rflong All American 11472 Posts user info edit post |
This is just fucked up:
Quote : | "Report: Japan Teen Beheads Mother By HANS GREIMEL
Associated Press Writer
TOKYO — A teenage boy carrying a severed head walked into a Japanese police station Tuesday saying he killed his mother, the latest in a series of grisly dismemberments that have horrified a nation renowned for its low crime rate.
The 17-year-old suspect led officers to his house in northern Fukushima prefecture (state) and pointed out his headless mother on her futon mattress, with a frank, "It's in here," Kyodo News reported.
He told police he beheaded his mother on the eve of her 47th birthday while she slept, and added, "It didn't matter who I killed," Kyodo reported. Police confirmed the arrest.
Japan has long prided itself on safe streets and low incidents of violent crime. But the latest killing triggered soul searching about what some worry is a disturbing new trend — particularly with its mix of youthful aggression and icy remorselessness.
"If true, it's horrifying," Chief Cabinet Secretary Yasuhisa Shiozaki said.
Last year, a jobless man allegedly cut up his mother and entombed her body parts in concrete-filled buckets left abandoned in a yard.
In January, Tokyo was put on edge when a woman confessed to dismembering her husband with a saw and dumping the parts around the capital.
Then just weeks ago, the nation was riveted by a high-profile verdict in the death of a British bar hostess whose body was also dismembered and stashed in a seaside cave.
While dismemberment crimes are not unique to Japan, experts say such cases are on the rise as the country grapples with the fallout of a decade of economic malaise. Alienation and a trend toward objectifying fellow humans are also fueling the violence.
"There have been a high number of incidents involving dismembered bodies and I certainly think there is a chain reaction going on," said Susumu Oda, an expert in criminal psychology at Japan's Tezukayamagakuin University.
Tuesday's case recalls a 1997 slaying in which a 14-year-old boy beheaded an 11-year-old and left the head at a school gate with a sinister note stuffed in the mouth.
That case spurred widespread debate about tougher laws against juvenile offenders.
Dismemberments made headlines again last year when a man in western Japan reportedly cut up his mother's body and encased the remains in concrete buckets.
The 37-year-old suspect also allegedly roasted some of the parts on an electric grill before throwing them in the garbage, apparently to delay decomposition and hide the odor.
In the January case, a woman confessed to bludgeoning her husband with a wine bottle, sawing the corpse in pieces and dumping his body parts around Tokyo.
The confession ended a murder mystery that began the previous month when a man's torso was found in a garbage bag on a Tokyo street.
The man's legs were later found at a separate location in Tokyo and his head was discovered in a suburban park weeks later. The woman told police that her husband had physically and emotionally abused her, local media reported.
Late last month, a serial rapist was sentenced to life in prison for nine attacks, but was cleared of raping and dismembering a British woman after a six-year trial that detailed one of Japan's most disturbing sex crimes.
The British victim, Lucie Blackman, worked at a hostess bar frequented by the suspect, and her body was discovered in a cave near his house — her head also encased in concrete. While the suspect was convicted on other charges, the court said there was no solid evidence linking him to the Briton's death.
While such gruesome killings have outraged the nation, some experts caution that the dismembering of victims is not always a symptom of deeper social disfunction.
"In many cases, they killed in a desperate situation and carried or hid the body by dismembering it to avoid being caught for homicide," said Yoshikazu Yuuma, an expert in criminal psychology at Saitama Institute of Technology outside Tokyo.
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http://www.ajc.com/news/content/shared-gen/ap/Asia/Japan_Severed_Head.html?imw=Y5/15/2007 11:10:13 AM |
drunknloaded Suspended 147487 Posts user info edit post |
yeah its fucked up...but is it really worthy of lounge? 5/15/2007 11:11:10 AM |
pwrstrkdf250 Suspended 60006 Posts user info edit post |
so what they're saying is, since guns are illegal there, people go around cutting other people up, right? 5/15/2007 11:11:39 AM |
SouthPaW12 All American 10141 Posts user info edit post |
those jap movies always are the more violent 5/15/2007 11:12:54 AM |
ncstatetke All American 41128 Posts user info edit post |
no, Fuk U!!!5/15/2007 11:16:29 AM |
sarijoul All American 14208 Posts user info edit post |
i'll take a few people getting cut up over the course of a year to hundreds being shot. 5/15/2007 11:16:39 AM |
rflong All American 11472 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "yeah its fucked up...but is it really worthy of lounge?" |
I guess - move it to Chit Chat if it shouldn't be here. I figured it was more of a serious story than a "let's make stupid jokes" story.
