it's a 2001 raptor

the thing is he said he doesnt have the certificate or receipt when u buy it. says he's second owner. he said he would provide a bill of sale.

how do i check if the bike doesnt have any leins on it? also stolen etc etc. sounds kinda sketch to me!



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6/15/2007 10:52:30 AM

get the serial, and call the police, get them to run it

6/15/2007 10:54:07 AM

thanks! what a/b checkin for leins.

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6/15/2007 10:55:51 AM

Quote :

"I love the soft ground here in North Carolina and I like to go off-roading. Do I need to register my ATV? ATVs are usually made for off-road use. Even if you were to change the tires, it still would not be safe enough to use on the roads. Because they don't meet DOT safety standards, you cannot drive them on the road. Therefore, you do not need to register and title your ATV."

Quote :

" Do I need to register this type of vehicle? Within North Carolina there are instances of vehicles that do not have to be registered, either for highway safety reasons or in some cases the vehicle may not even be registered with the DMV. ATVs Mobile Homes Mopeds Motorcycles Trailers Water Craft ATVs: return to top All Terrain Vehicles (ATV) are usually manufactured for off road use. The vehicles generally do not meet the normal DOT safety standards. The manufacturers state that even if conforming tires were place on the motorcycle, that the suspensions and other design features are meant for low-pressure tires, so placing different tires on the vehicle does not allow it to meet safety standards. A title or license cannot be issued unless an inspector's report is received confirming that the vehicle is equipped for road use and meets all DOT safety standards. "

http://www.ncdot.org/dmv/vehicle_services/registrationtitling/vehiclesNeedToRegister.html#Register%20ATVs

[Edited on June 15, 2007 at 11:00 AM. Reason : link]

6/15/2007 10:57:51 AM

i would check with the police to see if it is stolen, then get a bill of sale, and you have your ass covered

6/15/2007 11:01:36 AM

so dont bother checking for leins?? and bill of sale if i had from him would be fine to sell it with?

thanks !

btw here's a pict of the raptor.



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6/15/2007 11:03:34 AM

if he sells the property, he is still expected to pay off the lien even if it is for less than what he owes, so once he sells it, it is your property, the bank cannot reposess it, they just go after hiim for the money, of course there are a very few circumstances such as if he gives the property to someone, and continues to use it, but usually not, its not the same as vehicles, or other things that are titled

the only thing you have to worry about is if it is stolen property, so just get the vin and call the police and get them to run it, they may give you some bullshit about going to the dmv

[Edited on June 15, 2007 at 11:08 AM. Reason : balh]

6/15/2007 11:06:29 AM

nice. im guessing i have to get the bill of sale notorized? use the dmv bill of sale im guessing?

6/15/2007 11:14:02 AM

also what is this thing worth? here's all that is done to it:

'Its an 01, adult owned and ridden, low hours meticulously taken care of , Yamaha blue, shaved front fenders, new rear grab bar, blingstar nerf bars, factory 909 handlebars, dynojet stage 2 jet kit, white brothers mx4 full exhaust, armadillo full skid plates, custom blue frame…I think that’s all. Great fourwheeler never had any problems with it.'

6/15/2007 11:16:40 AM

I didn't get my bill of sale notorized, but I felt pretty confident that the guy was straight up. Do check the vin with the cops before you buy it though. You definately don't want to get stuck holding stolen property and this region has a huge number of ATV thefts.

6/15/2007 11:18:40 AM

how do you plan on moving that thing around? get another truck?

When I bought my rr I first had a bill of sale that I got notorized, but that was because we were waiting on the title from his bank after he paid of his loan with the money I gave him for it.

[Edited on June 15, 2007 at 11:31 AM. Reason : .]

6/15/2007 11:29:18 AM

69 has given you the main thing... have the numbers run for it being stolen. other than that, it's up to you whether or not you have the bill of sale notarized. it's not a neccessity.

you don't get a title for an atv in nc, you get a certificate of origin. i'm assuming he's lost that. a bill of sale is an acceptable replacement, and a common way of transferring atv, pwc, and boat ownership.

