old thread died..

new trailer up
http://www.apple.com/trailers/fox/fantasticfourriseofthesilversurfer/trailer-large.html

5/2/2007 9:27:20 PM

the teaser looked really good, but after seeing the trailer, i'm not too excited about this movie,

5/2/2007 10:05:35 PM

I was always under the impression that silver surfer was ONLY a scout/messenger for Galactus...I'm not sure if I like them making him the sole bad guy

5/2/2007 10:25:38 PM

they aren't, they've said he will be in it (galactus)

[Edited on May 3, 2007 at 12:22 AM. Reason : $$$]

5/3/2007 12:18:51 AM

good

5/3/2007 8:12:47 AM

obligatory jessica alba is hot as fuck comment

5/3/2007 9:25:28 AM

when the old thread dies please ask the section moderator to bump it instead of making a new thread

5/3/2007 9:34:52 AM

OH WELL

TOO LATE NOW GUNZZ

5/3/2007 9:36:56 AM

holy hell this looks awful.

6/3/2007 7:51:03 PM

i disagree


but i loved the first one

6/3/2007 7:54:30 PM

wasnt impressed at all with the first

meh for the second

6/3/2007 8:42:52 PM

First one was too campy when I first saw it. When I got over that and took it with a grain of salt, it was at least entertaining. The only gripe I have with this one is they've made Silver Surfer a little pansy.

6/3/2007 8:49:55 PM

how is he a pansy? his one line in the trailer is "your world is at an end." WHAT A FAG

6/3/2007 10:03:58 PM

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"I was always under the impression that silver surfer was ONLY a scout/messenger for Galactus...I'm not sure if I like them making him the sole bad guy"

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"they aren't, they've said he will be in it (galactus)"

They'll probably have Silver Surfer as the main bad guy for 90 minutes and throw in a 5 minute "Galactus in the background" scene at the very end.

6/4/2007 8:06:23 AM

whats teh fucking point of fighting the messenger though?? whether he lives or dies, galactus is coming. so stupid

6/4/2007 3:37:37 PM

Looking forward to it.

6/4/2007 3:41:17 PM

The first FF4 movie was really weak. I basically see this as an opportunity to drag silver surfer and galactus into the realm of lame. Not that making a Galactus story line into a movie is easy to do in a plausible way, but FF4 is like a black hole and it's pulling other comic book heroes into inescapable suck oblivion. At least for 10-15 years, like the Batman and Superman franchises.

6/4/2007 5:41:50 PM

just found out this movie is like an hour and a half long....
usually a bad sign when anything that isn't either a cartoon or a horror movie isn't even over 100 minutes

6/4/2007 6:33:06 PM

^haha i'm one of those kinda people too

good movies are AT LEAST 100 minutes

6/4/2007 6:33:49 PM

^well, that usually means that they made it short to save money, and on top of that, it means it isn't going to make a lot of money based on word of mouth and is going to try and make up by having atleast 5 showtimes per print, in an effort to sell more tickets. basically it couldn't be long like pirates... with only 3 showings per print and sell out enough auditoriums to make money.

that's just what I've noticed working at theaters. you could talk all day about how lame and simple a plot must be to work in under 100 minutes...which is why usually only childrens movies and horror movies (usually the pg13 ones) try to get away with it.

6/4/2007 6:39:46 PM

^^^^ You may be right.

6/5/2007 12:33:42 AM

i dont know why this thread isn't filled with alba pics

6/5/2007 12:52:23 AM

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"^^^^ You may are be right."

PS: But you didn't post one either.

[Edited on June 5, 2007 at 1:18 AM. Reason : .]

