Commitment Announcements Times

Joe McKnight No. 2 11 a.m. CT LSU, USC, Ole Miss
Marvin Austin No. 7 Noon ET FSU, UNC, USC
Chad Jones No. 14 2 p.m. CT LSU, Florida, FSU
Dwight Jones No. 22 10 a.m. ET UNC, Clemson, Tennessee
Jerimy Finch No. 37 7:30 a.m. ET Indiana, Florida, Michigan
Deonte Thompson No. 49 7, 3:30 p.m. ET Florida, Miami, OSU, USC
Gerald Jones No. 87 1 p.m. CT Tennessee, Texas Tech, OK St.
Brandon Gibson No. 100 11 a.m. CT Alabama, Auburn
Ahmad Paige Rivals250 10 a.m. CT Tennessee, USC, Florida
Brandon Paul Rivals250 11:30 a.m. ET FSU, Auburn, Clemson, Tennessee
Broderick Green Rivals250 12:25 p.m. CT USC, Penn St., Ohio St.
Josh Bynes Rivals250 10 a.m. ET Auburn, Louisville
Kourtnei Brown Rivals250 8 a.m. ET Alabama, Clemson, UNC
Omar Bolden NR 1 p.m. PT Oregon St., ASU, USC
Reggie Dunn NR 6:30 p.m. PT Arizona, Oregon St.
Travis Lewis NR TBA Nebraska, Oklahoma
Patrick Grant NR 10 a.m. ET Louisville, USF, Iowa

Here are the top 50 rankings as of today (rivals):
School Total 5-star 4-star 3-star ave-star total points
1 Florida 24 4 14 6 3.92 2,817
2 Tennessee 31 5 10 15 3.61 2,662
3 Texas 24 2 16 5 3.79 2,562
4 LSU 26 1 18 7 3.77 2,518
5 Southern Cal 16 5 10 1 4.25 2,450
6 Notre Dame 20 1 14 4 3.75 2,192
7 South Carolina 31 1 14 13 3.42 2,190
8 Georgia 23 0 12 10 3.48 1,914
9 Auburn 24 0 11 13 3.46 1,887
10 Nebraska 28 0 11 16 3.36 1,804
11 Oregon 27 0 12 12 3.33 1,783
12 Michigan 20 2 5 12 3.40 1,750
13 Ohio State 15 0 12 3 3.80 1,577
14 Alabama 21 0 8 10 3.24 1,532
15 Miami-FL 18 1 8 7 3.44 1,517
16 Illinois 19 2 5 10 3.37 1,511
17 Clemson 23 0 7 13 3.17 1,493
18 Ole Miss 25 1 6 14 3.16 1,458
19 Georgia Tech 20 0 8 10 3.30 1,453
20 Virginia 25 0 7 12 3.04 1,335
21 Oklahoma 16 1 6 8 3.44 1,323
22 California 23 0 4 17 3.09 1,312
23 Penn State 21 0 8 8 3.14 1,305
24 Oklahoma State 23 0 5 16 3.13 1,258
25 West Virginia 26 1 3 15 2.92 1,254
26 Pittsburgh 23 0 6 12 3.04 1,228
27 Virginia Tech 26 1 2 15 2.85 1,199
28 Arkansas 27 0 4 17 2.93 1,083
29 Colorado 27 1 2 14 2.78 1,081
30 Iowa 21 0 4 11 2.90 1,060
31 Wisconsin 17 1 3 10 3.12 1,059
32 Maryland 24 1 3 13 2.92 1,024
33 UCLA 11 0 7 4 3.64 1,017
34 Rutgers 22 0 3 15 2.95 992
35 Washington 24 0 3 16 2.92 982
36 North Carolina 19 1 3 10 3.00 980
37 Missouri 25 0 4 15 2.92 975
38 Michigan State 23 0 4 12 2.87 963
39 Florida State 14 0 5 7 3.21 939
40 Arizona 17 0 4 10 3.06 895
41 Texas A&M 18 0 4 11 3.06 829
42 Kansas State 31 0 3 14 2.65 815
43 Louisville 16 1 2 10 3.06 801
44 Boston College 18 0 2 11 2.83 756
45 Mississippi State 32 0 3 12 2.56 653
46 Syracuse 26 0 1 12 2.54 603
47 Texas Tech 27 0 1 18 2.74 585
48 Arizona State 20 0 1 11 2.65 569
49 NC State 24 0 2 11 2.63 541
50 Minnesota 22 0 1 11 2.59 515

2/6/2007 5:48:02 PM

Rivals has a SEC bias. They even admit it b/c the most premium subscriptions come from that conference. There really isn't a good service out there. From what I can tell ESPN Insider has the best and least biased.

