Ummm, Im sorry Wilbon, but no, she isn't. Not even close. Not only does America not care about tennis, we don't really care about women athletes. Please don't claim that Venus is one of the top 10, male or female athletes in the last 10 years.

7/5/2007 2:25:15 AM

Tennis, we definitely DONT care about....dont hate on the Williams Sisters...because they rock at their sport, are multi-millionaires, go to celebrity parties, adn have the Teniss world at the beckon call-sounds like someone is a TAD bit jealous....

7/5/2007 2:38:13 AM

I'm not jealous at all. There are just about 20 other sport figures I would rank above her and her sister as top athletes in the last ten year. In Miami, I have been to many celeb parties. No need to bring that up cat. I am not from NC. I have actually lived a life. My parents most likely have more money than most people on here. But thats not the issue. Don't call me out on something you have no clue at all about.

7/5/2007 3:09:05 AM

hahahahahaha, this big baby just bragged about much money has mommy and daddy have



You can't make up toolboxery like this.

7/5/2007 3:42:43 AM

i dont know who to flame in this thread

7/5/2007 6:44:45 AM

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"My parents most likely have more money than most people on here. "

haha, more than a bunch of college kids? must be ballin

7/5/2007 6:45:54 AM

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"I have actually lived a life."

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"Age:23"

What in the hell are you talking about?

7/5/2007 8:23:07 AM

there are probably ten other tennis players i would rank right with her or above her in the past ten years (male and female)

7/5/2007 8:36:11 AM

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"i dont know who to flame in this thread"

7/5/2007 8:48:37 AM

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"In Miami, I have been to many celeb parties. No need to bring that up cat. I am not from NC. I have actually lived a life. My parents most likely have more money than most people on here. But thats not the issue. Don't call me out on something you have no clue at all about."

.... wtf, at all does that have to do with Venus Williams?

7/5/2007 9:05:01 AM

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"I'm not jealous at all. There are just about 20 other sport figures I would rank above her and her sister as top athletes in the last ten year. In Miami, I have been to many celeb parties. No need to bring that up cat. I am not from NC. I have actually lived a life. My parents most likely have more money than most people on here. But thats not the issue. Don't call me out on something you have no clue at all about."

ok people in the office came in to check on me because i was laughing so hard

7/5/2007 9:05:38 AM

that ugly broad can't be on any top 10 list. her sister obviously got what little bit of looks the family had.

7/5/2007 9:23:06 AM

who says "cat"? are you 70? maybe you have "lived a life"

7/5/2007 9:31:55 AM

A person on TWW bragging about going to a party in Miami is a person definitely secure with himself.

7/5/2007 9:37:41 AM

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"i dont know who to flame in this thread"

7/5/2007 9:43:15 AM

7/5/2007 11:58:34 AM

wow...i vote this queen to be immediatly removed from tww.....jesus dude

7/5/2007 12:08:13 PM

^^ lawl.

7/5/2007 12:38:10 PM

no, venus williams should not be on that list.... she's ok but overall hasn't done nearly as much as her much less ugly younger sister

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"hahahahahaha, this big baby just bragged about much money has mommy and daddy have You can't make up toolboxery like this."

ahahahah true true

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7/5/2007 12:45:12 PM

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"beckon call"

beck and call

7/5/2007 1:44:08 PM

jesus christ this thread reeks of faggotry. and the word "ballin"







[Edited on July 5, 2007 at 5:01 PM. Reason : yep ballin]

7/5/2007 5:00:36 PM

FUCK VENUS WILLIAMS AND HER WHOLE FUCKING BULLSHIT FAMILY

7/5/2007 5:04:09 PM

This guy needs to get over to UNC.

7/5/2007 5:11:04 PM

Laughable statement.... she's borderline for top 5 woman's tennis player over the last ten years.

7/5/2007 5:52:50 PM

^exactly. She does not belong on a top 10 list of the last decade... she's not even close.

