MrLuvaLuva85 All American 4265 Posts user info edit post |
http://www.buccaneers.com/news/newsdetail.aspx?newsid=5717
3/28/2007 10:37:29 AM |
MrLuvaLuva85 All American 4265 Posts user info edit post |
AGILITY TESTS
Campus: 5.27 in the 40-yard dash … 510-pound bench press … 500-pound squat … 300-pound power clean … 27-inch vertical jump … 8-foot-3 broad jump … 32 5/8-inch arm length … 9 1/2-inch hands … Ambidextrous … 13/22 Wonderlic score.
per nfl.com/draft 3/28/2007 10:40:51 AM |
timswar All American 41050 Posts user info edit post |
Damn, never realized just how big he is... (other than the fact that his nickname is "Tank") 3/28/2007 10:41:18 AM |
Oeuvre All American 6651 Posts user info edit post |
looking at that picture frightens me. 3/28/2007 10:42:11 AM |
Restricted All American 15537 Posts user info edit post |
I would like to have seen how legal those lifts were 3/28/2007 10:42:21 AM |
MrLuvaLuva85 All American 4265 Posts user info edit post |
aj davis got a 16 on the wonderlic and leroy harris got an 18 3/28/2007 10:43:42 AM |
eleusis All American 24527 Posts user info edit post |
how in the hell does someone manage to bench more than they squat? 3/28/2007 10:51:39 AM |
Jeepin4x4 #Pack9 35774 Posts user info edit post |
that is a big boy 3/28/2007 10:54:00 AM |
MrLuvaLuva85 All American 4265 Posts user info edit post |
^^easy..just look at his fucking cannon arms lol 3/28/2007 10:55:40 AM |
ssclark Black and Proud 14179 Posts user info edit post |
that squat is rather low but the rest of that is just silly ... 3/28/2007 10:56:05 AM |
Nashattack All American 7022 Posts user info edit post |
I could incline more than I could bench or squat
I bet his incline is up there too because of his shoulders (most lineman are similar)
[Edited on March 28, 2007 at 11:02 AM. Reason : .] 3/28/2007 11:02:10 AM |
rflong All American 11472 Posts user info edit post |
There are some guys who bench more than they squat because their upper body is so big it makes the bench rep that much easier (smaller range of motion). With a squat, you still have to go parallel and for big guys it can be hard to get that low and back up.
Also Levar Fisher benched 555 when he was at State... 3/28/2007 11:20:09 AM |
simonn best gottfriend 28968 Posts user info edit post |
he is an absolute beast. 3/28/2007 11:37:23 AM |
walterMaxSE Veteran 328 Posts user info edit post |
^^ right, plus he has to lift his own massive upperbody... that's probably alot of self-weight
[Edited on March 28, 2007 at 11:38 AM. Reason : carrot] 3/28/2007 11:37:40 AM |
PackBacker All American 14415 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "Also Levar Fisher benched 555 when he was at State..." |
Didn't Derrick Morris break some kind of unnoficial record at the Day of Champions?
[Edited on March 28, 2007 at 11:41 AM. Reason : Day of Champions...not walk of champions. Still looking for the champions, tho]3/28/2007 11:38:55 AM |
phishbfm All American 4715 Posts user info edit post |
from what i've heard, while chuck was here, it's hard to believe any of those bench numbers. At least the ones during the "Walk(or was it Day?) of Champions". I heard the weights were less than advertised to create buzz and put on a good show.
[Edited on March 28, 2007 at 11:41 AM. Reason : .] 3/28/2007 11:40:56 AM |
PackBacker All American 14415 Posts user info edit post |
^ No, I think you're right with Day of Champions.
Walk of Champions doesn't include weight lifting 3/28/2007 11:42:26 AM |
eleusis All American 24527 Posts user info edit post |
that comment about having a large upper body helping your bench Range of Motion is just bullshit. look how long his arms are. This isn't some 5'-7" midget bodybuilder. his bench number is very impressive, and it's definitely because of good training. however, bench strength won't bail your ass out when you don't have the leg strength to back it up.
