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jtreehorn
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They say he's a potential first round draft pick.

6/6/2007 6:38:10 PM

drunknloaded
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links/pics worthless without

6/6/2007 6:40:54 PM

ncWOLFsu
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he used to be a potential #1/top-5 draft pick before his stock plummeted

combination of poor play/lack of games in may/personal situations led to the drop

the good thing about the MLB though is that there aren't set price groupings for each pick like in NFL and NBA. with a good agent, brackman could theoretically get picked 30 and ink a contract worth many millions more than the 10th pick. even with the falling stock andrew ought to get a good contract with the team that picks him up, and none of the the things that made his stock fall are lingering issues that would impede progress in the majors.

i don't follow baseball all that much, so by no means to i claim to be an expert or know a lot about it, but i think we've got a much better chance of brackman blowing up and making it big in the majors than we did with joey devine.

good luck to him. i hope he ends up with a good team (and if not, then i hope he goes to the orioles ) and a good contract.


and here is a direct link to the article:
http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/2007/writers/jon_heyman/06/06/boras.draft/index.html

6/6/2007 6:46:51 PM

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he should have played basketball

6/7/2007 12:34:03 PM

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I hope the Braves get him at #14 or at #32 in the supplemental part of the 1st round.

6/7/2007 12:47:37 PM

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^right now id say 14 is too high for him.....but if he were there at 32, id be pissed if we passed on him

6/7/2007 1:32:56 PM

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i dont see any mention of him in that article

6/7/2007 1:34:16 PM

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NC State pitchers haven't done too well for the Braves

6/7/2007 1:38:43 PM

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Here they have him going in the 2nd to the Red Sox.


http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/2007/baseball/mlb/06/06/baseball.prospectus/index.html

6/7/2007 1:50:42 PM

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" 55. Boston Red Sox

Another team with a big checkbook, the Red Sox are hoping to find a first-round equivalent late in the supplemental round, and could be the team to take a shot at Andrew Brackman. A 6-foot-11 right-hander who has touched 99 mph, Brackman hasn't pitched since early May, after coming down with what has officially been termed as arm soreness; the rumor mill has stories involving everything from his needing Tommy John surgery to all those missed games being orchestrated by Boras (who else?) in order to drop him to a team that can afford him... like the Red Sox.

Pick: Andrew Brackman, RHP, North Carolina State"


seems way too low though. guess we'll see soon enough

[Edited on June 7, 2007 at 3:23 PM. Reason : .]

6/7/2007 3:22:44 PM

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If Boras sat him out intentionally to drop him to a different team, I would have to question Brackman's character as it he would not be showing a commitment to his team. However, I don't believe he would sit out without actually being hurt.

6/7/2007 3:32:45 PM

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Well he sqeaked into the 1st round after all.

6/7/2007 5:01:07 PM

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fuck.........damn yankees

6/7/2007 5:09:10 PM

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good thing the yanks drafted him, only thing that means is that he won't ever play for them.

6/7/2007 5:13:15 PM

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I hope he does well for them.....besides maybe the Bo Sox, the Yankees are the most publicized team in the world, and if he does well, could give some great press to NC State.

6/7/2007 6:53:45 PM

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Well the old Yankees definitely didn't have a farm system but lately the Yankees are using their farm system to develop talent. Chien-Ming Wang and Hughes both came through the Yankees organization, as did Robinson Cano. I hate it for him because I can never cheer for him now, lets just hope he doesn't become another Joey Devine.

6/7/2007 10:13:08 PM

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good luck to b-rack...i am kinda excited to see him go to the yankees even though i personally dont like them

6/8/2007 12:11:19 AM

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Maybe in 20 years he'll be old enough to crack the Yankees starting rotation.

6/8/2007 1:36:34 AM

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should have stuck to basketball. From what I understand, his agent is a jack ass and will hurt him salary, etc. wise.

6/8/2007 11:55:07 AM

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he would've gone nowhere in the pros with basketball

6/8/2007 11:55:51 AM

uNC SUcks
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he may go nowhere now too.

6/8/2007 12:00:06 PM

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yeah, but at least he got drafted.

and in the first round.

He has at the least a minor league career ahead of him, and doesn't have to go to Europe like he would have in basketball.

6/8/2007 12:42:23 PM

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"From what I understand, his agent is a jack ass and will hurt him salary, etc. wise.
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Is that a joke? Yeah, Boras guys usually get killed salary wise. I mean Barry Zito is so underpaid.

