The Cricket All American 2302 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "ORLANDO, Florida (CNN) -- A 15-year-old high school student died Thursday about two hours after being stabbed at a bus stop on school property, police said.
Michael Nieves died shortly after 4 p.m. at Florida Hospital East with at least one stab wound to the chest, said Carlos Padilla, a spokesman for the Orange County Sheriff's Office.
Kelvin De La Cruz, 17, was booked into jail on first-degree murder charges as an adult, said sheriff's spokesman Jim Solomons.
After the stabbing, the suspect "ran under the bus and tried to change his clothes," but was quickly apprehended, Orange County Sheriff Kevin Beary told reporters.
Investigators recovered a knife, Padilla said.
"Pocket knives do not belong on school campus," Beary said. "It's hard to prevent, but you do the best you can."
The school has no metal detectors, said Ron Blocker, superintendent of Orange County Schools.
"Apparently, the two students during lunch got into a verbal altercation and a fight," he said. "They were arguing, and when they got out about 2:14 in the afternoon the fight continued on to the bus stop. And there they became involved in a physical fight, and one produced a knife and stabbed the other one in the chest."
The stabbing occurred as University High School in east Orlando, Florida, was letting out for the day, Blocker said.
Solomons said police were investigating whether the incident was gang-related but that it did not appear to be.
"It appears to be a grudge ... over a female," he said.
Afterward, outside the school, a group of students held hands and prayed. " |
Damn, that's cold.10/20/2006 9:56:45 AM |
wlb420 All American 9053 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "It appears to be a grudge ... over a female" |
Damn skirts.10/20/2006 10:10:57 AM |
Shaggy All American 17820 Posts user info edit post |
obviously this shows the dangers of knives. They should be promptly banned in all states in the union! 10/20/2006 10:42:29 AM |
arcgreek All American 26690 Posts user info edit post |
of course it's over a girl 10/20/2006 10:43:49 AM |
Lutra All American 12588 Posts user info edit post |
Schools really need a zero tolerance policy for things like this. You beat another student, we get a giant man to beat you. You stab a student, we get someone to stab you. An eye for an eye in instances like this. However, I realize some of those hardcore crazy emo school shooters want to kill themselves anyway, so we'd have to like, make them work at Build a Bear or something. 10/20/2006 11:35:06 AM |
hooksaw All American 16500 Posts user info edit post |
^^^ Agree. If it makes SO much sense to do it with guns, why aren't we hearing of a knife control bill? 10/20/2006 11:38:49 AM |
Perlith All American 7620 Posts user info edit post |
I saw this story on CNN.com this morning and my first thought was: "Why is this in the national news?". 10/20/2006 12:06:30 PM |
pmc Veteran 372 Posts user info edit post |
Or a child-control bill. Make it a federal offense for any children to come within 1000 ft. of a school zone. (Of course, these folks are 15 and 17, so calling them "children" may be a bit much.)
Seems like that teen has no concept of proportionate response. You get into a war of words with me over a girl, therefore I fatally stab you in the chest. 10/20/2006 12:08:46 PM |
jbtilley All American 12797 Posts user info edit post |
We need thought police. 10/20/2006 12:15:50 PM |
ddlakhan All American 990 Posts user info edit post |
bro's before ho's..... clearly they didnt have there priorities straight. 10/20/2006 12:21:25 PM |
Lutra All American 12588 Posts user info edit post |
^^^Obviously, he was an uppity black dude. 10/20/2006 12:38:02 PM |
Shadowrunner All American 18332 Posts user info edit post |
obviously this shows the dangers of girls. They should be promptly banned in all states in the union! 10/20/2006 12:47:22 PM |
The Cricket All American 2302 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "An eye for an eye in instances like this " |
An eye for an eye makes the whole world blind ~ Mahatma Gandhi10/20/2006 1:14:18 PM |
kinetix All American 3122 Posts user info edit post |
ban females 10/20/2006 1:18:50 PM |
The Cricket All American 2302 Posts user info edit post |
^ that seems reasonable 10/20/2006 1:20:35 PM |
bgmims All American 5895 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "An eye for an eye makes the whole world blind ~ Mahatma Gandhi " |
I like freeballing in my tunic ~Mahatma Gandhi10/20/2006 1:34:59 PM |
Shaggy All American 17820 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "obviously this shows the dangers of girls. They should be promptly banned in all states in the union!