2/6/2007 5:52:29 PM

Quote :

"From what I can tell ESPN Insider has the best and least biased."

, funny

Lemming, nuff said

2/6/2007 5:55:00 PM

i've never had espn insider, but it's my impression that they barely cover recruiting. am i wrong here?

2/6/2007 5:56:53 PM

that one ESPN list someone posted was retarded, had Tennessee at something stupid like 24th, havent even looked at their shit again after that. I could see them being ranked somewhere in the top 5 or maybe even top 10, but 24 is retarded with what they have coming in.


^^ Yeah, I like Lemming too

[Edited on February 6, 2007 at 5:57 PM. Reason : d]

2/6/2007 5:56:57 PM

^ I'll try and get a link.. it's a ratings index. I didn't pay attention to the class rankings but rather the individual index numbers..

[Edited on February 6, 2007 at 5:58 PM. Reason : but you're probably not thinking of the same thing]

2/6/2007 5:57:03 PM

Lemming has 6 SEC schools in the top 10 too

http://www.sportsline.com/collegefootball/story/9978843

[Edited on February 6, 2007 at 5:59 PM. Reason : d]

2/6/2007 5:58:50 PM

I'm not saying that Rivals is wrong in this case, just that the stupid * ratings change pending on what schools offer (and even sometimes when a player decides on a school) and not based on the players talent.

** but back on topic..

[Edited on February 6, 2007 at 6:01 PM. Reason : Did the 2nd guy choose UNC? I hope not..]

2/6/2007 6:00:54 PM

everything i have read has Austin going to FSU

2/6/2007 6:03:01 PM

Pretty good that we fired our coach and still made top 50....

Good sign for O'Brien that he didn't lose some talent Chuck had already gotten to sign.

2/6/2007 6:08:48 PM

everything ive seen has austin going to unc.


our only surprise of the day will be whether or not jon hannah sticks with the pack or signs with F$U.

2/6/2007 6:10:28 PM

^ I hope not, Austin is a fucking beast

2/6/2007 7:00:09 PM

austin is going to unc per both fsu and unc sites


but who knows

2/6/2007 7:05:51 PM

Dwight Jones has said that Clemson is out, so its down to Tennessee and the shitheads

2/6/2007 11:24:25 PM

Damn, I thought Dwight Jones said he'd honor his commitment even after the coaching change. Guess he opened up his recruiting again huh.

2/6/2007 11:45:29 PM

hes been weird... he says he is still going to unc, but then will say something like "clemson, tennessee and unc are all even"

well, take clemson out now

2/6/2007 11:51:33 PM

I think he's gonna sign with tennesee. He probably won't qualified anyway.

2/7/2007 1:07:20 AM

yeah, I think he is going to prep school no matter where he goes

2/7/2007 1:09:27 AM

marvin austin probably to UNC, kourtnei brown probably to clemson.

2/7/2007 1:13:11 AM

what do you think about Paige?

2/7/2007 1:29:23 AM

^I don't know enough about him to make any prediction.

2/7/2007 1:41:31 AM

and i'm goingn to bed

2/7/2007 2:08:23 AM

Apparently, Paige just committed to Tennessee.

2/7/2007 9:58:55 AM

^ yup... wasnt around a computer until now...


Paige to Tennessee
Austin to UNC
Dwight Jones to UNC
Greg Little switched from ND to UNC... thats 6 of the top 100 at UNC now, I told you Butch Davis is the fucking man when it comes to recruiting



[Edited on February 7, 2007 at 1:56 PM. Reason : d]

2/7/2007 1:39:50 PM

have a bad feeling that Gerald Jones is going to switch to Texas Tech from Tennessee... he is a fucking beast

2/7/2007 1:51:47 PM

^^yea, I remember the talent Butch Davis had when he was at Miami. It's like a NFL team there. I read somewhere that one year, he had Clinton Portis, Willis McGahee, and Frank Gore as his RBs.

2/7/2007 1:55:34 PM

If it translates to on field performance UNC is going to be really, really good for awhile here. I'm not totally convinced Davis moves on quickly from there either. Really, having UNC good only helps State. I'd love to build a real football rivalry where both teams are pretty good. It's like the stadium arms race. UNC upgraded and we were all but forced to do the same...