6/5/2007 1:18:17 AM

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"just found out this movie is like an hour and a half long.... usually a bad sign when anything that isn't either a cartoon or a horror movie isn't even over 100 minutes"

runtime 92 minutes... 8 short of your 100 minimum...

anyway, they can't exactly make this a long movie, for one thing people won't sit for it. overall people didn't like the first F4 movie so they're not going to sit for a longer movie for a franchise that had a bad begining.

beyond that, it's really not that long of a story if they're mainly going to focus on the Silver Surfer and have Galactus appear last... fighting Galactus SHOULD be an entire move in and of itself, so i wouldn't be surprised at all if they're setting up for a sequel... if that's the case then an hour and a half for SS and an hour and a half for Galactus makes sense to me...

gah, i can't believe i just defended an F4 movie, but hey, maybe this one won't be as bad as everyone said the first one was (maybe, it's possible, i suppose)

6/5/2007 6:20:03 AM

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"whats teh ****ing point of fighting the messenger though??"

Glad to see I wasn't the only one thinking this while watching the commercials. Except my take was why is Silver Surfer even bothering to have long drawn out fights with people?

6/5/2007 7:38:30 AM

eh, it really doesn't look like he's having long drawn out fights.

His chase with Johnny, doesn't fight him, just grabs him and throws him away

With the rocket launchers, its kinda like he's just swatting them aside

6/5/2007 9:30:58 AM

this is terrible, this idea.

6/5/2007 9:31:38 AM

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""whats teh ****ing point of fighting the messenger though??""

now I can't believe I'm defending this shitty movie...

ok... they don't know a lot about the silver surfer. they don't have wikipedia.
but they have noticed that wherever this thing goes, a few days later planets die/disappear, whatever. so they are under the impression that the silver surfer is responsible for all that destruction.

I mean, it pretty much shows that in the trailer.

6/5/2007 12:37:55 PM

ok so shitty movie aside

Why DOES the surfer show up and then the planet dies? I dont know anything about Silver Surfer comics. Why does he have to show up?

6/5/2007 12:39:58 PM

he is basically the slave of galactus. galactus eats planets. and when he came up to silver surfers planet, the silver surfer begged him not to. they made a deal. galactus leaves his planet alone, but the silver surfer must seek out other planets for him to consume. he also gave the silver surfer a lot of his powers i believe. ohh, and a lot of the time the silver surfer tries to keep away from planets with intelligent life, or warn in atleast.

6/5/2007 12:43:40 PM

^ actually i think the deal was he leaves hims stuck on earth.

6/5/2007 12:53:58 PM

^ no...

galactus basically forces him to stay on earth AFTER he finds out that the silver surfer betrays him to help earth.

it wasn't the deal that they originally made that got him stuck on earth

6/5/2007 1:02:05 PM

ps. im just going on what i've learned from these huge comic book fans i work with. my memory could be wrong, but I asked them the same question a few months ago

6/5/2007 1:02:45 PM

http://www.marvel.com/universe/Silver_Surfer

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"The Surfer served Galactus well for many years, enjoying exploring the wonders of the universe; however, it became increasingly difficult for Radd to find energy-rich worlds devoid of sentient life. Over time, Galactus subtly altered the Surfer's mind, submerging Radd's emotions and repressing past memories. As a result, the Surfer became much more willing to lead Galactus to inhabited worlds, such as Earth. Locating Earth despite Uatu The Watcher's covert attempts to ward him off, the Surfer caused widespread panic and fought the Fantastic Four. During this conflict, the Surfer met blind sculptress Alicia Masters, who sensed his inner nobility and pleaded with him to spare humanity. His long-dormant emotions stirred by what Alicia taught him of beauty and spirit, the Surfer turned on Galactus and helped fight him off long enough for Uatu and the Fantastic Four to secure the Ultimate Nullifier: a cosmic doomsday weapon which forced Galactus to withdraw. However, Galactus punished the Surfer by trapping him on Earth, erecting an energy barrier around the planet that was uniquely attuned to the Surfer."

6/5/2007 1:16:06 PM

ok, sweet, ..so what i said?


I'll be honest, I thought they were fucking with me like they were making the shit up as they went.

6/5/2007 1:30:46 PM

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"but they have noticed that wherever this thing goes, a few days later planets die/disappear, whatever. so they are under the impression that the silver surfer is responsible for all that destruction."

So the movie wants us to believe that they were able to assess that a 6 foot tall silver dude showed up and a few days later the planet died/disappeared but then they didn't notice Galactus (slightly larger than SS) showing up and wreaking havoc while the planet was dying/disappearing.

