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"The Shame of Higher Education By Walter E. Williams, Wednesday, April 4, 2007 Many of our nation's colleges and universities have become cesspools of indoctrination, intolerance, academic dishonesty and the new racism. In a March 1991 speech, Yale President Benno Schmidt warned, "The most serious problems of freedom of expression in our society today exist on our campuses.. . . The assumption seems to be that the purpose of education is to induce correct opinion rather than to search for wisdom and to liberate the mind." Writing in the fall 2006 issue of Academic Questions, Luann Wright, in her article titled "Pernicious Politicization in Academe," documents academic dishonesty and indoctrination all too common today. Here are some of her findings: -- An ethnic studies professor, at Cal State Northridge and Pasadena City College, teaches that "the role of students and teachers in ethnic studies is to comfort the afflicted and afflict the comfortable." -- UC Santa Barbara's School of Education e-mailed its faculty asking them to consider classroom options concerning the Iraq War, suggesting they excuse students from class to attend anti-war events and give them extra credit to write about it. -- An English professor at Montclair State University in New Jersey tells his students, "Conservatism champions racism, exploitation and imperialist war." Other instances of academic dishonesty include professors having their students write letters to state representatives protesting budget cuts. Students enrolled in cell biology, math and art classes must sit through lectures listening to professorial rants about unrelated topics such as globalism, U.S. exploitation of the Middle East and President Bush. Wright is also the founder of NoIndoctrination.org, a website containing hundreds of reports of similar academic bias and dishonesty. Anne D. Neal, president of The American Council of Trustees and Alumni, wrote a companion article titled "Advocacy in the College Classroom." She says that campuses across the nation have cultivated an atmosphere that permits the disinviting of politically incorrect speakers; politicized instruction; reprisals against or intimidation of students who speak their mind; political discrimination in college hiring and retention; and campus speech codes. On most college campuses, there's the worship of diversity. The universities of Harvard, Texas A&M, UC Berkeley, Virginia and many others boast of officers, deans and vice presidents of diversity. Many academics make the mindless argument, with absolutely no evidence to back it up, that racial representation is necessary for academic excellence. For them, getting the right racial mix requires racial discrimination. Diversity wasn't the buzzword back in the 1970s, '80s and '90s. Diversity is the response by universities, as well as corporations, to various court decisions holding racial quotas, goals and timetables unconstitutional. Offices of diversity and inclusion are simply substitutes for yesterday's offices of equity or affirmative action. It's simply a matter of old wine in new bottles, but it's racism just the same. In an open letter titled "To the President of My University," Carl Cohen, professor of philosophy at the University of Michigan, summarizes, "Diversity is a good thing -- but the claim that the need for diversity is so compelling that it overrides the constitutional guarantee of civic equality is one we swallow only because, by holding our nose and gulping it down, we can go on doing what our feeling of guilt demands." Until parents, donors and taxpayers shed their unwillingness to investigate what's sold to them as higher education, what we see today will continue and get worse. Just as important is the recognition of the fact that boards of trustees at our colleges and universities bear the ultimate responsibility, and it is they who've been grossly derelict in their duty."

I haven't been in college for years, so you'll have to either back this up or call BS.

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4/4/2007 10:44:29 AM

4/4/2007 10:45:04 AM

troller46an3

4/4/2007 10:55:12 AM

I wasn't even aware of politics when I was in college. It was easy to do since I was in the engineering school.

4/4/2007 11:00:38 AM

the answer to the question posed in the thread title is a loud and resounding no

4/4/2007 11:08:52 AM

i think its pretty obvious that most universities have a liberal bias

4/4/2007 11:14:06 AM

facts have a liberal bias.

nc state doesnt engage in indoctriantion though.

4/4/2007 12:26:05 PM

facts have liberal bias lol

4/4/2007 12:29:35 PM

reality has a well know liberal bias

4/4/2007 12:40:53 PM

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"well know "

4/4/2007 12:42:18 PM

all higher education is a refuge for the previously unemployable commies from the 50's and such....

it's just been perpetuated through hiring practices

4/4/2007 12:49:58 PM

^bingo. Its a big problem at a lot of universities. Columbia University is one that comes instantly to mind.

4/4/2007 1:06:03 PM

yup

4/4/2007 1:08:18 PM

I have had a lot of liberal profs, but that's because I take mainly English and History classes.

