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"Edward Wilson, the only witness to his father's suicide and member of the Skull and Bones Society while a student at Yale, is a morally upright young man who values honor and discretion, qualities that help him to be recruited for a career in the newly founded Central Intelligence Agency. While working there, his ideals gradually turn to suspicion influenced by the Cold War paranoia present within the office. Eventually, he becomes an influential veteran operative, while his distrust of everyone around him increases to no end. His dedication to his work does not come without a price though, leading him to sacrifice his ideals and eventually his family."

Cast

Matt Damon
Robert De Niro
Angelina Jolie
Joe Pesci
Alec Baldwin
John Turturro
William Hurt
Billy Crudup


Im looking forward to seeing this



Opens: Dec. 22, 2006

11/29/2006 11:19:11 AM

yeah i saw the preview the other night...it will probably be the movie i go see on christmas day

11/29/2006 12:01:41 PM

[Edited on November 29, 2006 at 12:15 PM. Reason : what a great contribution I made adding info that was in the subject]

11/29/2006 12:05:10 PM

wow, thats the first time ive seen that trailer with sound

damn now i know im going to go and see this, it looks great

11/29/2006 12:34:29 PM

joe pesci looks 90

dude dissapeared after lethal weapon 4 and gone fishin'

11/29/2006 3:18:43 PM

i think some of that is makeup

still, De Niro always brings him along

its nice to see them back on screen together

11/30/2006 1:14:45 PM

is that the music from jarhead?

11/30/2006 4:30:11 PM

the only part of this movie i'm not looking forward to is angelina jolie, otherwise i'm excited.

11/30/2006 4:37:52 PM

I just saw this movie today. I was incredibly disappointed. I didn't know the first thing about it when going in, so I didn't have any expectations. Thank goodness for that because I surely would have been let down. After reading the reviews, it looks like I am in the vast minority in disliking this movie (at least as far as the critics go) but I would seriously give this movie a 3/10 if I was feeling generous. I almost feel like I need to go back and watch it a few more times to pick up on everything that was going on, but I already wasted 3 hours of my life on it, there's no way I'm watching it multiple times. Too long, too confusing, too boring, no action, and no overall point to the movie. Very disappointing.

12/23/2006 12:57:01 AM

12/23/2006 8:41:00 AM

I'm usually attracted to action movies, i thought it might be a nice change to check out an interesting story... It wasn't all that great, it was mostly dull and kinda jumped around a lot so it was hard to understand whats going on at first, and drags on for a lengthy 3 hours.

12/23/2006 8:28:27 PM

i liked it

if you have the attention span of a fly and can't keep up with chronological order...then you'll hate it

12/25/2006 11:24:55 PM

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"can't keep up with chronological order"

How is this a problem for anyone?

12/25/2006 11:39:55 PM

It wasn't memento or anything, but it did jump around a bit. That wasn't my issue.

It was just an incredibly boring and uneventful movie with little to no overall point.

The "big surprise" (and reason for all the jumping around with the timeline) became painfully obvious about halfway through the movie. Then when it's "revealed" you're left wondering what the point was.

I guess I missed it.

12/25/2006 11:43:00 PM

if you're not into a ficticious account of how the CIA was formed and why the Bay of Pigs invasion wasn't a success...then you probably won't like this movie

if you don't like spies and how the work spies do interferes with their family life...then you probably won't like this movie

it's a pretty damn good movie for what it is

but it's by no means an action movie...its a thinking movie

and the "big surprise" was pretty obvious to me from the start...but I guess that's just me

12/26/2006 12:07:51 AM

1/10

12/26/2006 12:22:00 AM

movie looks good to me

i heard that during filming, damon was getting so entrenched in his character's paranoia/secrecy that deniro wanted to keep an eye on him

anyway, anybody know a torrent? holla

12/26/2006 2:45:57 AM

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"if you're not into a ficticious account of how the CIA was formed and why the Bay of Pigs invasion wasn't a success...then you probably won't like this movie"

I guess that's a fair enough assessment. I would also wager that a huge majority of americans fall into this category. Which makes me wonder why they thought they could get so many big name stars with mass appeal, put them in a 3 hour snoozefest with no action or overall point to speak of and have it be a successful movie.

