wolfAApack All American 9980 Posts user info edit post |
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fqPBJ_6y_5A
Enjoy 3/16/2007 12:11:53 PM |
TreeTwista10 minisoldr 148450 Posts user info edit post |
3/16/2007 12:13:48 PM |
hunterb2003 All American 14423 Posts user info edit post |
god he acted like a faggot walked up to the VCU point gaurd and bumping him while talking shit
i wished dude would have stuck him in the jaw
oh well no matter
hope they had a good flight back..... not 3/16/2007 12:15:00 PM |
beergolftile All American 9030 Posts user info edit post |
hahaha, reminds of that batter who faked getting beaned. 3/16/2007 1:18:17 PM |
ParksNrec All American 8742 Posts user info edit post |
I still want to know what is going on in that picture ^^^ 3/16/2007 1:27:01 PM |
uNC SUcks All American 6270 Posts user info edit post |
oh my god I laughed so hard (didn't see the game yesterday). that was absolutely pathetic. 3/16/2007 1:34:43 PM |
Aristotle Suspended 2231 Posts user info edit post |
his foot was clearly stepped on 3/16/2007 1:36:03 PM |
wolfAApack All American 9980 Posts user info edit post |
he clearly made himself look like a douche
nobody can even try to defend that garbage. Its a flop at its finest. Paulus is a goober.
[Edited on March 16, 2007 at 1:38 PM. Reason : ] 3/16/2007 1:37:22 PM |
hunterb2003 All American 14423 Posts user info edit post |
he has clearly been a douche since he put on a Duke uniform 3/16/2007 1:38:12 PM |
ParksNrec All American 8742 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "his foot was clearly stepped on" |
I know!! Whenever someone steps on my foot I fall to the ground too!!3/16/2007 1:38:37 PM |
pwrstrkdf250 Suspended 60006 Posts user info edit post |
I hate Duke less than UNC
but this is the shit that makes me hate Duke plenty 3/16/2007 1:39:11 PM |
TreeTwista10 minisoldr 148450 Posts user info edit post |
heres a picture just prior to the first
captions basically say that paulus is upset about losing / missing the final shot (obviously)
course it looks to me like paulus has been taking shots and kegstands all night and mcroberts has to make sure he doesnt try to get behind the wheel or something lol] 3/16/2007 1:40:28 PM |
ParksNrec All American 8742 Posts user info edit post |
alright, that helps a bit, I just couldn't understand why he was just flopping around like dead weight. 3/16/2007 1:41:54 PM |
Aristotle Suspended 2231 Posts user info edit post |
try getting your foot stepped on while backpeddling. when you cant take that foot a step back you either all yourself to fall or risk hurting yourself really bad 3/16/2007 1:42:50 PM |
ParksNrec All American 8742 Posts user info edit post |
I thought he was supposed to be standing there taking the charge, you can't take a charge and walk backwards at the same time.
Not to mention he CLEARLY starts falling before his foot gets stepped on.
[Edited on March 16, 2007 at 1:44 PM. Reason : ] 3/16/2007 1:43:35 PM |
TreeTwista10 minisoldr 148450 Posts user info edit post |
here's the whole slideshow where i got those 2 pics
http://www.charlotte.com/images/sports/dukevcu0315/ 3/16/2007 1:44:43 PM |
Aristotle Suspended 2231 Posts user info edit post |
well ya he started fading thats natural when youre bracing to be ran over so he could completly fall if there was any contact to get the charge. but once it was time to pull his foot back to keep the balance from fading his foot was already stepped on so he had no choice but to finish falling.
[Edited on March 16, 2007 at 2:07 PM. Reason : everybody acts. its hard to actually get knocked over by a guy driving unless its a really huge guy] 3/16/2007 2:04:47 PM |
wolfAApack All American 9980 Posts user info edit post |
stfu 3/16/2007 2:06:22 PM |
uNC SUcks All American 6270 Posts user info edit post |
you don't fall like that if your foot gets stepped on. He started falling before there was any contact. 3/16/2007 2:10:31 PM |
State409c Suspended 19558 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "well ya he started fading thats natural when youre bracing to be ran over" |
What fucking handicapped infirmary did you learn to play basketball in?