4/4/2007 2:34:52 PM

sue me, my "n" key is on the fritz... time to clean out the keyboard

4/4/2007 3:17:40 PM

"n" key?

racist

4/4/2007 4:49:27 PM

Only the weak minded can be indoctrinated. It's like a Jedi mind trick.

4/4/2007 4:52:16 PM

NCSU?

[no]

4/4/2007 5:13:01 PM

I had English and Sociology classes where the teachers taught their left-wing opinions as fact. They did not even make a cursory attempt at objectivity. I guess some people bought into it, but to me it really undermined their credibility.

4/4/2007 7:28:46 PM

you can't teach english or sociology without a liberal tilt to it.

sociology in and of itself is liberal.

literature is in and of itself liberal (at least the literature worth reading, but I guess it wouldn't be literature if it wasn't worth reading, hency dan brown isn't literature).

4/4/2007 7:48:27 PM

bahahahahaha how can you even come close to comparing nc state to a cespool of liberal indoctrination; and what makes liberalism a cespool by default anyway? I take offense

4/4/2007 9:23:01 PM

My sociology professor at State thought that it would be fair to equally distribute income to each economic class...she broke it down by each 20 percent and what income percentage each group made. She then went on to say the "fairest" way would be to give each group an equal piece of the economic pie.

We used to call the 1911 Building Red Square, and for good reason...

4/4/2007 9:28:44 PM

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"literature is in and of itself liberal "

You mean there are people who write books other than Rush Limbaugh and Sean Hannity?

4/4/2007 9:45:50 PM

Ann Coulter, duh.

4/4/2007 9:47:11 PM

I'm constantly irritated by the blatant liberal bias in my Design of Thermal Systems class

what a bunch of commies they are in MAE

4/4/2007 10:59:09 PM

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"sociology in and of itself is liberal."

very true
the important part is that they admit it. at least the one I had did. Dr Della Fave is a wild eyed radical commie. But, he tells you that he is, and he deals with the subject matter on its own merits.

My only problem with professors being anything is when they act like their opinion is fact and dont allow for discussion.

4/4/2007 11:05:11 PM

can't say i remember much of it outside of Thompkins

4/4/2007 11:10:35 PM

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"all higher education is a refuge for the previously unemployable commies from the 50's and such.... it's just been perpetuated through hiring practices "

nail on head

4/5/2007 12:14:39 AM

I forgot, college isn't supposed to challenge you to understand why you believe the things you do; it supposed to reinforce your preconceived notions and individual biases into a rigid, unchangeable world view, regardless of reason or facts.

4/5/2007 12:38:13 AM

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" My sociology professor at State thought that it would be fair to equally distribute income to each economic class...she broke it down by each 20 percent and what income percentage each group made. She then went on to say the "fairest" way would be to give each group an equal piece of the economic pie. We used to call the 1911 Building Red Square, and for good reason..."

I find that a little hard to believe. You were probably too dumb to actually understand the lecture, is my guess.

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4/5/2007 12:42:15 AM

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"I forgot, college isn't supposed to challenge you to understand why you believe the things you do; it supposed to reinforce your preconceived notions and individual biases into a rigid, unchangeable world view, regardless of reason or facts."

If it's your intention to apply this statement to everyone on all sides of the political landscape, then bully for you!

4/5/2007 1:35:13 AM

Ironically enough, the most blatant political bias in a classroom setting that I can think of was of a teacher who often said things like "Bill Clinton scares me."

kinda funny. just goes to show that the BS can come from both sides...

4/5/2007 1:48:30 AM

I had a European History class where the lecturing professor was basically a nazi...thought Hitler was a misunderstood genius. And the Teaching Assistant was a Marxist. The Prof. wrote the exams and the TA graded them. Lesson learned? Always aim essay answers towards the TA.
Final Grade: A

4/5/2007 1:58:05 AM

apparently you took a lot of the old nazi's lectures to heart.

4/5/2007 3:15:57 AM

I'd say it's more a case of left-wing bias than indoctrination--but grades are frequently affected. As a TA, I would never grade an assignment based simply on politics.

4/5/2007 4:23:39 AM

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"I find that a little hard to believe. You were probably too dumb to actually understand the lecture, is my guess."

As much as I don't want to feed that faggot troll moron, explain to me, exactly, what this is supposed to mean, because this is exactly the way the professor wrote it on the board with regards to the fairest way to distribute income:

Top 5th - 20%
2nd 5th - 20%
3rd 5th - 20%
4th 5th - 20%
Bottom 5th - 20%

I know you're a dipshit, so each 20% is equally divided up by each income group. How else am I supposed to understand what the woman was trying to imply?