all of these comments are just excuses for why he doesn't put emphasis on leg training. he's going to get bullied around in the NFL if he doesn't beef up his legs with a quickness. 3/28/2007 11:45:20 AM |
GenghisJohn bonafide 10252 Posts user info edit post |
that mothafucka is scary 3/28/2007 11:52:05 AM |
TreeTwista10 minisoldr 148450 Posts user info edit post |
he better be able to bench 500+
that seemed like one thing Amato could teach...how to build up your pecs 3/28/2007 11:56:13 AM |
Nashattack All American 7022 Posts user info edit post |
ha chuck had a big chest ha 3/28/2007 12:01:00 PM |
Stein All American 19842 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "how in the hell does someone manage to bench more than they squat?" |
I bench more than I squat I just have shitty knees though.3/28/2007 12:22:14 PM |
GangGanja21 Veteran 358 Posts user info edit post |
I saw him and SUPER MARIO at College Inn last week with their ballin whips 3/28/2007 12:59:42 PM |
spro All American 4329 Posts user info edit post |
he is large 3/28/2007 1:05:43 PM |
MyFilosofy All American 628 Posts user info edit post |
Shit...Philip could bench 400 - that's beastly for a QB 3/28/2007 1:15:06 PM |
rflong All American 11472 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "that comment about having a large upper body helping your bench Range of Motion is just bullshit. look how long his arms are. " |
I never said that is the reason Tank benchs more than he squats.
I was answering a question someone else asked about who benchs more than they squat. Many professional power lifters are strong and have high bench presses because they have short arms and huge chests and thus less range of motion.
[Edited on March 28, 2007 at 1:15 PM. Reason : u]3/28/2007 1:15:35 PM |
eleusis All American 24527 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "I was answering a question someone else asked about who benchs more than they squat. Many professional power lifters are strong and have high bench presses because they have short arms and huge chests and thus less range of motion. " |
I asked that question - not someone else, and you're full of shit. no serious power lifter benches more than they squat, or even comes close to it raw lifting.3/28/2007 2:07:39 PM |
ssjamind All American 30102 Posts user info edit post |
could be a typo - maybe they meant to put 600.
[Edited on March 28, 2007 at 2:15 PM. Reason : ertwertrt] 3/28/2007 2:10:52 PM |
NoidRoid All American 7642 Posts user info edit post |
it said in the article that he had a slight hamstring problem at the combine, maybe that had something to do with his relatively low squat 3/28/2007 2:33:48 PM |
bigun60 All American 1069 Posts user info edit post |
^ that would have to. I did 650 in high school and I am NO WHERE near tank's size.... 3/28/2007 3:21:07 PM |
drunknloaded Suspended 147487 Posts user info edit post |
haha damn he got a low ass squat 3/28/2007 3:22:15 PM |
FitchNCSU All American 3283 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "he's going to get bullied around in the NFL if he doesn't beef up his legs with a quickness." |
How do you know? Lifting weights and playing football are two completely different things. I've always taken combine lifts with a grain of salt. Its like a horse show. Agility, quickness, and athleticism are most critical at that level. Lifts do not always correspond with these. And besides, maybe he had a bad day!3/28/2007 3:34:37 PM |
plaisted7 Veteran 499 Posts user info edit post |
I think he could eat me.
[Edited on March 28, 2007 at 3:36 PM. Reason : yarr] 3/28/2007 3:35:50 PM |
TreeTwista10 minisoldr 148450 Posts user info edit post |
^when he's hongry, he eats people 3/28/2007 3:40:07 PM |
ssclark Black and Proud 14179 Posts user info edit post |
^^^ you sir have not played much football ... let alone a line position, if you're downplaying the importance of lowerbody strength... thanks for your opinion tho 3/28/2007 4:00:36 PM |
drunknloaded Suspended 147487 Posts user info edit post |
[Edited on March 28, 2007 at 4:03 PM. Reason : the back is "dinner is served" its an ncsu shirt i got from bragaw help desk]
3/28/2007 4:02:35 PM |
Fermata All American 3771 Posts user info edit post |
He's a really nice guy.
The few times I've gotten to shake his hand his has absolutely engulfed mine. 3/28/2007 4:12:26 PM |
Restricted All American 15537 Posts user info edit post |
It's easy to bench more then you squat you bounce it off your chest with three of your boys deadlifting it off you. 3/28/2007 4:19:17 PM |
FitchNCSU All American 3283 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "^^^ you sir have not played much football ... let alone a line position, if you're downplaying the importance of lowerbody strength... thanks for your opinion tho" |
Yea, thanks for your opinion. You sir don't know shit about me or what i am talking about.