I lean forward if I am about to get plowed.3/16/2007 2:12:50 PM |
State409c Suspended 19558 Posts user info edit post |
Furthermore
YOU DON'T FUCKING NOT MOVE YOUR OTHER FOOT THAT ISN'T BEING STEPPED ON WHEN YOU ARE FALLING OVER
WOULD SOMEONE REVOKE THIS ASS PIRATES RIGHT TO POST?
FUC 3/16/2007 2:14:11 PM |
ParksNrec All American 8742 Posts user info edit post |
He obviously had decided to flop before his foot was stepped on and was past the point of catching himself before his foot was stepped on. He wasn't leaning back in anticipation of being hit, he was flopping. Quit being a fucking homer and just admit it. 3/16/2007 2:14:16 PM |
Aristotle Suspended 2231 Posts user info edit post |
not if youre trying to draw a charge you don't. you wanna be ready to fall on contact because if you don't fall it will likely be a foul on you.
^well ya he was gonna "flop" if there was contact which is what everybody does. he "went weightless" and couldn't catch himself once his foot got stepped on. all he wouldve done is brought his foot back under his body
[Edited on March 16, 2007 at 2:16 PM. Reason : clearly] 3/16/2007 2:14:38 PM |
synapse play so hard 60939 Posts user info edit post |
ok this is genius http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fYOgC2Qbqh4&mode=related&search=
and there is some strange of-mice-and-men thing going on here
heres a JJ flop http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nqBtrVXyDdM
another classic dook flop http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kQGYjHZQBAk
[Edited on March 16, 2007 at 2:18 PM. Reason : ] 3/16/2007 2:15:35 PM |
superchevy All American 20874 Posts user info edit post |
i can't stop laughing at that picture, and i don't know why... it's like i have the giggles when i'm high, but i'm not high.
[Edited on March 16, 2007 at 2:17 PM. Reason : ] 3/16/2007 2:15:52 PM |
uNC SUcks All American 6270 Posts user info edit post |
^^^wrong, you brace yourself to take a charge. If not, you begin to move and get called for blocking.
[Edited on March 16, 2007 at 2:17 PM. Reason : .]
[Edited on March 16, 2007 at 2:17 PM. Reason : .] 3/16/2007 2:16:44 PM |
synapse play so hard 60939 Posts user info edit post |
DONT FEED THE TROLLS
Quote : | "B. The Duke Flop.
Perhaps the biggest reason for the disparity in foul totals is the outrageous manner in which game officials apply the ever-subjective offensive foul rule. You know the scenario: An opposing player blows by a slower Duke defender while being closely guarded thirty feet from the basket. As the player races to the hoop for a lay-up, another Duke player jumps into his path, often while the offensive player is in the air, deliberately causing a dangerous collision near the basket. The late arriving defender falls over backward, arms flailing, with a melodramatic shriek. As sure as the sun sets in the West, one of the three game referees will run to the scene, often from far out of position, hand clasped behind his head, whistle sounding loudly, all with Krzyzewski's pumping fist signaling his approval in the background. Of course, when the opposition attempts to return the favor, the call is just as surely a block or, at best, a no call.
This defensive 'play' is in all ways analogous to a baseball player stepping in front of a pitch in a deliberate effort to get a free pass to first base by being plunked. The only difference is that the basketball flop gives the added bonus of bringing an opposing player 1/5 of the way to disqualification.
While many times the Duke player accomplishes his goal of creating a violent collision, any given game brings several additional defensive 'plays' in which a Duke defender drops to the floor when his opponent so much as breathes on him. The Duke team is so thoroughly trained to resort to this regularly rewarded tactic that it is common so see them fall anywhere on the court - near the basket, at mid-court, in the backcourt, sometimes while the offensive player is simply dribbling laterally, making no effort to move towards the basket. In 2005, during the closing seconds of its last loss to Maryland, for instance, a Duke defender actually flopped beneath Maryland's defensive goal on an inbound play.
Taking the tradition to new levels, JJ Redick recently debuted a new version: the offensive flop. It was unveiled early in this seasons first UNC game as JJ went up for a mid-range jumpshot, which he made. After releasing the ball, JJ jerked his body as if overtaken by a violent seizure and plopped loudly onto the floor. Replays showed no contact, other than perhaps a grazing of the defenders leg, which JJ initiated as he straddled his legs in an effort to 'draw the foul.' Again, in his home loss of senior night, JJ fell to the floor for no apparent reason after launching a baseline three early in the game. Fortunately, the referees did not take the bait on either occasion, but, rest assured, future Dukies will perfect the ploy with greater results.
