bribery charges:

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"WASHINGTON -- Rep. William Jefferson, D-La., will be indicted in a bribery investigation involving business deals he tried to broker in Africa, The Associated Press learned Monday. The indictment is being handed up in U.S. District Court in Alexandria, Va. A press conference was being organized for late Monday in Washington to discuss the case. Jefferson has been accused of taking $100,000 from a telecommunications businessman. Authorities said they found $90,000 of the cash in a freezer at Jefferson's home."

http://www.theksbwchannel.com/politics/13438616/detail.html



PS: He was also indicted on racketeering and money-laundering--16 counts.

[Edited on June 4, 2007 at 2:04 PM. Reason : .]

6/4/2007 1:51:20 PM

It's about time they indicted that bastard.

I liked how all of congress (Republicans and Democrats) was up in arms because they searched his office.

Nothing worse than lawmakers who think they are above the law.

6/4/2007 2:01:02 PM

^ Yep. And anybody that defends a public servant having $90,000 in his freezer is a fool.

6/4/2007 2:06:56 PM

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20070529/ap_on_re_as/china_tainted_food_4

If we were China, he'd be executed.

6/4/2007 2:10:34 PM

so is there some sort of controversial topic here? the guy fucked up and deserves to be indicted.

[Edited on June 4, 2007 at 2:15 PM. Reason : .]

6/4/2007 2:14:50 PM

^ You mean like the posting orgy you lefties had during the Foley scandal? There must've been five or six threads about it--and I'll just bet you posted your share.

6/4/2007 2:32:20 PM

as the original poster, you supplied absolutely no topic to talk about. you just posted a story and some rolly eyes.

[Edited on June 4, 2007 at 2:35 PM. Reason : .]

6/4/2007 2:35:22 PM

you mean to tell me that politicians on both sides of the aisle are corrupt?

surely you jest

6/4/2007 2:37:36 PM

^^ Um. . .are you serious? The topic is self-evident--sorry I didn't draw you a map.

6/4/2007 2:52:51 PM

Im by no means defending the guy, he fucked up and needs to be punished.

But, your weak argument about the foley scandal just to try and rub this thing in our face because we are democrats is pretty sad. I know there are corrupt politicians in the democratic party, just like there are in the republican party, theres no secret there. On the same hand, a guy stealing 100k does not warrant the same amount of discussion and damnation as someone who tried to bang underage pages.

6/4/2007 2:53:58 PM

^^go ahead and draw me a map. i really don't see what you suggest is the topic at hand here beyond a story that was discussed plenty a year ago. so he was indicted today? okay.

6/4/2007 2:55:41 PM

Quote :

" And anybody that defends a public servant having $90,000 in his freezer is a fool."

I would like to know who these imaginary people in Hooksaw's conservative fantasy-land that are actually defending him are.

6/4/2007 2:58:33 PM

WE NEED TO MAKE THIS STORY DISAPPEAR QUICK

6/4/2007 2:58:56 PM

^^^^ I don't give a fuck about Foley. You made my point for me--scandals happen regardless of party affiliation. But many here seem to think that only Republicans can be evil or criminal--and the multiple Foley threads were evidence of that.

^^^ I'm not pointing out shit to you--stop trying to make me do your work. I told you the topic is self-evident. If you can't figure it out, then too bad.

[Edited on June 4, 2007 at 3:02 PM. Reason : .]

6/4/2007 3:02:11 PM

Quote :

"I'm not pointing out shit to you--stop trying to make me do your work. I told you the topic is self-evident. If you can't figure it out, then too bad. "

is there a topic beyond "this happened"?

6/4/2007 3:03:40 PM

WE NEED TO MAKE THIS STORY DISAPPEAR QUICK

6/4/2007 3:04:39 PM

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"I would like to know who these imaginary people in Hooksaw's conservative fantasy-land that are actually defending him are."

moron

I give you a North Carolina Democrat and the Congressional Black Caucus. Is that good enough for you, asshole?

Black Caucus opposes Jefferson treatment

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"'It's about to blow up in their face,' predicted Rep. Melvin Watt, chairman of the CBC. The North Carolina Democrat added Thursday night that black voters might wonder why a 'black member of Congress' would be stripped of his committee post with neither rule nor precedent to justify it. The reaction heightened a controversy that has flared at the outset of a national election campaign in which Democrats accuse Republicans of fostering a 'culture of corruption.' The controversy stems from a bribery investigation that already has resulted in two convictions. The FBI claims he accepted $100,000 in cash and that its agents later found $90,000 of it wrapped and stashed in a freezer in his home."

http://www.usatoday.com/news/washington/2006-06-09-jefferson-caucus_x.htm

[Edited on June 4, 2007 at 3:19 PM. Reason : .]

6/4/2007 3:10:26 PM

I fail to see how this is on the same page as the Foley scandal.

By all accounts this guy was buried by the Dems since day 1. The only big thing was the whole Congress wanted to be placed above the Law. Which is of course bullshit.