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4/5/2007 7:37:03 AM

this thread is full of some fuckin cry babies.

4/5/2007 10:07:51 AM

I had a SOC professor that was blatantly left. I got a B in the class too (the only B I ever got in any humanities class, the rest were all A's). One of her favorite classroom activities was to rant about how we should not listen to our parents. She told us that we should not listen to our parents because they grew up in a different time then we did. She told us their experiences were not relavent to what was happening today.

Then I noticed that the books we were reading in class were over 20 years old. I explained that the ideas presented in these books (mainly about race, social class, and gender) were outdated and no longer relavent to todays world. She didnt have an answer for my argument......

that was my first and last SOC class. What a crock of BS if you ask me.

4/5/2007 10:22:50 AM

Oh noez! Teh Lib-er-als are gonna take all your white women next!!1

4/5/2007 10:25:57 AM

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I forgot, college isn't supposed to challenge you to understand why you believe the things you do; it supposed to reinforce your preconceived notions and individual biases into a rigid, unchangeable world view, regardless of reason or facts.]

Scuba Steve it is one thing to challange the ideas and beliefs you have but it is another to main stream them. I would say in 90% of my CHASS classes that I took the professor did not care about my ideas or views they only cared about their own. When I wrote a paper based on my ideas and views I would get a C or a D if I wrote the paper on their view or agreed with them I would get a B or a A. Only in liberal majors can you really challange views and beliefs, in the science and math fields most of the time the principles and facts don't change. I never looked forward to having a class in the CHASS buildings because my views were not the same and I knew I would have to just agree and lie to get a good grade. There is a course at state called Race and Ethnic relations and the entire class is devoted to blaming the white's and males for the downfall of our society.

4/5/2007 10:53:06 AM

^What are these views that you wrote about and got Cs and Ds for? I mean, I can imagine your paper topics...

"Poor People Are Poor Because They Don't Work Hard"

"Six Dollars An Hour Is Enough"

"Black People Need to Stop Their Whining"

"Criminals Are Morally Defective"

4/5/2007 11:26:16 AM

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"the answer to the question posed in the thread title is a loud and resounding no"

you obviously werent in CHASS

4/5/2007 12:06:10 PM

^ I agree. But don't forget the College of Education--they're lib as shit over there.

4/5/2007 12:20:49 PM

Oh noez! They are going to teach people how to brainwash our youth into becoming commies.

4/5/2007 12:30:41 PM

I didn't sense any serious biases when I went through State. The political science professors I took courses with all seemed balanced and unbiased in class. I think the only real case of bias I saw was in my required English course where the grad student teaching it was from the school of feminist literary criticism and had us reading books like The Yellow Wallpaper. Yet no one remembers freshman English anyways, so I doubt it had much of an impact on anyone's world view.

4/5/2007 12:34:39 PM

I still remember getting an F on an english paper my freshman year for writing "he" instead of "they" to refer to a single hypothetical person. I guess using proper grammar and English is no longer acceptable in an English class

4/5/2007 12:50:23 PM

Obviously you folks whining about liberal bias never took any business classes. Every professor sans one that I had in BUS was as conservative as they come. NCSU as a whole is more conservative than many other major universities in the US. I'd say just within the ACC, NCSU would rank 2nd only to Clemson in terms of conservativeness.

Oddly enough, it seems like the further onto east campus you get, the more liberal the atmosphere (design, CHASS, education, etc) and the more towards west campus, the more conservative (business & econ, CALS).

4/5/2007 1:00:51 PM

^^

I could see docking a point for not saying "he or she" but an F is ridiculous.

You shouldn't have been referring to a single, hypothetical person in an English paper, by the way...it's frowned upon by many.

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4/5/2007 1:02:20 PM

I find it humorous that I have a degree from CHASS and I escaped all these instances of blatant liberal opinion pushing that you all speak of, even though I had many professors who were clearly liberal. Maybe you were reading too much into what they were saying or maybe i just didnt have any of your professors.

Also notice that all the tales of indoctriniation do not include any crazy ideas that conservatives commonly hold on to. So liberalism is bias and conservatism is truth? Interesting.

4/5/2007 7:42:34 PM

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"Oh noez! Teh Lib-er-als are gonna take all your white women next!!1"

I love these sarcastic but stupid responses from liberals when their nutjobs are called out.

4/5/2007 8:51:41 PM