This patented 'Duke flop' is without doubt the most maddening innovation of the Coach K era, (with his players' tendency to slap the floor at midcourt in a purported show of defensive solidarity running a close second). Over the course of an average game, the Duke opponent sees five to six baskets, or ten to twelve points (fifteen to eighteen if we count the three-point play that should have resulted), erased by this grossly one-sided call. Duke, meanwhile, receives additional five to six free throws as opponents are regularly whistled for blocks. Year after year, legendary athletes, from Jordan to Bias to Duncan to Carter, are unfairly handicapped by the spectrum of inferior Duke players jumping into their paths and flopping backwards, even if contact is avoided. Indeed, it is not unusual for slow-motion replays to show Duke defenders beginning their staged falls, before, occasionally in the total absence of, actual contact.
Much to the chagrin of flop-leader Shane Battier, it was because of this infuriating nonsense that the NBA actually amended its rules to prohibit offensive fouls from being called as the result of charges within five feet of the basket. And for great reason: games should not turn on the basis of inferior athletes deliberately diving into an opposing player's path in order to manufacture an offensive foul call. This is not basketball. It breaks the flow of any game, angers fans, and endangers athletes. In a broader sense, it perverts the game by shaving points from opposing teams' scores while simultaneously saddling their players with fouls that should never be charged.
The biggest absurdity is that this precise tactic is supposed to be a 'point of emphasis' for NCAA officials. Specifically, point of emphasis no. 2, taken directly from the NCAA rulebook for 2003-04, reads as follows:
The committee is also concerned with the defensive player who fails to attain legal guarding position and, consequently, impedes or blocks the progress of an offensive player going to the basket. When a defensive player attempts to draw a charge, but establishes defensive position late, he shall be penalized for a block.
Suffice it to say, most officials missed this instruction.
At its basic core, the Duke flop is simply a close cousin of a cheap, dirty play to which some third rate teams once resorted in the final seconds of lost games. Usually reserved for high school games played before less sophisticated referees, some of us saw it in the 1985 title game as Villanova was about to upset Georgetown. After a timeout, with only seconds remaining, the players returned to the floor. As the referee handed the ball over to be inbounded, a Georgetown player suddenly wrapped both arms around his opponent and fell over backwards, pulling the Villanova player on top of him. The hope was for a referee to miss the takedown, yet call a foul after hearing the players thump the floor and seeing the Nova player atop of the Georgetown player. Billy Packer commented on the ruse during a replay and put it well by saying, 'Its really just a dirty play. Its one thing to play hard. Its another thing to play dirty.'
Isnt the Duke flop the same play in principle and spirit? Directly initiating a collision with an opponent by jumping into his path and initiating contact against the opponents will? As Packer stated well, playing hard is one thing and theres no question that Duke players do play hard but playing dirty is quite another. The Duke flop is, plain and simple, a dirty play for which Duke is rightly despised." |
courtesy of: http://www.truthaboutduke.com/3/16/2007 2:25:41 PM |
Sleik All American 11177 Posts user info edit post |
I once ref'd a rec league, the director of the league gave to this day the best advice regarding charges:
Watch the defensive player's knees. If he buckles his knees in an effort to look like he's been charged, blow the whistle... call a block. ONLY call a charge if the offensive player either deliberately extends a body part or is out of control and initiates contact. If the offensive player initiates contact but was not going fast enough to knock over the defender (i.e., a fairly small player colliding with someone of an equal or larger frame), and the defender falls anyway, it's a no call - let 'em play.
More refs could use this advice. 3/16/2007 11:26:59 PM |
jcoop Veteran 258 Posts user info edit post |
^that really is good advice. I hate it when refs pay no attention to who initiates the contact and also to player control...if a player is out of control they should not get bailed out with a whistle... 3/16/2007 11:37:55 PM |
state2285 All American 558 Posts user info edit post |
the first thing duke players are taught when they walk on campus is how to flop and fake being fouled.