Tiger
Bonds
Lance Armstrong
Clemens
Ladanian Tomlinson
Peyton Manning
Bret Favre
Roger Federer
Pete Sampras
Andre Agassi
A-Rod
etc. etc.

There are literally dozens of athletes well ahead of her in almost any sport you care to name.

7/5/2007 9:52:50 PM

LOL, L. Tomlison ova Venus...I love football - college and pro...and I think LT will be one of the greatest RB in history, but right now...Venus is a better/proven athlete than him. When looking at professional career over the past 10 years.

Not saying she should be top 10 in last 10, but she is ahead of LT...lets be real.


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7/5/2007 10:24:17 PM

If I can't Venus Williams, I can't Venus Williams. It is as simple as that. It ain't about that at all. It's easy to sum it up if you're just talking about Venus Williams. We're sitting here, and I'm supposed to be the franchise player, and we're talking about Venus Williams. I mean listen, we're sitting here talking about Venus Williams, not a game, not a game, not a game, but we're talking about Venus Williams. Not the game that I go out there and die for and play every game last it's my last but we're talking about Venus Williams man. How silly is that?
Now I know that I'm supposed to lead by example and all that but I'm not shoving that aside like it don't mean anything. I know it's important, I honestly do but we're talking about Venus Williams. We're talking about Venus Williams man. (laughter from the media crowd) We're talking about Venus Williams. We're talking about Venus Williams. We're not talking about the game. We're talking about Venus Williams. When you come to the arena, and you see me play, you've seen me play right, you've seen me give everything I've got, but we're talking about Venus Williams right now

7/5/2007 10:25:12 PM

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7/5/2007 10:50:42 PM

I see, so the fastest player ever to 100 TDs, the most player who has scored the most points in a season, the single season TD leader, and the best RB of his generation, and possibly the best player regardless of position in the last 10 years, is "less proven" than a woman who has 5 slam titles (she was dominant in 2000 and 2001, but has only been maybe top 5 since then)? Look, Venus is good, but she's not the best female tennis player of the last 10 years, let alone top 10 regardless of sport or gender.

Venus... psshhhhh, please.

7/6/2007 12:42:30 AM

Being the #1 overall player in the NFL>>>>>than any tennis star man or woman

Come on dude...and I like tennis.

7/6/2007 1:04:05 AM

I would have put Sampras in his prime against the best NFL player. He dominated so hardcore its almost unbelievable.

7/6/2007 1:40:21 AM

Here is my top 10 in the last 10yrs

Jordan
Elway
Marino
Barry Sanders
Sampras
Tiger
Bonds
Manning
Armstrong
Shaq

7/6/2007 1:44:56 AM

Federer is dominating more than Sampras ever did

oh and

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"i dont know who to flame in this thread"

7/6/2007 1:48:32 AM

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"Country Switzerland Residence Oberwil, Switzerland Date of birth August 8, 1981 (1981-08-08) (age 25) Place of birth Basel, Switzerland Height 1.85 m (6 ft 1 in) Weight 85 kg (187 lb) Turned Pro 1998 Plays Right; one-handed backhand Career Prize Money $31,237,103 Singles Career record: 513-130 Career titles: 48 Highest ranking: No. 1 (February 2, 2004) Grand Slam results Australian Open W (2004, 2006, 2007) French Open F (2006, 2007) Wimbledon W (2003, 2004, 2005, 2006) U.S. Open W (2004, 2005, 2006) Doubles Career record: 104-68 Career titles: 7 Highest ranking: No. 24 (June 9, 2003 "

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"Country United States Residence Los Angeles, California, USA Date of birth August 12, 1971 (1971-08-12) (age 35) Place of birth Washington, D.C., USA Height 6 ft 1 in (1.85 m) Weight 170 lb (77 kg) Turned Pro 1988 Retired 2002 Plays Right; One-handed backhand Career Prize Money $43,280,489 Singles Career record: 762 - 222 Career titles: 64 Highest ranking: No. 1 (12 April 1993) Grand Slam results Australian Open W (1994, 1997) French Open SF (1996) Wimbledon W (1993, 1994, 1995, 1997, 1998, 1999, 2000) U.S. Open W (1990, 1993, 1995, 1996, 2002) Doubles Career record: 64 - 70 Career titles: 2 Highest ranking: "

I'd have to argue with you there.