I'm not downplaying the importance of lower-body strength. You must not have good reading skills. I am saying that there are several factors, not just a goddamn lift. A 500 pound squat may not be spectacular by NFL standards, but its not weak either. Squatting a shitload doesn't make someone faster or agile- which are skills that are most valued. And besides, he might have just had a bad day. Its been stated his hamstring is hurt.3/28/2007 4:21:23 PM |
Restricted All American 15537 Posts user info edit post |
The squat will make you faster and more agile. 3/28/2007 4:22:41 PM |
FitchNCSU All American 3283 Posts user info edit post |
Not always. 3/28/2007 4:23:13 PM |
Darb5000 All American 1294 Posts user info edit post |
Shit guys, let it go. I good squat certainly helps one's strength, agility, football skill, etc. It is also one of a few factors that play in to it. If you can squat 700 lbs but have two fucking left feet and a 300 lb bench, I can't imagine you'll be a probowler. However, if you've got great footwork and only a 300 lb squat, you aren't making it very far either. 3/28/2007 4:34:53 PM |
eleusis All American 24527 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "it said in the article that he had a slight hamstring problem at the combine, maybe that had something to do with his relatively low squat" |
that would definitely make a difference. squatting deep is damn near impossible with a hamstring injury, and that is one muscle you definitely don't want to tear. if you ever do tear a hamstring, surgery is the only way to correct the situation.
I was wondering why his squat number was so low, considering the way he bowled over offensive linemen during games.3/28/2007 4:41:20 PM |
Acanthus Suspended 1747 Posts user info edit post |
restricted shut the fuck up
i gaurantee that while his squat is average, he can bring that shit 4 quarters of football and he has good hands to where the fucker aint gotta bullrush the o lineman head on all the damn time like u seem to think so
i know cuz i payed with him, he got tiny lil legs too we always got on him for that, hes got what he needs to succeed man, go show us how tough you are and WIN THE COMBINE
(hes gotten bigger since when he was here, obviously lol)
theres a diff between being a stiffneck powerlifter and being a fluid athlete
[Edited on March 28, 2007 at 5:31 PM. Reason : f] 3/28/2007 5:28:18 PM |
he hate me Veteran 458 Posts user info edit post |
espn insider has him going early second round but knocks on him by bringing up his off field problems, and the fact that he is an idiot 3/28/2007 5:30:45 PM |
eleusis All American 24527 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "i gaurantee that while his squat is average," |
average for what, an NFL outside linebacker?3/28/2007 5:50:43 PM |
Fermata All American 3771 Posts user info edit post |
If the bench press wasn't the weightlifter's exercise equivalency of penis envy noone would care.
Besides, some people for whatever reason are better at certain exercises.
The fact that his front delts and tris are huge might have something to do with it. 3/28/2007 5:58:07 PM |
Restricted All American 15537 Posts user info edit post |
^^^^ I'm knocking his ability to play football douchebag, I'm knocking the inflated numbers that college programs put out. Its all a contest to see who guys are the strongest instead of teaching players the correct way to lift, which is way more beneficial then saying someone can squat 700.
[Edited on March 28, 2007 at 6:50 PM. Reason : fhghf] 3/28/2007 6:46:31 PM |
eleusis All American 24527 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "If the bench press wasn't the weightlifter's exercise equivalency of penis envy noone would care. " |
weightlifters maybe, but not powerlifters. the deadlift reigns supreme with them.3/28/2007 7:59:41 PM |
superchevy All American 20874 Posts user info edit post |
there's been talks on some rams boards that they wouldn't mind trading down from their 13th pick to get tank. this is if okoye is gone (which he probably will be), and the rams need the extra pick too.
the chiefs are also reportedly very interested in tank. there have been a couple of mock drafts that have them taking tank at #23 (if okoye and branch are gone). carl peterson, the chiefs' president, ceo, and gm, was at one of the pro days to look at tank. their d-line coach, kumrie, had hands-on workout with tank. http://tinyurl.com/2mko4s
finally, there's talks in the jets and buccaneers crowds about taking tank in the first. and keep in mind that alot of teams are cooling on alan branch, because of his character issues. tank had his run in with the cop and spitting on the southern miss player, but i don't think anyone's really concerned about his character.
[Edited on March 28, 2007 at 11:49 PM. Reason : ] 3/28/2007 11:43:23 PM |