6/15/2007 12:16:29 PM

I have an '01 raptor with the bottom end (transmission most importantly) out of the newer (03 or 04?) one that didn't have problems that I am interested in selling, PM me if interested.[b]

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6/15/2007 12:54:46 PM

didn't 01 raptors have problems w/ 2nd gear? most were fixed under recall but check it out. I would pay no more than $2000 for an 01

6/15/2007 1:00:28 PM

yea, i believe that is correct.. i was told on mine that the owner and his son were rebuilding the top end and never could get it to start after they put it back together so i figured he bent a vale or fucked up the cam timing or something... turns out the whole bottom end was fucking trashed because of the waterpump locking up and pieces of gears going everywhere, so i just said f it and bought the whole bottom end off a newer model so there wouldn't be anything to worry about

and it has aftermarket exhaust and jetkit, runs good.. high compression piston, stage II cam, etc.

6/15/2007 1:02:35 PM

how hard is an atv engine swap?

6/15/2007 1:02:38 PM

easy as fuck.. remove exhaust, couple of wires to ignition sys and the motor mounts, unhook clutch/throttle cables and pretty much pick the bitch up out of the frame

6/15/2007 1:06:08 PM

^^LMAO hahahaha

[Edited on June 15, 2007 at 1:06 PM. Reason : ^]

[Edited on June 15, 2007 at 1:07 PM. Reason : 250R FTW]

6/15/2007 1:06:23 PM

yeah i thought so.

6/15/2007 1:08:01 PM

so how much is this one worth?

6/15/2007 1:21:25 PM

you are not getting an atv

6/15/2007 1:21:56 PM

i'd check cycletrader and see what they are going for

6/15/2007 1:34:21 PM

they go from 3-4k on cycletrader

is there much of a market around here for them?

6/15/2007 1:39:57 PM

i know i'd sell you mine for less than that

6/15/2007 1:42:32 PM

The trader pubs seem to attract sellers who are looking for top dollar. I don't know how many of those actually "sell" versus how many just sit out there until the ad expires.

6/15/2007 1:44:18 PM

when you sell a house, you sign a lien affidavit saying there's no claims against you (this is signed in front of a notary). on your bill of sale, just have him sign something saying there's no claims of lien against it and if there are, he is responsible for paying them off and you assume to responsibility of any debt he has.

6/15/2007 1:47:49 PM

the sport ATV market around here doesn't typically support top dollar. there is NO WAY that an 01 raptor is worth anywhere near 3-4K. I saw the ad on craigslist you're talking about, and he is dreaming @ $4000. You'll never be able to get that back out of it, especially w/ cut fenders. Look at comparable models also. If you're looking for the fastest in a straight line, look at the bom ds650, they are cheap. It's bigger and heavier, but its faster/quicker and more stable at high speed.

I like 400ex's and 450r's. They aren't quite as fast, but are dead reliable. An 01 400ex can be had for 1800-2000, and a 450r maybe $750 more.

Also, sport ATV's are worth more right now than they are the rest of year, kinda like a jet ski.

Bottom line, that Raptor is a $2500 ATV. I'd pay $4000 for an 04 / 05

6/15/2007 2:33:49 PM

im not getting the atv to keep it. im getting it to resell it. he wants my bike.. if it's only 2500 dolla fugg it. i found a new motor for my bike yest for 850 shipped.

6/15/2007 2:54:14 PM

ahhh if you're trading to resell definately pass on that one. utility ATV's for for much better money around here

6/15/2007 3:16:19 PM

yeah im gonna tell him if he has such a hard on for my bike he can sell his atv at a loss and give me what i was askin wahaha.

woulda been fun running from the cary cops on it while drunk on the preston golf courses tho

6/15/2007 3:41:20 PM

or, tell him trade+cash. sounds like a pretty fair trade to me though, i think you'd be hard pressed to sell your bike for much more than 2500 needing a motor/trans.

[Edited on June 15, 2007 at 3:48 PM. Reason : .]

6/15/2007 3:47:20 PM

obligatory drinking and driving is bad.

6/15/2007 3:49:27 PM