Sampras has:

More winnings
Higher win %
More titles
More grand slams



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7/6/2007 1:52:27 AM

Arab13, unless you've actually dated an African American girl-than your comments on Venus or Serena's physical nature has no standing because you have NO no actual experience to base it upon, just your own dumb ass ignorance!

7/6/2007 3:55:42 AM

^umm, what?

You know what, we should all just stay out of this, let royalflush and wolfood keep responding to each other, sit back and enjoy. I know I'd be entertained

7/6/2007 4:49:09 AM

Keep it jungle, B.

[Edited on July 6, 2007 at 5:46 AM. Reason : Miami is only nice for a few blocks, G.]

7/6/2007 5:45:37 AM

keep it jungle, fee




ver

7/6/2007 6:56:39 AM

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"I'd have to argue with you there. Sampras has: More winnings Higher win % More titles More grand slams"

Federer is only 25. Barring career-ending injuries, he will eventually crush Sampras in regards to total prize money, grand slam titles, and overall titles. Also, your math sucks...... Federer has the better winning percentage.

7/6/2007 7:18:49 AM

using career $ won is a bad metric when the ones being compared aren't contemporaries in the same time.


even a few years makes a difference

7/6/2007 7:29:55 AM

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"using career $ won is a bad metric"

bad at math = JCTarheel

in all seriousness, the two have totally different ways of approaching a match

i wish there was a way to go back in time and see sampras's serve and volley in its prime against federer's all-around game... even if we perhaps already saw it (perhaps) to a lesser extent every time he went up against agassi

7/6/2007 7:35:31 AM

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"using career $ won is a bad metric"

I completely agree but it was one of the metrics RoyalFlush used so I included it. Bitch at him if you have a problem with it.

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"bad at math = JCTarheel"

I'm right about career win percentage. Sorry bout it.

Also, see above.

7/6/2007 7:43:00 AM

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"Here is my top 10 in the last 10yrs Jordan Elway Marino Barry Sanders Sampras Tiger Bonds Manning Armstrong Shaq"

That's among the worst lists I have ever seen. Half of those players only played a couple of years in the 10 year window.

There is no way the first 5 should be on the list.

7/7/2007 1:15:32 AM

responding to the actually topic instead of all the side stuff, if you want to talk about top ten athletes ( just physical talent), then no she isn't, she is impressive, both her and Serena but not top 10 in the decade.

Now if you are talking about " sports people" ( physical talent, impact on the game on and off the court) a case could be made for her and her sister to be in the top ten maybe. I mean, people can't deny that she brought a lot of attention to women's tennis in the past decade to the media. She and here sister made tennis stars marketable to the public again, was one of the major advocates for women getting paid equally as men for their winnings ( which finally happened at Wimbledon this year) and shed the image to many minorities that tennis wasn't just something that rich white kids played. ( not ashamed to admit that how me and many of my friends saw it growing up and now follow it because i realized that it is an awesome sports that just didn't get the proper exposure) and has won her fair share of grand slams. Only minus i see currently that she and her sister are totally linked so you can't single either one of them out really.

I mean, LT is an awesome person, and an elite on the field, but you can't say that football would be less popular without him ( though he did help change fantasy football) and the same can be said for a couple others athletes out there that were great but their effects off the field or court weren't as pronouned. Heck, Ali and MJ, a beast of talent in their sports are more known globally for what they did out of the game ( Ali- political views, MJ- marketing) then what they did on the while playing.

7/7/2007 2:34:17 PM

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"Sampras has: More winnings Higher win % More titles More grand slams"

i guess when people say things like this everyone tends to believe them. but last time i checked the 79.7% winning percentage (of federer) is better than the 77.4% of sampras.

7/7/2007 3:16:50 PM

Haha, pwnt.

7/7/2007 3:48:20 PM