Ds97Z All American 1687 Posts user info edit post |
The US Constitution and the Amendments DO NOT "give" Rights to the US Citizens, rather, it spells-out the mechanics of what the US Government is allowed to do and not do (giving "rights" to the Government).
This is another important thing the politicians for the past several (dozen??) administrations just don't seem to understand.
The US Government DOES NOT have the right to: infringe on free speach.
The Government DOES NOT have the right to: keep people from assembly.
The Government DOES NOT have the right to: addressing governmental problems.
The US The Government DOES NOT have the right to: establish a religion or prohibit a religion.
The Government DOES NOT have the right to: keep the citizens from possessing firearms or weapons.
The Government DOES NOT have the right to: board soldiers in your home without your consent during peacetime, nor in time of war without proper rules being followed.
The Government DOES NOT have the right to: keep you in jail for extended periods of time and must provide you with a speedy AND public trial.
The Government DOES NOT have the right to: tax you without your representative's involvement in the process.
The Government DOES NOT have the right to: search your home, or seize your property without a proper warrant.
The Government DOES NOT have the right to: deprive you of life, liberty, or property without due process of law.
The Government DOES NOT have the right to: take private property without just compensation.
The Government DOES NOT have the right to: demand excessive bail or fines.
The Government DOES NOT have the right to: impose cruel and unusual punishments.
The Government DOES NOT have the right to: etc., etc., etc. 11/16/2006 11:35:13 AM |
pwrstrkdf250 Suspended 60006 Posts user info edit post |
too bad they don't realize that 11/16/2006 11:37:27 AM |
LoneSnark All American 12317 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "The US Government DOES NOT have the right to: infringe on free speach." |
But is money considered speech?11/16/2006 11:39:31 AM |
spöokyjon ℵ 18617 Posts user info edit post |
speach 11/16/2006 12:04:34 PM |
pwrstrkdf250 Suspended 60006 Posts user info edit post |
I managed to read his post, notice the word, and keep going
sorry it troubled you spook 11/16/2006 12:07:15 PM |
Scuba Steve All American 6931 Posts user info edit post |
the word corporation isnt in the constitution either 11/16/2006 12:56:29 PM |
bgmims All American 5895 Posts user info edit post |
Nor does it say "internets" 11/16/2006 1:03:53 PM |
Madman All American 3412 Posts user info edit post |
why do you sometimes say "US government" and sometimes say simply "government". that's confusing. and bad writing. 11/16/2006 1:10:46 PM |
pwrstrkdf250 Suspended 60006 Posts user info edit post |
glad to see we've successfully avoided the issues 11/16/2006 1:48:08 PM |
Wolfpack2K All American 7059 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "why do you sometimes say "US government" and sometimes say simply "government". that's confusing. and bad writing.
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No, it's accurate. Many of the rights (or restrictions, however it please you) are applied to the state governments through the Due Process Clause of the Fourteenth Amendment under it's current interpretation, but some are not. For example, the grand jury clause is not applicable to the state judicial systems.11/16/2006 3:06:21 PM |
PinkandBlack Suspended 10517 Posts user info edit post |
what is there to discuss? it's pretty cut and dry and i dont think anyone here (in this incredibly homogenous soap box) as any real issues with it. 11/16/2006 3:09:31 PM |
jwb9984 All American 14039 Posts user info edit post |
yep, that appears to be the bill or rights
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[Edited on November 16, 2006 at 4:35 PM. Reason : .] 11/16/2006 4:35:03 PM |
PinkandBlack Suspended 10517 Posts user info edit post |
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[Edited on November 16, 2006 at 4:50 PM. Reason : .] 11/16/2006 4:49:56 PM |
JonHGuth Suspended 39171 Posts user info edit post |
point? 11/16/2006 5:35:23 PM |
nutsmackr All American 46641 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | " The Government DOES NOT have the right to: addressing governmental problems." |
why even have a government if they can't do this?11/16/2006 5:41:21 PM |
LoneSnark All American 12317 Posts user info edit post |
I ask myself that everyday. 11/16/2006 6:06:30 PM |
Dentaldamn All American 9974 Posts user info edit post |
shouldnt this be in chit chat 11/16/2006 6:18:09 PM |
lthlsnke260 Veteran 466 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "yep, that appears to be the bill of rights" |
11/16/2006 8:36:01 PM |
quiet guy Suspended 3020 Posts user info edit post |
IN YOUR CONSTITUTIONS
KEEPING KINGS OF ENGLAND OUT OF YOUR FACE 11/16/2006 9:56:38 PM |
dyson All American 563 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "The Government DOES NOT have the right to: keep people from assembly." |
When you have a mob rioting, i think most people would call........ the police. Wait, that's the government, they don't have a righ to break up a mob. 11/16/2006 11:15:42 PM |
umbrellaman All American 10892 Posts user info edit post |
^I think what he meant was "the Government DOES NOT have the right to: keep people from peaceful assembly." 11/16/2006 11:22:51 PM |
dyson All American 563 Posts user info edit post |
^ for the most part true, but what about health code violations, and public safety issues. the government still has the right to police it's society. what you have to weigh is whether or not personal freedoms are being trampled upon because the government is overstepping those boundaries. 11/16/2006 11:31:51 PM |
LoneSnark All American 12317 Posts user info edit post |
^ No, because everyone will place those boundaries in a different place. Do we trust people to borrow sensibly at a high interest rate? Do we trust restaurant owners to not serve dog meat? Do we trust sick people to decide when a drug is safe enough? Do we trust people to not get carried away with marijuana?
To these questions some will answer yes, others will answer no, so when is the government overstepping the boundaries when no one can agree where they should be? 11/17/2006 7:50:13 AM |