Does anyone else think it is rediculous that with the DUI laws you can now get a DUI for riding your bicycle drunk. I think this is absolutly rediculous. If anything it should be a safe alternative to driving and be encouraged to keep people out of the drivers seat.

I can somewhat understand the rationale behind the law, howvever, i think someone driving a bicycle drunk should be charged with a minor infraction (i.e public intoxication, reckless endagerment). Driving a 3000 lb car is a whole magnitude more dangerous then someone biking down the road at 15 mph. With the current law though i could still get a DUI with the same legal complications also effecting my car insurance and driving privlidges.

btw FUCK MADD a bunch of whiny bitches, shit happens get over it.

http://www.thenewspaper.com/news/08/853.asp

11/29/2006 9:53:42 AM

The article is about scooters.

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"The Appeals Court upheld his conviction, ruling that one may drive "horses, bicycles, or lawnmowers" as well as Segways and wheelchairs on public roads while drunk, but not scooters."

11/29/2006 10:08:47 AM

I'm pretty sure a Segway, lawnmower, or horse could fuck someone up if they ran into them when drunk.

11/29/2006 10:12:09 AM

from teh way i read it, it sounds as if only those under 21 would get the dui on a bike.

It was in the same paragraph as the underage drinking, now is only illegal to possess but not illegal for it to be in your system? I think I took it that way because its illegal for those under 21 to even have a .01 alcohol content if driving, and then they used the term 'finally' implying something that wasn't already under way. I only skimmed it so i'm probably mistaken.

11/29/2006 10:19:24 AM

Maybe if the horse was drunk too, otherwise they have self avoidance built in!

As for the rest, they move too slowly to consider them a lethal threat.

[Edited on November 29, 2006 at 10:24 AM. Reason : sp]

11/29/2006 10:24:13 AM

I about got ran over by the bitch on the horse in the brickyard

11/29/2006 10:33:16 AM

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"rediculous"

This has got to stop. Please stop.

11/29/2006 10:40:27 AM

No its not ridiculous. A bike is just as dangerous. If you swerve out into the road and someone swerves to avoid you, causing them to wreck then you are doing just as much damage as a car. I dont think MADD is the one whining here...

11/29/2006 10:46:15 AM

a) It is MADD, as always
and
b) You're retarded if you think it is "just as dangerous"

Dangerous, yes, but obviously less so than a car, which can kill on its own.

11/29/2006 10:47:02 AM

^^ so when im drunk and someone cant pick me up I should walk and get mugged? or better yet they should outlaw walking around in public drunk b/c I might run infront of a car. OH WAIT THATS ALREADY A LAW WHY DONT WE APPLY IT TO SITUATIONS WITH BIKES!!!!! OH WAIT IM SURE THEY DO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

GG!!!!!!!!!!

11/29/2006 10:49:36 AM

We should just go back to not allowing alcohol at all, because that worked so well before hand....

oh wait

11/29/2006 10:53:53 AM

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"wheelchairs"

my dui vehicle of choice

[Edited on November 29, 2006 at 10:57 AM. Reason : :]

[Edited on November 29, 2006 at 10:58 AM. Reason : ;]

11/29/2006 10:56:44 AM

If they're going to increase penalties for infractions then the city should have a better public transportation systems set up downtown on nights and weekends.

11/29/2006 11:10:43 AM

^agreed. I think all revenues from dwi trials and such should go into establishing a pt system for raleigh.

11/29/2006 11:17:40 AM

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"We should just go back to not allowing alcohol at all, because that worked so well before hand...."

yeah seriously. we should just ban alcohol to make sure no one gets drunk and does something stupid to hurt themselves ever again

i hate it when the gov't enacts laws to be everyone's nanny

11/29/2006 1:25:54 PM

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"so when im drunk and someone cant pick me up I should walk and get mugged?"

I wish they had a service where you called a phone number and a vehicle came and picked me up and then dropped me off at the place I live.

Better yet, don't get drunk in a place where there is a high likelihood you are going to get mugged if you don't have a ride home and can't afford said service.

** p.s.- I think it's dumb to have the same punishment for DUIs bikes and cars if that the case. I don't know the NC law because I don't have to...

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"If they're going to increase penalties for infractions then the city should have a better public transportation systems set up downtown on nights and weekends."

Um, taxi anyone? This thread is about Bike DUIs. If I see someone riding a bike home from Glenwood South at 2am on a Friday I might purposely try and hit them for being an absolute douche.

[Edited on November 29, 2006 at 1:46 PM. Reason : x]

11/29/2006 1:43:42 PM

Who goes out for fun on their bike while drunk, seriously. The only time I do that is when it snows.

11/29/2006 2:00:25 PM

I think they should just install a 3rd lane in the road that is 50 feet wide so that we can all drive home drunk in our cars. All the street signs should say "Blurry Road Ahead" and you should be required to have a navigation system that yells at you.

11/29/2006 2:56:36 PM

i wish more people would ride bikes on roads. drivers need to learn to share the fucking road.

