Serious question: Does anyone still think Chuck Amato has what it takes to make us competitive in the ACC, or even be the best in the state of NC for that matter? I see a few people still holding on to the "we're a QB away!" line, but they seem to ignore the fact that we've been like that every year since Rivers left, and it's been 3 years.

I think we're seeing now more than ever that Rivers was our true coach from 2000 to 2003.

11/19/2006 3:32:41 PM

fuck no

he is a cancer to this team, him and fowler both. the boosters need to step up and chuck them both

11/19/2006 3:33:35 PM

there are always a few idiots in the world

I predict there are 3 people that are willing to give him "next year" with a new QB and all that other crap that they think will make us good.


3 idiots, my prediction

11/19/2006 3:34:25 PM

it seems there are 3 types:

1. those who want him gone
2. those who want to give him one more year
3. those who will only accept cowher as a replacement, and seeing how that's not going to happen, accept amato as the hc for as long as possible until we can get him

only one is right, imo.

11/19/2006 3:37:08 PM

I vote #1.

11/19/2006 3:38:42 PM

#1

11/19/2006 3:39:18 PM

#1, and I will personally drive him out of town.

11/19/2006 3:43:04 PM

I really want to go get a 'house for sale by owner' sign and stick it in his yard

11/19/2006 3:45:51 PM

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"those who will only accept cowher as a replacement, and seeing how that's not going to happen, accept amato as the hc for as long as possible until we can get him"

11/19/2006 3:54:45 PM

only one is right, imo.

11/19/2006 3:58:33 PM

#1....

possibly #3 if and ONLY if we know for a fact that Cowher will come no later than 2008

seeing as that is about .0000000000000000001% likely......see #1

11/19/2006 4:02:51 PM

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"no he is a cancer to this team, him and fowler both. the boosters need to step up and chuck them both"

11/19/2006 4:33:16 PM

we can't get anyone better unless we get cowher some how

11/19/2006 4:41:51 PM

I just hate it for my brother... All the freakin' $$$ he gives to support the program, and this is the crap he has to watch year after year... He's loyal though and loves his alma mater.

[Edited on November 19, 2006 at 4:47 PM. Reason : blah...]

11/19/2006 4:47:14 PM

i wonder if the same people that want to keep Chuck are the people who wanted to keep Herb?

it kind of relates actually

11/19/2006 4:50:40 PM

^possibly







except nobody wants to keep chuck now

11/19/2006 4:52:24 PM

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"i wonder if the same people that want to keep Chuck are the people who wanted to keep Herb? it kind of relates actually"

i think there's more of a correlation between people who wanted to keep Herb and people who wanted to keep Jay Davis

11/19/2006 5:06:29 PM

i was a Herb supporter but am totally against Amato continuing to coach this team

Two reasons:

1. Herb did do a lot of winning while he was here, I mean we did make 5 straight NCAA tournaments and a sweet 16; it just wasn't enough winning for a good portion of the fanbase (even though IMO that is not why most people didn't like him)

2. Herb had control over his team at all times. It seems as though Amato has not had complete control over any team since he has been here. Herb's teams had discipline (maybe too much ). Chuck's have no discpline whatsoever.

11/19/2006 5:12:32 PM

good rebuttal


http://www.footballscoop.com/scoop.htm

by the way, has a nice bit about it

11/19/2006 5:18:04 PM

The bottom line is this:

The difference between having talent and winning games is coaching.

We have all the talent needed to win the ACC and we lost to a Carolina team that was the worst they've ever been. Amato is NOT a great coach. I want the guy from Rutgers.

11/19/2006 5:19:32 PM

why? he just lost to Cincy and he proved himself in the big least?

he's got a recruiters dream in Jersey

WVU game them that game IMO

id rather hire that agent that UNC got to get Butch and go with who he says.

11/19/2006 5:21:14 PM

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"we can't get anyone better unless we get cowher some how"

Do you even realize what you're saying there? You're saying that

1) either Cowher is more obtainable than someone like mike leach or pat hill.
2) or chuck is serioulsy better than those guys.

No coach in ACC history has done so little with so much. Put him at Duke with Duke players and Duke facilities, and he'd be as good as Ted Roof, maybe slightly better b/c of his defensive coaching (and that, as we've seen, was mostly great players).

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"he's got a recruiters dream in Jersey"

Then why has Rutgers sucked so bad in the past?

[Edited on November 19, 2006 at 5:23 PM. Reason : .]

11/19/2006 5:21:25 PM

^you could make the argument that UNC is doing about as little with as much as NCSU considering their recruiting has been very good the past couple of seasons.

oh wait, they fired their coach though and are doing something about it. Oh well.

