Talks about our generation, what's in store for the future, and our complete rejection of the Boomer generation. Good read if that kind of stuff interests you.

http://bullnotbull.com/archive/fourth-turning.html

Also talks about generational changes in mainstream culture and how they occur overnight. This picture makes me laugh.

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"But wait. A turning comes every 20 years, and the Fourth Turning is due right about now. All turnings cause society to change direction, but the Fourth Turning is the most powerful of them all. It is, the authors say, “history’s great discontinuity. It ends one epoch and begins another.” It is “a Crisis – a decisive era of secular upheaval, when the values regime propels the replacement of the old civic order with a new one.” In other words, the current value system will likely be exposed, once and for all, to be morally and spiritually bankrupt, unable to solve the myriad problems that have been created by it. Chaos ensues, and from this chaos, a new values regime will be born that is able to effectively solve our seeminly insurmountable problems. The most recent Fourth Turning was born of a time strikingly similar to these. It was when the Roaring Twenties gave way to the twin crises of the Great Depression and World War II. Following that chaotic transition, the nation emerged into the first turning High of the post-war era. "

[Edited on May 13, 2007 at 10:00 PM. Reason : .]

5/13/2007 9:58:25 PM

I'm not sure what the Beatle's pic is suppose to show. You can look at tons of musicians early in their career and later, and see drastic differences in their image.

5/13/2007 10:09:37 PM

pseudointellectual hokum.

5/13/2007 10:32:34 PM

Oh come on...clear out some of the cobwebs in those imaginations...

Strauss & Howe have developed an intersting take on the cyclical nature of generations..how they are very similar in outlook and behavior over the years. They also predict the 4th turning sometime in the next 5-15 years. A major shift in American society. Some possibilities:

A cataclysmic terrorist event?
A national tax revolt against big gov't?
A major revolution from illegal aliens?
An invasion from extraterrestrial aliens?
A splitting up of the country between Blues and Reds?
A major natural disaster that shatters our society?

5/13/2007 11:38:46 PM

2012 its all comming together, its scary cause these signs are comming from many different angles with many different explanations, take notice

5/14/2007 12:56:25 AM

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"I'm not sure what the Beatle's pic is suppose to show. You can look at tons of musicians early in their career and later, and see drastic differences in their image."

Well, here was the text before the picture:

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"The Second Turning is the era currently being recalled fondly in the latest Rolling Stone: The Sixties. Second turnings are “an Awakening - a passionate era of spiritual upheaval, when the civic order comes under attack from a new values regime.” You can see this quite clearly in the three years between 1964 – 1967. Anthony DeCurtis, in his interview of Paul McCartney points out that those three years were the difference between the Beatles’ “I Want to Hold Your Hand" and "Sgt Pepper’s Lonely Hearts Club Band." If you are familiar with the songs, you intuitively understand the tremendous artistic evolution that took place between them in a span of just three years. If you aren’t familiar with them, this is how that transformation appeared visually:"

5/14/2007 7:15:48 AM

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kalyug

5/14/2007 7:35:08 AM

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"2012 its all comming together, its scary cause these signs are comming from many different angles with many different explanations, take notice"

its sad because i've grown to agree.

i hope that wasnt sarcasm

5/14/2007 10:46:54 AM

History has always been cyclical, so I don't doubt that we're in for another significant social shift.

However, I'm always cautious about these sorts of changes because the new social order that may emerge might not be what any of us expected or were hoping for. Also, I'm not fond of the entire talk about total war because for the United States, total war means turning large chunks of the planet's surface into sheets of glass.

5/14/2007 11:06:14 AM

I always wonder how long the American public will put up with the bullshit we do...ridiculous taxes, war, etc...if any major political shifts take place, I predict that libertarianism will slowly begin to catch on.

5/14/2007 11:41:13 AM

i don't

i predict we become one with our television-computer masters

5/14/2007 12:00:59 PM

I think we're more likely to end up with a quasi-dictatorship, a theocracy, or a socialist state before we end up with a libertarian one. People just don't trust corporations enough to give mass privatization a chance.

5/15/2007 2:36:28 AM

^^ Are you simply predicting such a union or hoping for it?

5/15/2007 3:56:49 AM

^^ We have corporations with all the power now. It's the state being partially fused with the corporations, called corporatism. Corporations have far more power in that state than a libertarian country IMO.

[Edited on May 15, 2007 at 8:06 AM. Reason : .]

5/15/2007 8:06:11 AM

i can see corperations becoming more de-centralized and thus benefiting more of its employees with higher salaries and greater benefits

the government no longer capable of providing SS will stablize SS with managed taxation, you pay in less and it accrues in a account assigned for each individual (portions at least) the total sum of the money is re-invested in the market and back into the government stabilizing your payments against inflation plus a small return. this replaces SS entirely. a flat income based tax % for all above a certain level (level gets determined on a yearly basis (usually up)) (small % too like 5-10%), federal sales tax introduced at a low rate. property taxes reduced or eliminated. corperate tax system re-done entirely resulting in few loop holes that can be monitered and a lower rate.

socially - a decided step away from the huge social programs (such as most of europe) and more towards local community based programs. greater steps away from our puritan hang ups.

5/15/2007 3:46:52 PM

* past performance is not indicative of future results

5/15/2007 3:51:37 PM