[Edited on May 15, 2007 at 11:29 AM. Reason : o]5/15/2007 11:28:06 AM |
mrfrog ☯ 15145 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "i'll take a few people hundreds of people getting cut up over the course of a year to hundreds being shot." |
5/15/2007 11:51:43 AM |
jocristian All American 7527 Posts user info edit post |
jesus H christ, do we really have to turn every murder story into some idiotic gun control pissing contest? 5/15/2007 11:55:49 AM |
hunterb2003 All American 14423 Posts user info edit post |
^ 5/15/2007 3:04:47 PM |
0EPII1 All American 42541 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "A teenage boy carrying a severed head walked into a Japanese police station " |
picture this in your head, esp if he was carrying the head by itself without any bag or box, and esp if he was carrying it by the hair, as if from a medieval war 5/15/2007 3:20:16 PM |
miska All American 22242 Posts user info edit post |
^or the kid from Nightmare Before Christmas who received a head instead of a puppy 5/15/2007 3:53:49 PM |
Malice Suspended 1337 Posts user info edit post |
Jap kids just dont give a fuck. 5/15/2007 4:04:55 PM |
Sonia All American 14028 Posts user info edit post |
Out by Natsuo Kirino. This book's about a handful of women who helped one of their friends hide her husband's body by cutting it to pieces and depositing them all over town dumpsters. Published in 1997 in Japan, translated to English in 2003 by Stephen Snyder. 5/15/2007 4:11:19 PM |
sarijoul All American 14208 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "i'll take a few people hundreds of people getting cut up over the course of a year to hundreds being shot." |
any basis for that at all?5/15/2007 4:11:36 PM |
stone All American 6003 Posts user info edit post |
if you cut them up real small i bet they can fit them in an egg roll 5/15/2007 4:20:08 PM |
leoplurodon Veteran 437 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "The 37-year-old suspect also allegedly roasted some of the parts on an electric grill before throwing them in the garbage, apparently to delay decomposition and hide the odor." |
5/15/2007 4:21:56 PM |
jwb9984 All American 14039 Posts user info edit post |
^^egg roll = chinese 5/15/2007 4:25:00 PM |
Malice Suspended 1337 Posts user info edit post |
chinese=japanese 5/15/2007 4:54:30 PM |
SourPatchin All American 1898 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "pwrstrkdf250: so what they're saying is, since guns are illegal there, people go around cutting other people up, right?" |
Quit trolling yo.
You know that doesn't make any sense.
[Edited on May 15, 2007 at 5:16 PM. Reason : www]5/15/2007 5:15:59 PM |
LiusClues New Recruit 13824 Posts user info edit post |
Malice=ignorant 5/15/2007 5:18:47 PM |
TreeTwista10 minisoldr 148450 Posts user info edit post |
^^for real...ignore stories like this when you're preaching your "people dont kill people, guns kill people, ban guns" stance 5/15/2007 5:37:23 PM |
Malice Suspended 1337 Posts user info edit post |
ok fine chinese < japanese 5/15/2007 5:57:53 PM |
SourPatchin All American 1898 Posts user info edit post |
^^No, I'm not ignoring shit.
He's implying that because they have no guns, they are forced to use knives.
But what's his point? That it woulda been a lot less gruesome if he'd just shot her?
The end result would still be the same. So what's his point? 5/15/2007 7:43:15 PM |
occamsrezr All American 6985 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "Quote : "pwrstrkdf250: so what they're saying is, since guns are illegal there, people go around cutting other people up, right?"
Quit trolling yo.
You know that doesn't make any sense.
[Edited on May 15, 2007 at 5:16 PM. Reason : www]
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Actually it does. Even thought the murder rate is lower here, they come up with some really inventive ways of killing each other.
Some implements I've heard used before: Knives(obviously) Guns (Illegally obtained) Umbrellas Umbrella stand Various books5/15/2007 7:56:01 PM |
firmbuttgntl Suspended 11931 Posts user info edit post |
That kids got future Yakuza all over him. 5/15/2007 8:33:59 PM |
lafta All American 14880 Posts user info edit post |
id rather have 10 people shot than 1 mutilated,
mutilation is just sick, 5/15/2007 8:54:39 PM |
pcmsurf All American 7033 Posts user info edit post |
^ yeah i guess youre right
it makes it better if the murder is tastefully done
[Edited on May 15, 2007 at 9:16 PM. Reason : s] 5/15/2007 9:14:43 PM |
lafta All American 14880 Posts user info edit post |
it make it worse when its brutally done 5/15/2007 9:17:42 PM |
pcmsurf All American 7033 Posts user info edit post |
worse,
but not worth an extra life
and when is murder not brutal?
[Edited on May 15, 2007 at 9:22 PM. Reason : ;] 5/15/2007 9:21:35 PM |
skokiaan All American 26447 Posts user info edit post |
on a happier note, japan is going to have a good showing in miss universe this year
5/15/2007 9:25:41 PM |
sarijoul All American 14208 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "Even thought the murder rate is lower here, they come up with some really inventive ways of killing each other. " |
i assume you meant "there" instead of here.5/15/2007 9:32:26 PM |
0EPII1 All American 42541 Posts user info edit post |
either that, or he is in japan! 5/15/2007 10:08:58 PM |
SourPatchin All American 1898 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "Actually it does. Even thought the murder rate is lower here, they come up with some really inventive ways of killing each other.