11/29/2006 3:07:45 PM

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"Who goes out for fun on their bike while drunk, seriously"

if i go to my friends house 2 miles away and get drunk it would be kinda nice to be able ride my bicycle back. on resedential streed it'd be easy

[Edited on November 29, 2006 at 3:28 PM. Reason : a]

11/29/2006 3:14:46 PM

^are you drunk while typing in this thread...or just an idiot? Haha you tried to correct yourself after I called you out and you still fucked up...I think you answered my question, youre just a plain idiot. No one will take your opinions seriously unless you can present them in a literate manner.

[Edited on November 29, 2006 at 3:36 PM. Reason : .]

11/29/2006 3:19:35 PM

To my mind, the issue is less one of alcohol and more one of certain bicycle nazis always trying to claim that their vehicular rights and responsibilities are exactly the same as those of motorists -- except, of course, when that inconveniences them somehow.

11/29/2006 3:37:54 PM

^Good point. All the rights, with none of the obligations.

11/29/2006 3:55:27 PM

^^I agree. I can't count how many times I've been behind slow ass bikers on two lane roads. Then they'll say stuff such as "a bike is a vehicle, the road is my road to". Of course shortly there after they will come to a traffic light on red and go right on through.

11/29/2006 4:06:14 PM

I say bikes should just start riding in the middle of the lane.

11/29/2006 4:21:33 PM

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"are you drunk while typing in this thread...or just an idiot? Haha you tried to correct yourself after I called you out and you still fucked up...I think you answered my question, youre just a plain idiot. No one will take your opinions seriously unless you can present them in a literate manner. "

you are a fucking retard. can you not understand english. this is a message board not a scholarly forum. so stfu.

i don't even ride a bike i just thinking it is stupid to have the same punishment for someone bicycling 10 mph drunk and driving a 3000 lb 80 mph down the road

[Edited on November 29, 2006 at 4:24 PM. Reason : l]

11/29/2006 4:22:37 PM

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"The Appeals Court upheld his conviction, ruling that one may drive "horses, bicycles, or lawnmowers" as well as Segways and wheelchairs on public roads while drunk, but not scooters."

Who the hell drives any of those things on public roads?

11/29/2006 5:00:19 PM

I do after reading that.

11/29/2006 5:07:16 PM

So if I get pulled over for driving my riding lawnmower down Western Boulevard at 2 in the morning and I am drunk I won't be charged with anything? Not even a traffic violation for, I dunno, driving a riding lawnmower on a public street?

11/29/2006 5:10:35 PM

^^^^i think its you who cant understand english ...a high school graduate should be able to fucking spell residential...its not my fault youre dumb as hell...gtfo

11/29/2006 5:26:28 PM

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"The Appeals Court upheld his conviction, ruling that one may drive "horses, bicycles, or lawnmowers well as Segways and wheelchairs on public roads while drunk, but not scooters"

im attaching a mowing deck to my receiver hitch next time i got to drive my drunk ass back from the bar.

11/29/2006 6:55:00 PM

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"^^I agree. I can't count how many times I've been behind slow ass bikers on two lane roads. Then they'll say stuff such as "a bike is a vehicle, the road is my road to". Of course shortly there after they will come to a traffic light on red and go right on through."

It is a vehicle, but it is also supposed to follow the guidelines of a slow-moving vehicle such as driving as far right in the lanes as possible to allow other cars to pass them.

11/29/2006 9:11:41 PM

11/30/2006 2:21:44 AM

seems MADD would oppose criminalizing DUI from riding a bicycle drunk, but then sometimes fanatics get so wrapped up in shit that they forget their original goal.

11/30/2006 8:20:57 AM

Read what Shivan Bird said.

They aren't talking about bicycles, they're talking about motor scooters than can move up to 40mph! It's a motor vehicle that has enough weight to kill someone either by being struck or if a car hits them it can do enough damage to cause death etc.

A bike moves an average of around 10mph. A drunk person is probably moving about 5mph and easy to dodge. Take the same person who holds a pedel or handle for gas... and well they can easily move max speed without knowing it.

11/30/2006 9:12:06 AM

What about keg registration, which is one of the new laws? Great idea, right?

Hey, now that we have the names of the "party people," why don't we send the courtesy patrol by their houses to, you know, check on them. I mean, with all that alcohol available we want the drinkers to be kept safe, right? We should conduct these inspections for the greater good, of course. And while the courstesy officers are at the homes, they can do a quick inspection for other harmful substances--like marijuana, caffeine, salt, and so on, right?

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"Few men desire liberty; most men wish only for a just master (Sallust)."

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"Government is not reason; it is not eloquence; it is force! Like fire, it is a dangerous servant and a fearful master (attributed to George Washington)."