11/19/2006 5:24:27 PM

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"then why has Rutgers sucked so bad in the past?"

Because they couldn't keep the talent in-state....duh.

11/19/2006 6:02:11 PM

^^^^^^
"NC State: We heard the top boosters had dinner with the AD and said fire Chuck Amato on Monday and go after Bill Cowher with everything they got or they pull donations. Plus Cowher just bought some real estate there."

I wonder if that is reputable at all... not the cowher part because thats a longshot but the part about the top boosters pushing for chuck to be fired.

11/19/2006 6:16:33 PM

^I guess we'll find out tomorrow...

11/19/2006 8:20:02 PM

^I think the rumor about the firing being tomorrow is bogus.

^^But yes....three of the top five donors met with Lee today and threatened to pull their funds if something wasn't done.

MONEY TALKS.

11/19/2006 8:22:31 PM

and bullshit coaches

11/19/2006 8:35:21 PM

^well...i hope you guys are right.....if we fire his ass tomorrow then we can talk about that with unc fans instead of how we got our ass kicked

11/19/2006 8:36:37 PM

there are rumors similar to what is stated above on the sporting news website also....in the blogs section

11/19/2006 8:36:37 PM

can you provide a link...I'm interested to read that

11/19/2006 8:44:29 PM

http://www.sportingnews.com/yourturn/viewtopic.php?t=150308

11/19/2006 8:46:36 PM

I'll believe it when I see it. Until then it's just a bunch of bull going around just like everything else.

11/19/2006 8:51:09 PM

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"N.C. State --- will need an experienced coach who can win at the major college level - names interested Gary Barnett (Colorado), Frank Solich (Nebraska and Ohio U), and Dennis Green (Arizona Cardinals) "

uhh?

[Edited on November 19, 2006 at 8:55 PM. Reason : true?]

11/19/2006 8:55:17 PM

IT'S POSTED BY SOME RANDOM USER SO MY GUESS WOULD BE NO. if you're referring to the possible replacements post.

[Edited on November 19, 2006 at 8:56 PM. Reason : hfd]

11/19/2006 8:56:34 PM

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"They are who we thought they were. And we let 'em off the hook. "

[Edited on November 19, 2006 at 8:57 PM. Reason : ]

11/19/2006 8:56:50 PM

IF YOU WANNA CROWN 'EM, THEN CROWN THEIR ASS

11/19/2006 8:58:45 PM

IT'S BULLSHI-BULLSHIT

11/19/2006 9:00:03 PM

I have heard this numerous times the past few weeks: "I have a whole new respect for the ability and success of Bobby Bowden, because he won national titles with that dumbass Chuck Amato as his assistant head coach."

I honestly have to say, I agree.

11/19/2006 9:13:20 PM

FIRE CHUCK

11/19/2006 9:24:47 PM

I don't really think Chuck is "the man" but I odn't know who else we could get and have just sort of realized the fact that we are NC State and will continue to screw up as long as Lee Fowler is the AD.

11/19/2006 9:53:42 PM

So you're syaing you're a defeatist that is too dumb to realize that the difficult task would be finding a coach that is WORSE than Amato?

[Edited on November 19, 2006 at 9:59 PM. Reason : dhhd]

11/19/2006 9:56:06 PM

Well..I'm saying that I've realized that we aren't gonna fire chuck so why keep worrying about it.

11/19/2006 9:59:10 PM

http://html.wral.com/sh/blogger/wralacc.html

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"Chuck Amato is a smart man and he knows that in his seventh season State is no longer a program on the rise, and as the head coach, he has to take the responsibility. It's his program. He put it together. "

11/19/2006 10:10:21 PM

I'm guessing that Chuck Amato still does

11/19/2006 10:20:38 PM

http://html.wral.com/sh/blogger/wralacc.html

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"And more times than not, their biggest enemy has worn red and white."

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"Or just maybe again, the talent there hasn't been coached all that well. "

11/19/2006 10:32:25 PM

You know it's hard out there for a coach

11/19/2006 11:59:09 PM

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"i was a Herb supporter but am totally against Amato continuing to coach this team"

I never really was on the Chuck bandwagon, and Ive made it well known that I wanted Herb here. Herb was fucking winning in and finishing top 4 in the ACC and Chuck's best is a 4th place finish. One more thing, a lot of people said well Ill see what Herb can do when he losses Hodge, we finished 22-10 and 4th place.

11/20/2006 12:00:12 AM

^ Bingo

11/20/2006 8:55:00 AM

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"we are NC State and will continue to screw up as long as Lee Fowler is the AD"

11/20/2006 9:04:45 AM