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"if you don't like spies and how the work spies do interferes with their family life...then you probably won't like this movie"

I just don't see how the audience was supposed to care even a little bit about how it affected his family. Not when the onscreen time spent developing his relationship was less than 5 minutes. Hell, the real-time amount of time appeared to be less than 3 months. To me, the story wasn't so much how the job affected his family life as it was about how some poor guy got railroaded into being in a family that he had no interest in having in the first place.

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"it's a pretty damn good movie for what it is"

I just don't see it. They spent about half an hour absolutely RUSHING damon's character into the main part of the movie. Are we as viewers supposed to actually believe that a 22 year old guy could practically single handedly be handed the keys running an entire World War? There was absolutely no backstory or reason given for why he was selected for the Skulls (except for his father was a traitor, which I would think would work against him) There was even less reason given for why some kid straight out of school (or was he still in school? it was impossible to tell) was set up in a meeting with an Army General who for absolutely no given reason assigns him to run what appears to be the entire american pre-official-engagement war effort.

All throughout the movie it felt like it tried to do too much and ended up half-assing it all. When I think back on it, I actually would have been interested in many of the things I just discussed, but not nearly enough time was spent on the little details that would have made it work. I would imagine this movie was probably adapted from a book that went into much greater detail. And honestly I would probably be interested in reading that book. Maybe this movie would have worked better as a miniseries, where it could have taken the time to properly do all the things it tried to do in 3 hours. I dunno, but it surely didn't work for me. And I don't think that was because I wasn't in the target audience. Because the thought of this:

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"but it's by no means an action movie...its a thinking movie"

doesn't bother me in the slightest.

12/26/2006 9:41:35 AM

I'm not sure how I feel about this movie.

I didn't particularly like it, nor did I particularly dislike it.

12/26/2006 11:34:19 AM

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"I'm not sure how I feel about this movie. I didn't particularly like it, nor did I particularly dislike it."

Agreed. I'd also throw out that I found the movie interesting, though can't explain why and wouldn't buy it on DVD.

12/26/2006 12:39:27 PM

im going to see it in a few hours

perhaps i should not have read this thread

given the premise, i cant imagine how i would not find this interesting

12/26/2006 12:59:45 PM

just got done seeing this boring, depressing movie...I would not recommend anyone to see this movie except people with a huge fascination of the CIA.

I like "spy" type movies, and I did think that a movie labelled as being the fictional beginnings of the CIA would be entertaining, especially with the big name talent that is involved.

I was, however, bored throughout the movie, I found Matt Damon's character to be pretty unlikeable (even though I know that this is part of the movie), I was waiting for the last 45+ minutes of the movie for it to wrap up and find a conclusion, and once the conclusion came I wasnt pleased with the outcome.

Overall, I came away from the movie depressed and bored. I kept up with the storyline from beginning to end, so my reason for disliking the movie wasnt due to a lack of knowing what was going on, it was more of a feeling that I wasnt pleased with the events that occurred in the movie. I would have much rather taken my $6 to watch Rocky Balboa or some other movie that wasnt as long and boring.

The only good things about the movie to me was Matt Damon's acting job - he portrayed his character VERY well, Angelina Jolie's hotness factor during the first half of the movie, and the presence of Robert DeNiro and Joe Pesci

12/26/2006 7:41:15 PM

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" I was, however, bored throughout the movie, I found Matt Damon's character to be pretty unlikeable"

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" The only good things about the movie to me was Matt Damon's acting job "

12/26/2006 8:12:14 PM

Those quotes make perfect sense to me.