6/8/2007 12:47:48 PM

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"he may go nowhere now too."


Yeah, what on earth are you talking about? Where do you get this idea from?

6/8/2007 12:55:42 PM

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"Is that a joke? Yeah, Boras guys usually get killed salary wise. I mean Barry Zito is so underpaid."


Nope, just what I've been reading in a few sports articles. That's why I said, "from what I understand"

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"Yeah, what on earth are you talking about? Where do you get this idea from?"


It's never a guarantee. He could be stuck in the minors for a while and/or get ruined by the Yankees. He could turn out to be awesome. Same thing could have happened in the NBA as well.

6/8/2007 4:29:22 PM

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Yeah, that's true -- nothing is ever guaranteed, but he's gonna sign a huge contract. That's one guarantee that comes with working with Scott Boras, and he always had a better shot at making MLB than the NBA.

I gotta say, I like his chances. As for the Yankees "ruining him"...no more so than anything team would. As long as he can get back to being healthy, there won't be any ruining.

Anyway, that's my opinion.

6/8/2007 5:36:27 PM

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there were actually a lot of NBA scouts that were pretty high on brackman after his freshmen season actually...

however, baseball is where the money is. Only 30 people a year get a guaranteed NBA salary, why not take the sure thing and stick to baseball?

Also a sport with better longevity and a better support system if you dont pan out immediately or ever

6/8/2007 7:43:07 PM

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i can see the argument for better longevity in baseball, but brackman is a pitcher. i think for that reason that he'd have more longevity in basketball than in baseball. but i agree with you on the contractual issues. baseball, is definitely more of a sure thing when it comes to the paychecks.

6/8/2007 9:17:43 PM

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Pitchers typically have better longevity than position players.....

6/8/2007 9:27:28 PM

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^^ yes pitchers suffer numerous injuries throughout their career... but name another position in any of the 3 major sports that has better longevity than a baseball pitcher? Look how many 40+ starting pitchers there are out there still playing at a high level... and many relievers in their upper 30s still hanging onto jobs... pitching has a lot to do with location, control, and knowledge of the game/hitters tendecies... enough so that even if your skillset declines you can offset it. Hell, plenty of pitchers have had better seasons late in their careers than they did early and their primes are usually ~28-33.... guys like John smoltz and randy johnson went from struggling starters to dominant starters relatively late in their careers... even habitually injured guys like Kerry Wood keep collecting paychecks for over a decade

football: kickers obviously but they dont make a lot of money and they arent REALLY football players.... elite and solid QB's usually can last a long time particularly if they are willing to move into backup roles or bounce from team to team frequently(jeff garcia and brad johnson types)

basketball: PG's are typically the only position people can play at a high level past ~33-34 (rare exceptions)... washed up centers can hang onto roster spots for awhile like robert parrish, mutombo, etc but these guys are usually making the league minumum or damn close to it...

[Edited on June 8, 2007 at 9:48 PM. Reason : a]

6/8/2007 9:48:02 PM

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good points

this is why i probably shouldn't post about baseball

6/8/2007 11:41:33 PM

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"lets just hope he doesn't become another Joey Devine."


what happened to joey devine? I know he didn't do too hot coming up, but it looks like he only played in a few games last year, and no word about him playing this year.

6/11/2007 3:18:28 AM

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^He's in AA Mississippi right now and has great numbers. He hurt is back last year but is doing a lot better and is a lot more consistent, which was his big problem anyway

6/11/2007 7:26:22 AM

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felt bad for devine after his games with the braves


he got blowed up

[Edited on June 11, 2007 at 8:13 AM. Reason : http://sports.espn.go.com/mlb/recap?gameId=251009118]

6/11/2007 8:11:07 AM

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I'm excited by the Yankees draft of Brackman!

Plus its funny to see you Yankee haters get conflicted

6/11/2007 1:40:39 PM

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"its funny to see you Yankee haters get conflicted"

6/11/2007 1:42:54 PM

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WHO CARES...BASEBALL SUCKS

6/11/2007 1:51:08 PM

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^^it's not nearly as bad as if he chose to go to the yanks....I chalk it up to bad luck for him. I automatically despise any player that does that.

[Edited on June 11, 2007 at 1:57 PM. Reason : .]

6/11/2007 1:56:39 PM

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