6/4/2007 3:11:18 PM

^ I wasn't even comparing the scandals--I was simply comparing the responses to the scandals. But that's not the point of the thread--I made no mention of Foley in the initial post. Back on the Jefferson topic, please.

6/4/2007 3:23:59 PM

^^^ Did you even read that article?

Quote :

"House Democratic leaders are determined to sanction Rep. William Jefferson, scandal-scarred but unindicted, despite a blunt reminder from the Congressional Black Caucus that he is entitled to a "presumption of innocence.""

Is what you should have quoted. Presumption of innocence is a core tenet of our legal system.

From everything i've seen, this guy is probably guilty as sin, but legally, he's entitled to a presumption of innocence, and the black caucus is worried how it looks to black voters to treat him as guilty, and they are claiming it's unprecedented to do this.

[Edited on June 4, 2007 at 3:28 PM. Reason : ]

6/4/2007 3:28:04 PM

WHAT'S THE TOPIC? You've supplied no topic to actually talk about beside the fact that this happened. and if you had been paying attention you would have known pretty much all that they know now about this case a year ago (aside from the indictment)

6/4/2007 3:28:13 PM

^ I think he just wants to bash the black caucus.

6/4/2007 3:28:38 PM

^^ and ^

6/4/2007 3:34:52 PM

so all you've done so far in this thread is copy/paste stories, troll and post rolly eyes. bravo.

6/4/2007 3:58:03 PM

in all fairness sarijoul...if you dont think this is a worthy topic to discuss, nobody is making you post in this thread

6/4/2007 3:58:38 PM

i really would like to know what this "self-evident" topic is that we're supposed to discuss, because apparently no one else has figured it out either.

6/4/2007 4:02:12 PM

its a political scandal...political threads usually go in soap box...i've seen a helluva lot less relevant threads go many pages in TSB

6/4/2007 4:04:51 PM

give hooksaw a while to respond, he's busy backpedaling.

6/4/2007 4:07:57 PM

Quote :

"But many here seem to think that only Republicans can be evil or criminal--and the multiple Foley threads were evidence of that."

I really wish you stupid wingnuts would stop using this waste of electrons as 25% of your posting content. Get over it. The republicans up until the last election were the dominate party. So naturally, if all politicians are evil, then republicans are going to get condemned more often, just based on the statistics.

The college educated here aren't so blind and retarded to think their party is free and clear of acts like this. So stop wasting our time being stirring up controversy where there is none to be stirred. It's lame, and disgusting, and unworthy of this section.

In short, grow up.

6/4/2007 4:21:27 PM

CULTURE


OF


CORRUPTION!!!!!!!

6/4/2007 4:27:04 PM

WE NEED TO MAKE THIS STORY DISAPPEAR QUICK

6/4/2007 4:35:02 PM

^I dont get it man, you seem like you would be a reasonable person in real life, so I dont understand how you can support the neocons and the bullshit that is just spewing out of their contingency.

They would probably have you brought up on charges of supporting terrorism for buying weed that would have been allegedly trafficked by al qaeda if they saw some of those pictures in your gallery.
and you know most of the rappers you like probably hate bush too.
Just shit like that, I dont get it?

[Edited on June 4, 2007 at 4:53 PM. Reason : n]

6/4/2007 4:49:36 PM

Quote :

" so I dont understand how you can support the neocons and the bullshit that is just spewing out of their contingency. "

you're right you dont understand, cause i dont support the bullshit you're talking about...just because i point out how fucking stupid the democrats are doesnt mean im a fucking stupid republican

Quote :

"They would probably have you brought up on charges of supporting terrorism for buying weed that would have been allegedly trafficked by al qaeda if they saw some of those pictures in your gallery."

probably not...maybe i'm not the paranoid alarmist that some are...charging me for supporting terrorism for pictures of weed in my photo gallery seems like the ultimate unrealistic doomsday rights infringement that i dont see happening

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"and you know most of the rappers you like probably hate bush too"

yep...just like they hated clinton...they usually dont like white politicians in general

6/4/2007 4:54:22 PM

Which rapper hated Clinton?

6/4/2007 4:57:45 PM

Quote :

"The reaction heightened a controversy that has flared at the outset of a national election campaign in which Democrats accuse Republicans of fostering a 'culture of corruption.'"

^^^ And you should stop using the word "neocon" until you figure out what it actually means--but I know many of you love it so. Since so many of you have trouble with this, I'll help you out: UNLESS YOU ARE IN FAVOR OF POLITICAL, ECONOMIC, AND SOCIAL CONSERVATISM, YOU ARE NOT A NEOCON!

And some of you are being so fucking retarded here that I'm not even going to respond to your stupid shit.

PS: I'm not a neocon or a Republican--so fuck off.

[Edited on June 4, 2007 at 5:08 PM. Reason : .]