11/30/2006 12:46:53 PM

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"Hey, now that we have the names of the "party people," why don't we send the courtesy patrol by their houses to, you know, check on them. I mean, with all that alcohol available we want the drinkers to be kept safe, right? We should conduct these inspections for the greater good, of course. And while the courstesy officers are at the homes, they can do a quick inspection for other harmful substances--like marijuana, caffeine, salt, and so on, right"

yeah i think this is complete bullshit and the biggest reason i oppose the keg policy. Also, i disagree with the part of the law where an officer with "reasonable" cause can screen an underage person for alcohol. This is seriously some gestapo bullshit. I thought the purpose of the new bill was to deter people from drinking and driving. These additional clauses almost borderline on a infringment of basic rights and is a severe increase in the power of gov't. I can already see the ALE agents randomly grabbing students at random to give them a breathlyzer as they enter carter finley stadium next fall.

omg 19 year olds drinking its the downfall of society. i am glad i'm 21 and don't have much to worry about. i just feel bad for my underage friends.

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"They aren't talking about bicycles,"

actually it does apply to bicycles also.

http://rdu.news14.com/content/top_stories/?ArID=95340&RegionCookie=30

does any other state have similar laws relating to bicycles. fuck mike easley. since in office he has done nothing but raise taxes and turn NC into a police state.

[Edited on November 30, 2006 at 2:08 PM. Reason : l]

11/30/2006 2:03:40 PM

^this is fuckin rediculous. cant even drive a lawnomer drunk anymore. what is the world coming to

[Edited on November 30, 2006 at 4:10 PM. Reason : http://rdu.news14.com/content/your_news/triangle/?SecID=512&ArID=95280]

11/30/2006 3:50:24 PM

Nor can you spell. It is a cruel, cruel world.

11/30/2006 4:15:17 PM

everyone acts like cabs are easy cool places to be at 2:30 am

no... i'm a big guy and i HATE cabs...
i can imagine a single girl

let drunks find alternate forms of transport other than cars... its fun..

11/30/2006 6:38:21 PM

And guess what? According to a discussion I heard on NPR (so it must be true), Americans actually drank more alcohol than in any other time in history during the early 1800s. (I heard this during a discussion about Edgar Allan Poe possibly dying of rabies.)

So, as a society, we are actually doing better than in years past. Why all the fucking laws?

And another thing: What happens when people start substituting away from the newly regulated keg products to the comparatively unregulated cases and mini-kegs of beer? Will the all-knowing legislature limit the number of cases of beer one can buy? Mini-kegs? Caffeine? And anyone that says this type of thing can't happen is in fucking denial--shit, it's already happening. Where's my America?

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"You can only protect your liberties in this world by protecting the other man's freedom. You can only be free if I am free (Clarence Darrow)."

12/1/2006 1:40:08 AM

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"Nor can you spell. It is a cruel, cruel world."

Lay off him, he's still learning the language. He's a good guy.

12/1/2006 3:41:41 AM

TOEFL anyone?

12/1/2006 7:09:58 AM

Oh, I apologize. Its just that 'rediculous' is particularly grating to me.

In that case, while I'm at it, I should point out to him that in his profile, he may not really have meant to use the 'greater than' sign as a progression. I thought he was bashing Raleigh, lol.

Thanks for the heads up P&B, I'll put him in my "Don't nazi" pile.

12/1/2006 7:37:51 AM

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"everyone acts like cabs are easy cool places to be at 2:30 am no... i'm a big guy and i HATE cabs... i can imagine a single girl "

compared to the alternative, they are.

please tell me, whats so "hard" and "not cool" about cabs? are the cab drivers scary to you or something?

12/1/2006 8:32:54 AM

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"And guess what? According to a discussion I heard on NPR (so it must be true), Americans actually drank more alcohol than in any other time in history during the early 1800s. (I heard this during a discussion about Edgar Allan Poe possibly dying of rabies.) So, as a society, we are actually doing better than in years past. Why all the fucking laws? "

People weren't operating motor vehicles in the early 1800s. Also, the fact that there were a lot of drinkers and drinking in the early 1800s isn't particularly surprising or telling. I don't think anybody's saying our society has a drinking problem; they're saying we have a drunk driving problem.

I do agree that new laws aren't needed. They just need to enforce the old ones. This is a political move...?

12/1/2006 9:34:49 AM

What does keg registration have to do with driving? And trolls shouldn't be fed alcohol or anything else.

12/1/2006 10:47:34 AM

Not that I'm a big fan of keg registration, but it helps you track down who allowed someone to get blasted and then drive off.

I don't think it is anyone's fault except the person who kept drinking (unless forced, of course)
But that is the reason it gets mentioned.

12/1/2006 10:52:54 AM

Well, that's the point, man. Fuck all these tracking methods--whatever they may be. Why don't we just inject a fucking RFID tag in ALL citizens at birth?

I'm telling you, the cops are already doing a lot of fucked up shit. Spotting parties and waiting outside to bust people--and even coming up to the door claiming a noise complaint has been called in, which is often a lie. And the list goes on.

12/1/2006 11:15:59 AM

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"I'm telling you, the cops are already doing a lot of fucked up shit. Spotting parties and waiting outside to bust people"

Out of curiosity, how is that "fucked up"? Isn't that exactly what they should be doing? Watching for someone to break the law?

12/1/2006 11:30:31 AM