Some implements I've heard used before: Knives(obviously) Guns (Illegally obtained) Umbrellas Umbrella stand Various books" |
So you're admitting the murder rate is lower and talking about these inventive ways...
But my point is that why do the inventive ways matter. Eliminating guns makes it more difficult to kill others. Of course, the alternatives are more gruesome...but still more difficult.
I mean, what are the chances that somebody could go on an umbrella massacre and kill 10+ people at once?5/15/2007 10:33:41 PM |
CharlesHF All American 5543 Posts user info edit post |
"umbrella massacre" That made me LOL. 5/15/2007 10:40:48 PM |
0EPII1 All American 42541 Posts user info edit post |
well if he had modified his umbrella to fire nails or darts, then yes, it is possible.
but then that wouldn't be just an umbrella anymore! 5/15/2007 10:41:48 PM |
Wolfman Tim All American 9654 Posts user info edit post |
OMF STOP SNITCHING ON YOSELF 5/16/2007 12:06:25 AM |
occamsrezr All American 6985 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "Quote : "Even thought the murder rate is lower here, they come up with some really inventive ways of killing each other. "
i assume you meant "there" instead of here." |
No, I meant here. I live in Japan.
Quote : | "So you're admitting the murder rate is lower and talking about these inventive ways...
But my point is that why do the inventive ways matter. Eliminating guns makes it more difficult to kill others. Of course, the alternatives are more gruesome...but still more difficult.
I mean, what are the chances that somebody could go on an umbrella massacre and kill 10+ people at once?" |
woah woah woah super sensitive liberal man. I never said that outlawing guns was a bad thing. I agree with it quite a bit, but all I'm saying is that they still find ways of killing each other (albeit less efficiently.)5/16/2007 1:29:03 AM |
SourPatchin All American 1898 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "occamsrezr: woah woah woah super sensitive liberal man. I never said that outlawing guns was a bad thing. I agree with it quite a bit, but all I'm saying is that they still find ways of killing each other (albeit less efficiently.)" |
Of course they find other ways of killing one another...although that's not even clear. I don't have enough evidence to suggest that these people wanted to use guns but then had to find another way. They may have wanted to use an alternative method all along. But whatever, it doesn't really matter.
My response to pwrstrkdf250 was attacking his "point." Whenever somebody takes a blade to the gut or the throat in a country that has outlawed guns or in other countries even, pro-gun folks always chime in with something about guns. But their points don't make any sense. If their "point" is that, in the absence of guns, people will find other ways to kill...well, yeah, of course...that's not much of a fucking point though.
But that "point" isn't always their point. Sometimes, it seems like they're grasping at something deeper, something that's just not there.
I don't know how I feel exactly on the issue of guns, but I'm tired of hearing guns mentioned in threads like this one where that particular topic is totally irrelevant.
It's obnoxious. It's stupid. And like I said in my first response:
It's trolling, and it doesn't make any sense.
[Edited on May 16, 2007 at 1:50 AM. Reason : sss]5/16/2007 1:50:38 AM |
pwrstrkdf250 Suspended 60006 Posts user info edit post |
hahah you sure typed a lot of words to do nothing
I'd rather be shot than beheaded btw!
all I did was make a comment, thats basically this, you can't legislate or regulate people... they will find a way!
now everyone can keep banging away and wasting their time arguing 5/16/2007 10:52:22 AM |
SourPatchin All American 1898 Posts user info edit post |
I type quickly. And I find it necessary to be very explicit on TWW, as I'm so often misinterpreted. 5/16/2007 11:31:40 AM |
Lokken All American 13361 Posts user info edit post |
I need me some of that ms japanese universe please 5/16/2007 12:08:32 PM |
JP All American 16807 Posts user info edit post |
i blame anime 5/16/2007 12:37:26 PM |
TreeTwista10 minisoldr 148450 Posts user info edit post |
ban swords and knives...if there were no swords and knives, this couldnt have happened 5/16/2007 12:53:17 PM |
Arab13 Art Vandelay 45180 Posts user info edit post |
i could do it with scissors too! better ban them! 5/16/2007 1:54:30 PM |
mathman All American 1631 Posts user info edit post |
no sharp edges on anything ! 5/16/2007 2:32:45 PM |
sarijoul All American 14208 Posts user info edit post |
this dumbass logic is so tired.
because you can kill people with a pencil, we should let people have rocket launchers. 5/16/2007 2:34:22 PM |
Lokken All American 13361 Posts user info edit post |
YES
THATS EXACTLY IT!!!1 5/16/2007 2:35:31 PM |
0EPII1 All American 42541 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "ban swords and knives humans...if there were no swords and knives humans, this couldnt have happened" |
5/16/2007 3:42:32 PM |
miska All American 22242 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "I mean, what are the chances that somebody could go on an umbrella massacre and kill 10+ people at once?" |
not to mention the KGB with the poison tipped umbrellas.
^exactly, people are gonna kill people with anything that can be used as weapon5/16/2007 4:08:54 PM |