2/7/2007 1:56:13 PM

I've always thought he was going to stay at UNC for a while, its not like he didnt get offers from bigger programs, so he must really want to be there. And a lot of people thought that he could just recruit like crazy because it was Miami, but after just a few months he is already bringing in really impressive results at CH


and USC has passed UT for second place

[Edited on February 7, 2007 at 1:59 PM. Reason : d]

2/7/2007 1:57:53 PM

Lemming gets info wrong more frequently than rivals.

for example

Logan Gray
DT 6-2 185 4.40 Columbia Rock Bridge, MO Georgia

currently on their top 100 page.

2/7/2007 2:10:42 PM

Fuck Joe McKnight... that is all...

2/7/2007 2:11:35 PM

whats up with the rubber bands on Jay Smith's arms

2/7/2007 2:18:53 PM

Well, we are quickly becoming the worst football school in the ACC.

2/7/2007 2:44:57 PM

hahaha, na, you got Duke and .... well, you got Duke

2/7/2007 2:46:45 PM

recruiting rankings are overrated after you get out of the top 7-8 teams who just stockpile 5-4 star guys. the rating services really have no ability to rate the thousands of football players across the country accurately. its not like basketball where everyone can see the top players play high school, camps, aau, etc...

nc state wouldnt recruit like that if you had jesus himself recruiting for us. we've had some very highly rated classes in the past, and where did it get us? solid coaching in college can easily make up talent differences....just look at wake forest.

for all of those nutting themselves over unc's class, remember this....yes your class looks very good right now...just like the past 4-5 you've pulled in. will they qualify? will they stay out of trouble? can they stay qualified? they havent yet. maybe butch's guys are different. we will see.

worry about the w's and l's. not the recruiting.

2/7/2007 2:54:37 PM

well true for the most part, but I would rather get a lot of great talent AND have good coaching (USC, Florida) than just have good coaching. And I dont know if UNC has had a class like this the last few years.


And thank god Gerald Jones stuck with Tennessee...

2/7/2007 2:57:13 PM

I really don't get it. Do the facilities and fan supports really not attract recruits?? What about that O'brien is considered the best coaching change of the off season. Why doesn't this attract guys?

2/7/2007 2:59:08 PM

Speaking as a relative "outsider" to North Carolina, I would say that most people view UNC as a "sexier" school and Davis is definitely a sexier coach than OBrien, especially when most of these guys were just getting into football when Davis was getting everyone at Miami and with Carolina's exposure due to bball. Not saying that I agree with that, just saying thats the viewpoint to people from outside of NC.


[no homo]

[Edited on February 7, 2007 at 3:03 PM. Reason : d]

2/7/2007 3:03:30 PM

Thanks for the perspective and I don't agree either. Even recruits jump on the damn bandwagon.

2/7/2007 3:04:35 PM

he was a Marine, and they are thugs...that'll probably do it

2/7/2007 3:05:21 PM

and unless I am forgetting someone, O'Brien hasnt really produced many skill position players for the NFL, mainly a bunch of grunts (O-Line). Once again, not saying that is bad or wrong, just saying that to the average QB/RB/WR/CB Davis probably looks better than O'Brien

2/7/2007 3:09:33 PM

Butch certainly cleaned up today, congrats for that. However, isn't one of the two all but headed to prep school in Jones or Austin? Also, To Jaybee, who states he isn't familiar with UNC athletes. Well, their school loves to proclaim excellence on the field/court, but more obnoxiously, in the classroom, the so called "carolina way" which for people with humility, translates to a student athlete as well as scholar, which is a load of crap, and this year's haul for butch proves it. Clemson laid off of a few guys who inked with UNC because they were scared of grades, so if clemson is scared, shouldn't almighty UNC be scared? ChiefButch says no. It's no secret that not 100% of athletes come to school for the education over the sport, but you will have a hard time convincing a UNC alum that their academics for athletes are just like everyone else's, a joke.

Quote :

"mainly a bunch of grunts (O-Line). "

I can assure you, that any state fan with any knowledge, would love to get several future NFL O lineman in Raleigh ASAP (some LB's wouldn't hurt either). I'll take TOB's evaluation of an OL over any recruting website or college coach in the country.

[Edited on February 7, 2007 at 3:14 PM. Reason : .]