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yes definitely!10/20/2006 2:17:38 PM |
hooksaw All American 16500 Posts user info edit post |
Bring me a McCurry Goat Cheese Sandwich. --Eddie Murphy as Gandhi 10/20/2006 2:19:10 PM |
bgmims All American 5895 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "After the stabbing, the suspect "ran under the bus and tried to change his clothes," but was quickly apprehended, Orange County Sheriff Kevin Beary told reporters. " |
This is my favorite part of the story...
He like, dives under a bus and puts on a different shirt and then gets out and is like "What is going on here, I think that boy is injured!"10/20/2006 2:47:51 PM |
emory All American 1000 Posts user info edit post |
Take the 17 year old, tie him up, hold an assembly in the gymnasium and cut his goddamn throat in front of the whole school. Nobody gets dismissed until he quits squirming.
Then encourage the other students not to follow in his path. 10/20/2006 5:38:29 PM |
Saddamizer Suspended 5294 Posts user info edit post |
use a saw like the arabs on that video
and have 'smooth criminal' playing for a soundtrack 10/20/2006 5:42:26 PM |
sumfoo1 soup du hier 41043 Posts user info edit post |
the ho should be the one going to jail 10/20/2006 10:31:17 PM |
Førte All American 23525 Posts user info edit post |
the ho should be the one going to jail 10/21/2006 8:40:10 PM |
jprince11 All American 14181 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "^^^ Agree. If it makes SO much sense to do it with guns, why aren't we hearing of a knife control bill?" |
knives can also be considered a tool and are harder to kill with10/21/2006 9:12:42 PM |
Docido All American 4642 Posts user info edit post |
I think all of this could have been avoided if they banned playing tag during recess. Obviously it makes kids violent. 10/21/2006 9:12:43 PM |
humandrive All American 18286 Posts user info edit post |
Ban bus stops 10/21/2006 9:21:08 PM |
gunguy All American 775 Posts user info edit post |
^^^ i could kill someone by runnig them over or beating them w/ a baseball bat. maybe they should make a law so i can't drive to a game. 10/21/2006 9:57:32 PM |
Supplanter supple anteater 21831 Posts user info edit post |
If only we gave knives out to every student, that would solve the problem. that way you have self defense, and if you see someone in troubling, you can run up and start stabbing the perceived aggressor. If a couple of students have knives, I want my kids, my friends, and anyone I know or they know to have knives too! You can't close the pandora's box of knives, so theres no point in trying to keep knives away from school, what you need is as many knives as possible to solve the problem.
[Edited on October 21, 2006 at 10:03 PM. Reason : .] 10/21/2006 10:02:23 PM |
Shivan Bird Football time 11094 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "Schools really need a zero tolerance policy for things like this." |
Zero tolerance for murder? That's a good idea. Maybe they should give him lots of detention, in addition to decades in prison.
Quote : | "An eye for an eye makes the whole world blind ~ Mahatma Gandhi" |
Have the ethics of non-retribution ever worked in practice?10/21/2006 10:26:29 PM |
Stiletto All American 2928 Posts user info edit post |
^ Depends on what you're talking about. Gandhi did lead one of the less bloody independence movements in colonial European history. 10/22/2006 12:03:03 AM |
fjjackso All American 14538 Posts user info edit post |
that's terrible 10/22/2006 1:11:07 AM |
absolutapril All American 8144 Posts user info edit post |
Unbelievable. Schools can't solve the problem---the problem is at home. The parents should get the lock-up too. 10/22/2006 10:25:53 PM |