12/26/2006 8:24:01 PM

I think matt damon overedid it on the unmoving disposition

12/26/2006 8:39:03 PM

i thought it was funny how matt damon never aged

but everyone else did

and DeNiro even began disappearing

12/26/2006 8:54:26 PM

^^^^ you left this part of what I said out:

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"(even though I know that this is part of the movie)"

his character was unlikeable, but that is probably what he and De Niro were going for. I think he did a good job portraying that sort of character, if that makes better sense

12/26/2006 10:36:40 PM

I thought it was great

I was captivated from start to finish and was certainly up to the challenge of keeping up with the changes in time and subplots

great film

12/26/2006 11:00:23 PM

his character was likeable

i liked him

but i guess i'm the only one who liked the movie

you know who wasn't likeable? his buddy Hayes...that guy was slimy

but Damon's character was a man of principles, who struggled with trying to stand by those principles in spite of what life wanted to throw at him

The best part of the movie was when he's talking to Joe Pesci and says "We have the United States of America. The rest of you are just visiting."

12/26/2006 11:06:34 PM

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"There was even less reason given for why some kid straight out of school (or was he still in school? it was impossible to tell) was set up in a meeting with an Army General who for absolutely no given reason assigns him to run what appears to be the entire american pre-official-engagement war effort."

i took their interest in him stemming from his outting of the prof AND because he didn't have any record of being in intelligence.

12/26/2006 11:32:49 PM

I kind of admire Wilson's (Damon's character) ability to stick to his beliefs and job so well, but some of the ways that he went about doing so coupled with the fact that he didnt talk/joke/show emotion made it hard for me to like him

12/27/2006 8:23:34 AM

^that's the beauty of it all though

that's why he was good at it, that's why nothing got to him and why he could keep on keeping on with what he was doing

12/27/2006 8:30:39 AM

not to put 2 and 2 together or anything

but the one guy who loves this movie

is the one guy who loved Jay Davis.

12/27/2006 8:43:07 AM

haha

12/27/2006 10:26:06 AM

this is just one of those things that nobody gets

its actually kind of sad

12/27/2006 4:25:50 PM

^ no actually the movie just isn't good

12/27/2006 5:14:59 PM

I thought it was good but I like that type of movie and could see how people were disinterested

I also did not like the casting choice of Angelina Jolie, she didn't really fit that persona and was obviously just a big name to get people to go see it

12/27/2006 8:51:01 PM

I enjoyed it. The person I saw it with was bored the whole time. I can see why a lot of people dont like it, but I thought it was worth the time I spent watching it.

12/27/2006 9:01:16 PM

i still want to go and see it

probably wait for the $1.50

[Edited on December 28, 2006 at 10:55 AM. Reason : >.<]

12/28/2006 10:54:51 AM

http://www.pirvox.com/?details=205

12/30/2006 3:18:33 PM

didn't read the thread, but im sure most of it was comments about how much it sucked.

i, however, really like this movie

12/30/2006 5:05:01 PM

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"I enjoyed it. The person I saw it with was bored the whole time. I can see why a lot of people dont like it, but I thought it was worth the time I spent watching it."

Yeah, it was better than when I went to see Ricky Bobby. That is, I managed to sit through this whole movie and not get mad about the $7 it cost me.

It was a battle though to keep my gf awake, and it hilarious how many other people fell asleep.

when pesci dropped the "at least the nigger have their music" line i looked over at the 5 black people in the theater expecting a gasp, but it was all snores. they were all asleep.

12/30/2006 10:56:42 PM

On a scale from 1 to 10, this movie sucked my balls.

12/30/2006 11:25:02 PM

At least Angelina Jolie raped Matt Damon

12/31/2006 12:21:16 AM

^^^hahahahaha

12/31/2006 3:48:26 AM

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" when pesci dropped the "at least the nigger have their music" line i looked over at the 5 black people in the theater expecting a gasp, but it was all snores. they were all asleep."

i heard a gasp or two (saw it at crossroads). i was thinking "welcome to the 50s dumbasses."

check that. the gasps were from when he said "All of you are just visiting"

[Edited on December 31, 2006 at 11:38 PM. Reason : e]

12/31/2006 11:37:16 PM

if you enjoy using your brain and thinking about what was going on in the world during the time of the movie and how it all ties in to said movie, it was great!

if you want mindless entertainment have a hand party instead.

1/1/2007 6:02:25 PM