6/4/2007 5:02:59 PM

Quote :

"Which rapper hated Clinton?"

Goodie Mob, Outkast, 2Pac...basically every rapper who made music while Clinton was in office

if this comes as a shock to you...

6/4/2007 5:05:52 PM

^ And Sister Souljah.

6/4/2007 5:07:13 PM

only a fucking idiot would think rappers would give a shit about a corrupt old white man's political party lol

YEAH, AND THE TERRORISTS WILL BE NICE ONCE BUSH IS OUT OF OFFICE IN JAN. 09' lol

6/4/2007 5:16:19 PM

^ Yeah, and what was it again that Clinton did to make the terrorists attack the WTC in 1993?

6/4/2007 5:21:15 PM

I guess the United States as a whole wasn't living under Islamic Law

6/4/2007 5:26:10 PM

if you cant bedazzle them with your brilliance, bedazzle them with your bullshit

6/4/2007 5:32:34 PM

Quote :

"i really would like to know what this "self-evident" topic is that we're supposed to discuss, because apparently no one else has figured it out either."

it's a relevent political topic. there isn't really all that much to debate about it, but it is certainly noteworthy. since you seemingly by your own admission have nothing more to add, you are more than welcome to, you know, not click on the thread, much less hit the "post reply" button.

6/4/2007 5:32:53 PM

(Snicker.)

6/4/2007 5:46:07 PM

Quote :

"the guy fucked up and deserves to be indicted."

6/4/2007 5:53:49 PM

really, who didn't see this coming.

6/4/2007 6:38:24 PM

Nail that douchebag to the wall.

6/4/2007 6:41:02 PM

Well, it looks as if the Dems' diversion of the firings of those federal prosecutors didn't grasp the news long enough to keep this one under wraps.

Hopefully, Congressional Democrats will deny John Boehner's request that this be investigated, resulting in him keeping his seat. I'm sure that'll help them with that approval rating problem they are having (you know, the one LOWER than the President's). I'm sure it'll also help them with the elections in '08.

Go DEMS!!!1

6/4/2007 8:47:43 PM

that's what I call cold cash

6/4/2007 8:56:24 PM

Quote :

"Brett Pfeffer, a former congressional aide, admitted soliciting bribes on Jefferson's behalf and was sentenced to eight years in prison. Another Jefferson associate, Louisville, Ky., telecommunications executive Vernon Jackson, pleaded guilty to paying between $400,000 and $1 million in bribes to Jefferson in exchange for his assistance securing business deals in Nigeria and other African nations. Jackson was sentenced to more than seven years in prison. Court records indicate Jefferson was videotaped taking a $100,000 cash bribe from an FBI informant. Most of that money later turned up in the freezer in Jefferson's home."

Isn't this just an example of Bush continuing to kick the poor victims of New Orleans by taking away their favorite congressman? After all, they re-elected him knowing he was awaiting indictment...The people spoke and wanted Jefferson back representing them.

Why can't we let a black man be a leader in this country?

6/5/2007 12:14:57 AM

^^ Yeah, some are calling it "freezer burn," too.

I just want to point out that I think it's wrong to brand a whole party--Democrat, Republican, or others--by one or a handful of scandals. And I believe that the Democrats have used the recent Republican scandals for political gain--the Republicans have done so in the past, too. But two wrongs don't make a right.

The worst part of this, though, is the group of Democrats who shamefully defended Jefferson--who is a crook, make no mistake about it--despite overwhelming evidence against him. But don't forget this scandal's connection to the politics of Nigeria and other African countries:

Quote :

"The impact of the case has stretched across continents and even roiled presidential politics in Nigeria. According to court records, Jefferson told associates he needed cash to pay bribes to the country's vice president, Atiku Abubakar. Abubakar denied the allegations, which figured prominently in that country's presidential elections in April. He ran for the presidency and finished third. In Lagos, Nigeria, Abubakar spokesman Garba Shehu said the former vice president 'has always denied wrongdoing in the matter.'"

http://www.forbes.com/feeds/ap/2007/06/04/ap3787108.html

^ PS: Yeah, I forgot that this is the same guy who used the National Guard to secure personal belongings from his house while people were waiting to be rescued--gg:

Quote :

"Amid the chaos and confusion that engulfed New Orleans after Hurricane Katrina struck, a congressman used National Guard troops to check on his property and rescue his personal belongings -- even while New Orleans residents were trying to get rescued from rooftops, ABC News has learned. On Sept. 2 -- five days after Katrina hit the Gulf Coast -- Rep. William Jefferson, D-La., who represents New Orleans and is a senior member of the powerful Ways and Means Committee, was allowed through the military blockades set up around the city to reach the Superdome, where thousands of evacuees had been taken."

http://www.abcnews.go.com/US/HurricaneKatrina/story?id=1123495&ROS=true

Un-fucking-believable.

[Edited on June 5, 2007 at 12:24 AM. Reason : .]

6/5/2007 12:17:50 AM