Yeah, I know. It's a crappy movie.

6/5/2007 1:42:58 PM

I mean, it's as believable as them all getting contact with cosmic rays and getting lame powers like turning into a rock man... or becoming stretch armstrong

gotta remember, this was like marvels first comic

6/5/2007 2:16:49 PM

Oh, I agree. I'm just saying that suspension of belief only goes but so far. You'd expect a movie to work within the rules it sets up for itself, however absurd.

6/5/2007 2:23:05 PM

ok, that makes sense

I didn't think the surfer was evil from the comics i had

6/7/2007 2:40:08 AM

^^ From what I've heard about the movie and seen from the trailers, everything seems pretty loyal to the comics. The F4 didn't realize that Silver Surfer was just a puppet until he told them. So they saw Silver Surfer as the reason all these planets died and attacked him to stop him. Silver Surfer retaliated and there was an entire arch of them just fighting. Then they had a little pow wow and straightened shit out. The viewers are going to see SS as evil just as the F4 did until they find out about Galactus.

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"gah, i can't believe i just defended an F4 movie"

6/7/2007 2:56:32 AM

Laurence Fishburne is the voice of SS for those that don't know.

Seeing this thread made me remember that and I ctrl+f'd and couldn't believe it hadn't been mentioned.

maybe my ctrl F is broken or people just don't care.

apparently another guy did the whole movie and the actor based his movements off that guy's voice, and then they were like "nahhhhhh lets go w/ morpheus."

[Edited on June 7, 2007 at 3:00 AM. Reason : fhd]

6/7/2007 3:00:32 AM

Yup...

Doug Jones did the acting for the silver surfer. He is the same guy that was the faun and "pale man" in pan's labyrinth.

he does this kind of "character acting" or whatever it's called all the time, kind of like Andy Serkis did as Gollum or King Kong

6/7/2007 5:52:27 PM

Doug Jones does some really good work too. he was Abe Sabien (the fish guy) in hell boy. The guy who voiced him (David Hyde Pierce) refused to be credited in the movie because he believed that Jones made the character come alive and that it was his character.

6/7/2007 7:04:40 PM

^someone's been reading his IMDB profile!

yeah, me too.

6/8/2007 12:27:19 AM

So, any thoughts on the movie being rated PG and having Galactus be portrayed as a...

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6/12/2007 6:47:32 PM

what's wrong with a movie being rated pg?

6/12/2007 7:02:46 PM

Really big cosmic storm cloud...?

Is that seriously what they're doing for Galactus?

6/13/2007 8:46:35 AM

^http://www.rottentomatoes.com/news/comments/?entryid=415475

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"Man, us movie nerds will find the strangest things to complain about ..."

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"What works on the page doesn't always work on the screen."

...speechless.

I guess the director doesn't feel like making any more Fantastic Four movies after this one.

Found this which contradicts the storm cloud rumor:
http://forum.newsarama.com/showthread.php?p=3839127

[Edited on June 13, 2007 at 12:48 PM. Reason : -]

6/13/2007 12:23:28 PM

After a bit of digging:

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"[Beginning spoilers!] Just how did they pull off the gigantic King Kong-sized planet-devouring behemoth that is Galactus from the comic books? Well, they didn’t. Galactus doesn’t have a single line of dialogue in the movie and simply appears at the end of the movie as a planet-sized dust storm. Yup, you read that right. They should have called him Twistus instead because he appears as a left-over special effect from Twister. Not only do they completely ignore the character as he (it?) appeared in the comics, but the Silver Surfer so easily defeats Galactus that it is almost insulting. No wonder the writers went to the trouble of bringing back Dr Doom as a villain for a subplot because they simply had no idea what to do with Galactus himself. (In this particular daft subplot Dr Doom steals the Surfer’s galactic surfboard — yeah, you read that right too.) [End spoilers!]"

from http://www.scifimoviepage.com/fantasticfour2silversurfer.html.

6/13/2007 1:12:10 PM

^^ i hope that article is accurate and that this dust cloud thing isn't really what they went with

6/13/2007 6:07:22 PM