protective of trestman and the offensive calls.

and no its not my job to call the plays but i can still wonder why about x and y plays on the play calling because thats one of my jobs as a fan.

and don't sit there and say "if you did it you would see how hard it is" because its not what i call myself good at and im not getting paid six figures to do it.

and lastly, THERE IS NO WAY YOU CAN READ COVERAGES ALL GAME FROM THE SIDELINE AS WELL AS SOMEONE WITH A BETTER ANGLE.

10/14/2006 9:28:13 PM

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No, he's acting like we don't have the right to be pissed off about the loss?!?!?! wtf dude. we all want to win. Im not going to sugar coat our loss. Im fucking pissed, b/c I know we can do better, Ive seen us do better.

10/14/2006 9:28:22 PM

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"most of the time i am standing right next to trestman and helping call in plays...so.....yes, i am the shit and you know nothing. "


If you're such a big man, do us all a favor and tell him to stop calling a draw play up the middle on first down.

Everyone knows it's coming. Even those of us who aren't hanging out on the sidelines doing bitch work.

Also, you might want to try suggesting a run to the outside, where the speed of our team is an advantage, rather than into our makeshift offensive line (though it has been pretty good in pass coverage this year).

Betting Time: HeythisisP's response contains at least 3 "fuck"s, two 5 "shit"s and one threat of bodily harm.

[Edited on October 14, 2006 at 9:30 PM. Reason : .]

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10/14/2006 9:29:56 PM

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oh snap, this just got funny.

10/14/2006 9:32:53 PM

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he makes the "scouting reports". But our very high-powered offense struggles viciously to score 21 pts per game. Now I get it. And people who sit in the fan section don't know shit about fball b/c we are getting pissed on, while he's being tretsman's little scrotum messager.

He's going to beat my ass, even with a bad shoulder.

[Edited on October 14, 2006 at 9:38 PM. Reason : .]

10/14/2006 9:37:17 PM

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"es the penalties and the dropped passes hurt us, but they did not kill us and cost us the game. oh and earl....fuck you."


You failed to see the two pt conversion dropped pass to the endzone. Your argument against downfield passes is rendered useless, simply because cover 2's give up the deep ball in exchange for shorter intermediate routes. Your biased support for our offense stems from your unproven claims to be a "scout reporter". And im not going to engage you in a shouting/insult match. I just get a kick out of proving you wrong, like I do most people up here.

10/14/2006 11:00:03 PM

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damn. Earl gets 2 pts on that one.

10/14/2006 11:02:53 PM

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this thread is truely

10/10



in other news why do we wait until the end of the game to throw downfield

10/14/2006 11:44:03 PM

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