2/7/2007 3:11:46 PM

im not trying to be a hater but here is what ive been hearing...


yes, unc has put together a very nice class on paper, with some studs in it that the rest of this post will not concern...searcy, paulus, austin and craddock especially...

but there are A LOT of the remaining guys in their class that while highly rated, have huge question marks...

jones..will he ever qualify? JUCO?

powell...will he ever qualify? prep?

little...he thinks he is a WR, but he isnt..hands like stone...his rating is high bc he is an athlete...we wanted him at LB...he doesnt want to play any other position...can they get him to change?

houston...he thinks he is a RB, but he isnt...runs like derek morris..his rating is high bc he is an athlete..we wanted him to play DT...he wants to play RB...can they get him to change?

etc....there are few more, but you get the point...Bunting liked to play the game of telling guys whatever they needed to hear to get them in school. Butch came in too late to recruit a lot of other guys instead..will these guys be happy playing D? (bc thats where butch will move them) it didnt sound like it in their interviews.

those guys will have a huge effect on their class down the road..if they all get in and see the big picture, they could be pretty good.

2/7/2007 3:15:18 PM

^^ I never said otherwise, just stating what I think many of the recruits felt... I agree, O-line is the key to a dominating team




and I figured out why ESPN's rankings are so weird... they dont count any Juco or Prep players.

[Edited on February 7, 2007 at 3:27 PM. Reason : d]

2/7/2007 3:16:01 PM

does anyone really care? how many blue chippers did Boise State have? i guess all UNC has to do now is roll their helmets on the field and they'll go undefeated...that blows. too bad a team's record is in direct correlation to their recriting class rank

[Edited on February 7, 2007 at 3:32 PM. Reason : .]

2/7/2007 3:31:51 PM

no one said that... but once again, I would rather have great coaching AND great talent instead of just great coaching



wow, whats this shit that ESPN is talking about with Zook and the NY Times??? sounds fucked up

[Edited on February 7, 2007 at 3:34 PM. Reason : d]

2/7/2007 3:34:09 PM

on the clemson board they are talking about how clemson removing their offer to dwight jones, may have not been entirely about grades, but rather about the welcome party that was planned by fans for jones when he took his official. the removal could possibly be just as much about avoiding violations as it is about grades.

2/7/2007 3:36:38 PM

akase,
Does the recruit actually signing an LOI, in this case Jones, with said school have any bearing as to possible reprecussions with the NCAA. In the NCAA's eyes, you commit a violation, you go down (on paper, of course we all know big schools get off), a la duke for buying DT a suit in the early 70s and having him sign with us. Maybe Clemson figures teh NCAA will put this investigation on the backburner since the kid ended up in Smurfland.

Goalie,
No one is saying a team full fo two star recruits can't do well, in this case boise st. But seriously, give me any one of these team's recruits: texas, florida, USC, and yes OU, and you take Boise's and we will play each other for ten years straight (on a neutral field if need be, and we will see who wins the majority). Dont try and convince anyone the exception is the rule because I can list 50 other schools to your one or two that have all two stars who see one bowl game every 5 seasons

[Edited on February 7, 2007 at 4:02 PM. Reason : .]

2/7/2007 3:58:15 PM

Final Top 10

1 Florida 27 4 16 7 3.89 2,959
2 Southern Cal 18 6 10 2 4.22 2,761
3 Tennessee 32 5 11 15 3.63 2,726
4 LSU 25 2 18 5 3.88 2,695
5 Texas 24 2 16 5 3.79 2,562
6 South Carolina 31 1 14 13 3.42 2,190
7 Auburn 30 0 13 15 3.30 2,006
8 Notre Dame 18 1 12 4 3.72 1,932
9 Georgia 23 0 12 10 3.48 1,895
10 Alabama 25 0 10 12 3.28 1,789


Other notables:
15 Miami
16 Ohio State
17 UNC
19 FSU (lowest for them in a long time)
20 GT
21 Clemson
25 Virginia
29 VT
34 Maryland
45 BC
50 NC State
76 Duke
83 WF

2/7/2007 6:18:40 PM

I thought espn has tennessee sitting at #7

and USC switched with UF, which I think sounds right with USC signing the top 3 overall players

[Edited on February 7, 2007 at 6:24 PM. Reason : asdf]

2/7/2007 6:24:03 PM

not going by ESPN, their rankings are a joke. They dont include Juco or Prep school players, and they have some weird player rankings that are way off from what every other source has, like Jimmy Clausen at #9

^USC got the top 3 only according to ESPN, no one else has them the top 3

[Edited on February 7, 2007 at 6:30 PM. Reason : d]

2/7/2007 6:25:54 PM