if you watch sheyer, he'll shoot a 3 and then pull the defender on top of him trying to get a call......that's pathetic, if you really get fouled then that's fine, if not then stay on your fucking feet and play basketball 3/16/2007 11:41:55 PM |
NCSUMEB All American 2530 Posts user info edit post |
Aristotle, you are a humliating embarassment to organized sports and men everywhere. Greg "I'll be lucky to coach high school basketball" Paulus took a dive, plain and simple. You'd better hope the NCAA doesn't make this one of their "points of emphasis" like the palming violation a few years ago. How anyone could even defend Paulus's actions (except Shane Battier) is beyond human comprehension. If anyone of our players did that I'd have him on the bench ASAP. His foot was stepped on??????? This has got to tbe the biggest joke of an explanation I've heard since "wha ha happened wuz." Of the few Dook fans I know, they always act very graciously when they get the flops called their way, but you are actually defending it, as in this case with Greggy Poo, unbelieveable
[Edited on March 17, 2007 at 1:14 AM. Reason : /] 3/17/2007 1:05:24 AM |
BridgetSPK #1 Sir Purr Fan 31378 Posts user info edit post |
AHA, I still love this shit. 4/14/2007 2:04:49 PM |
slackerb All American 5093 Posts user info edit post |
I remember in the 90's it was the Carolina flop.
Brendan Haywood anyone? 4/16/2007 10:29:34 AM |
Aristotle Suspended 2231 Posts user info edit post |
I'm not defending a flop. I agree with you on flopping and its terribleness but when your foot is stepped on in that situation its best to just let your body fall with it to prevent seperating a knee or some other injury. 4/16/2007 11:50:00 AM |
NCSUMEB All American 2530 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "Brendan Haywood Shane Battier anyone?" |
4/16/2007 11:57:39 AM |
slackerb All American 5093 Posts user info edit post |
I'm just saying it's not a Duke invention.
And that I heard the term Carolina flop way before Duke was credited for perfecting it. Hell, it's of Dean Smith's contributing legacies to college basketball. 4/16/2007 12:50:14 PM |
NyM410 J-E-T-S 50085 Posts user info edit post |
Duke has, BY FAR, the most widespread use of flops in the sport today. There really isn't even a question about it. 4/16/2007 12:56:46 PM |
montclair All American 1372 Posts user info edit post |
Still so funny 5/7/2007 5:48:21 AM |
Mattallica All American 6512 Posts user info edit post |
manu! 5/7/2007 3:43:04 PM |
wolfAApack All American 9980 Posts user info edit post |
this thread should make it to next season cause I'm sure it will be needed again. 5/7/2007 3:52:59 PM |
SourPatchin All American 1898 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "Aristotle: I'm not defending a flop. I agree with you on flopping and its terribleness but when your foot is stepped on in that situation its best to just let your body fall with it to prevent seperating a knee or some other injury." |
What do you mean "fall with it"? If somebody is stepping on your foot, you actually don't want to fall over. It's not good to be laying horizontal while one part of your body (your foot) is stuck in a vertical position. Why would you suggest that? Physically, just imagine that someone is stepping on your foot, and you can't move it...do you want to fall on your back when you're in that position?
But all that is besides the point. His foot was stepped on for like an instant. It didn't affect his being a flopping fool in any way.5/13/2007 12:13:35 AM |
simonn best gottfriend 28968 Posts user info edit post |
http://images.google.com/images?svnum=10&hl=en&gbv=2&safe=off&q=jon%20scheyer&ie=UTF-8&oe=UTF-8&um=1&sa=N&tab=wi
har har har har 5/13/2007 3:12:46 AM |
SourPatchin All American 1898 Posts user info edit post |
^DUCKIE!!! 5/13/2007 3:22:43 AM |
Jaybee1200 Suspended 56200 Posts user info edit post |
its weird to me that Deng was there when Roy was at UNC... It seems like Deng was there years ago and roy is brand new 5/13/2007 4:52:43 AM |
simonn best gottfriend 28968 Posts user info edit post |
^^ what? i was pointing out this
Quote : | "Did you mean: jon cryer" |
5/13/2007 2:31:26 PM |
SourPatchin All American 1898 Posts user info edit post |
^Yeah, I caught that. Funny stuff.
Jon Cryer is an actor who played a beloved character named Duckie in the movie Pretty in Pink. He practically saved the movie. And I love Duckie! 5/13/2007 5:55:40 PM |
simonn best gottfriend 28968 Posts user info edit post |
ohhhhhhhhhhhh
i thought you were calling me a dukie. lol, sorry.
that was a good character. 5/13/2007 9:53:24 PM |